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Redrob 12-20-2011 09:12 PM

Fuck the thief, he didn't get enough time.......should have gotten 5 to 10 for grand larceny.

porno jew 12-20-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18642776)
1 case that was an exception doesn't equal what was being insinuated over and over

sorry i won you lose.

DamianJ 12-21-2011 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18643078)
gideongallery and damianj

thought I was on ignore :)

you're a funny guy!

gideongallery 12-21-2011 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18643123)
And even if it didn't cost them one penny...it was still STEALING. :)

explain this to get copyright infringement fit into your stealing box you have to stretch it to include "Taking away profit"

and now your saying even if it didn't take away as single penny it would still be stealing.

if i steal something you don't have it anymore
a copy doesn't take anything, if i copy your shit you still have your shit.

lucas131 12-21-2011 04:17 AM

send him to guantanamo

scarlettcontent 12-21-2011 05:36 AM

crazy sentence

DamianJ 12-21-2011 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 18643984)
crazy sentence

So is this:

The wallpaper cheese tickled the green table until the jelly tree danced over the money

woj 12-21-2011 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18643901)
explain this to get copyright infringement fit into your stealing box you have to stretch it to include "Taking away profit"

and now your saying even if it didn't take away as single penny it would still be stealing.

if i steal something you don't have it anymore
a copy doesn't take anything, if i copy your shit you still have your shit.

Imagine there is a parking lot in downtown Chicago... the parking there costs $10/hr, there are 10 floors there, and 1000s of spaces, it's never full, in fact it's never even half full...

you park there and few hours later drive out without paying, did you "steal" anything in that case? Do you find anything wrong with not paying for this parking? After all, by using your logic you:
a. didn't "steal" anything, right?
b. didn't take anyone's profit, right?
c. didn't harm the owner in anyway? one could even argue that you even helped him? you parking there for free made the parking lot appear more busy, and so it appeared safer to park there, generating more business for the parking owner?

bronco67 12-21-2011 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18643901)
explain this to get copyright infringement fit into your stealing box you have to stretch it to include "Taking away profit"

and now your saying even if it didn't take away as single penny it would still be stealing.

if i steal something you don't have it anymore
a copy doesn't take anything, if i copy your shit you still have your shit.

You really like to twist shit around to your advantage. Get this straight bonebrain -- when you pay for a CD, DVD, Book, or whatever -- you are paying for the ability to put it into your stinking eye/ear holes, so it goes into your simple brain to get enjoyment from it. Having a physical version is just a bonus so that you can further enjoy it in the future. Just because you have a copy of it, doesn't mean that you can now be a distributor of that person't work, whether to make income from it, or just let masses of non-payers see it for free.

Many of those freeloaders are potential paying customers, and don't give us the "they wouldn't have bought it anyway" argument. I can honestly say that when I've downloaded an album or movie(in the past), I WAS going to buy it -- but I took the cheap route. My philosophy has changed in the last several years, because I realize someone has to pay the people that make the shit I like to consume.

When you pay to see a movie in the theater, do you get a print of the movie to take home, and redsitribute for whatever fucked up reason you may have to do that?

Please show us anything that you ever created, that is 100% yours and came from your mind. Anything.

BlackCrayon 12-21-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18643362)
I'm just thinking..that every time I turn around they are throwing the book at everybody for every damn thing. lol

I rarely see a judge use any discretion in the cases I see on the news...well, except when they want to present the story as a "shocking" case of an inept Judge.

Plus they change the damn definitions of stuff too. When they are arresting 21 year old guys for having sex with their 16 year old girlfriends and calling it the same thing as a guy raping a baby, it gets hard to differentiate.

Anyway...I think the guy got what was coming to him in this case. And probably had a good lawyer to get off as light as he did. He outright STOLE that film and tried to damage the studio by releasing it for free.

I am not talking about some 20 something year old guy fucking teenage girls but middle aged men and young boys but regardless the main problem with these kinds of cases is the prosecution making deals if they plead guilty, resulting in them serving much less time than they should but yes like others have said it really has nothing to do with this case but its just a sad reality that has bothered me for a lifetime that property crimes often seem to carry a harsher sentence than crimes against people. and like i said in an earlier post, if the guy actually physically stole it or hacked into whatever and stole it, then sure the punishment seems reasonable. however if he just downloaded it from somwhere else and then uploaded, its retarded and just another example of the justice system working only for those with money.

woj 12-21-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18644742)
I am not talking about some 20 something year old guy fucking teenage girls but middle aged men and young boys but regardless the main problem with these kinds of cases is the prosecution making deals if they plead guilty, resulting in them serving much less time than they should but yes like others have said it really has nothing to do with this case but its just a sad reality that has bothered me for a lifetime that property crimes often seem to carry a harsher sentence than crimes against people. and like i said in an earlier post, if the guy actually physically stole it or hacked into whatever and stole it, then sure the punishment seems reasonable. however if he just downloaded it from somwhere else and then uploaded, its retarded and just another example of the justice system working only for those with money.

Imagine a hypothetical situation in no way connected to piracy... someone knowingly causes millions $$ in damage, lets say for example vandalizes some property which will take millions to repair, what should a fair punishment be?

BlackCrayon 12-21-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 18644785)
Imagine a hypothetical situation in no way connected to piracy... someone knowingly causes millions $$ in damage, lets say for example vandalizes some property which will take millions to repair, what should a fair punishment be?

I would imagine the punishment should be similar to that of a corporation that destroys the enviroment and makes people sick..oh thats right they don't get punished and if they ever do, its only monetarily.

woj 12-21-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18644794)
I would imagine the punishment should be similar to that of a corporation that destroys the enviroment and makes people sick..oh thats right they don't get punished and if they ever do, its only monetarily.

well, but answer the question, what happens to corporations has nothing to do with the question at hand... imagine you are a judge, some idiot vandalizes 100s of homes in your neighborhood causing millions in damages, what would you do with him? set him free with no punishment because corporations get away with worse crimes?

BlackCrayon 12-21-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 18644808)
well, but answer the question, what happens to corporations has nothing to do with the question at hand... imagine you are a judge, some idiot vandalizes 100s of homes in your neighborhood causing millions in damages, what would you do with him? set him free with no punishment because corporations get away with worse crimes?

Obviously not but it also depends on what kind of methods used to cause the damage. Arson should carry a much harsher penalty than just smashing/breaking a bunch of stuff. my point is the justice system doesn't work for the average person. its become a farce and is just about protecting the assets and rights of those with the most money. money=justice, otherwise good luck. when will people start to admit the justice system provides little of any justice?

HomerSimpson 12-21-2011 03:29 PM

only 1 year... ?

gideongallery 12-21-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 18644142)
Imagine there is a parking lot in downtown Chicago... the parking there costs $10/hr, there are 10 floors there, and 1000s of spaces, it's never full, in fact it's never even half full...

you park there and few hours later drive out without paying, did you "steal" anything in that case? Do you find anything wrong with not paying for this parking? After all, by using your logic you:
a. didn't "steal" anything, right?
b. didn't take anyone's profit, right?
c. didn't harm the owner in anyway? one could even argue that you even helped him? you parking there for free made the parking lot appear more busy, and so it appeared safer to park there, generating more business for the parking owner?

is it stealing no

is it fraud absolutely because your claiming you have a right to park there even though you do not

like i have repeatedly said copyright infringement is fraud not theft.

the parking lot example is a right of access issue

gideongallery 12-21-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18644179)
You really like to twist shit around to your advantage. Get this straight bonebrain -- when you pay for a CD, DVD, Book, or whatever -- you are paying for the ability to put it into your stinking eye/ear holes, so it goes into your simple brain to get enjoyment from it. Having a physical version is just a bonus so that you can further enjoy it in the future. Just because you have a copy of it, doesn't mean that you can now be a distributor of that person't work, whether to make income from it, or just let masses of non-payers see it for free.

Exactly i am not buying the content i am buying the right to listen to it.

IT doesn't matter if that right to listen is the cd i originally got when i purchased that right

a copy i made on my own computer, or torrented mp3

I paid for the right to listen to that music period not for the content you gave me.


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Many of those freeloaders are potential paying customers, and don't give us the "they wouldn't have bought it anyway" argument. I can honestly say that when I've downloaded an album or movie(in the past), I WAS going to buy it -- but I took the cheap route. My philosophy has changed in the last several years, because I realize someone has to pay the people that make the shit I like to consume.

When you pay to see a movie in the theater, do you get a print of the movie to take home, and redsitribute for whatever fucked up reason you may have to do that?
did i ever say "i wouldn't have bought it anyway"

that argument was never made ever

this was an example of a version that was NEVER SOLD AT ALL

There was no where you could buy the WORKPRINT.

there was no sale lost at all because it was never for sale in that form.

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Please show us anything that you ever created, that is 100% yours and came from your mind. Anything.
Stan lee admitted that he based the x-men the real world struggle of African Americans attempt to get equality

professor x was martin Luther king Jr

and
magneto was Malcolm X

so the movie your talking about was not 100% created from the mind of the creator.

so your asking for something that is impossible to produce

no one is ever going to create something that came 100% from your mind because your mind derives everything from what it observes around it.

Robbie 12-21-2011 04:31 PM

gideongallery, you are the most uncreative and useless person I've ever encountered. And you show the kind of person you are each and every time you post on GFY

Congratulations. Your parents should have raised you better.

gideongallery 12-21-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18645322)
gideongallery, you are the most uncreative and useless person I've ever encountered. And you show the kind of person you are each and every time you post on GFY

Congratulations. Your parents should have raised you better.

actions speak louder then words

if you truly believed that statement you would have accepted my offer to show everyone here the solution to the piracy problem


you wouldn't have been able to use, but if my shit didn't work that would matter because you would use it anyway.

Robbie 12-21-2011 05:16 PM

Yes gideongallery actions DO speak louder than words.

I DO things and make money in this industry. You do nothing and talk in endless circles.

I just sit back and watch you show your true colors.

I don't even know why you bother posting here. There is not even one serious player in the business on GFY who has any respect for you or thinks you are "right".

Your endless twisting and turning of words while you try to spin things is a joke.

You've had some funny moments for sure though. Like when you have tried to tell actual lawyers on here about the "law".

Dude...you've made a complete ass of yourself on here over and over and over. Just leave.
Go to the pirate forums where you belong with the other freeloaders who do nothing.

blackmonsters 12-21-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18645339)
actions speak louder then words

if you truly believed that statement you would have accepted my offer to show everyone here the solution to the piracy problem


you wouldn't have been able to use, but if my shit didn't work that would matter because you would use it anyway.

The difference between you and most people here is that in every challenge we all
will eventually "beat them or join them"; but only you will believe them.

:1orglaugh


EDIT : 100 days in jail for hardheadness.

gideongallery 12-21-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18645406)
Yes gideongallery actions DO speak louder than words.

I DO things and make money in this industry. You do nothing and talk in endless circles.

I just sit back and watch you show your true colors.

I don't even know why you bother posting here. There is not even one serious player in the business on GFY who has any respect for you or thinks you are "right".

Your endless twisting and turning of words while you try to spin things is a joke.

You've had some funny moments for sure though. Like when you have tried to tell actual lawyers on here about the "law".

Dude...you've made a complete ass of yourself on here over and over and over. Just leave.
Go to the pirate forums where you belong with the other freeloaders who do nothing.

so you could have taken the ACTION of agreeing to put your content into the public domain if you use any of the techniques i show you.

and you choose instead to just spew more words.

bronco67 12-21-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18645292)
Exactly i am not buying the content i am buying the right to listen to it.


no one is ever going to create something that came 100% from your mind because your mind derives everything from what it observes around it.

So basically the answer is "no". This is your double-talkey way of saying you don't have the talent to create anything on your own.

GregE 12-21-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18644007)
The wallpaper cheese tickled the green table until the jelly tree danced over the money

For a minute there I thought I was reading one of gideongallery's dissertations ... but then I recognized your avatar.

That's okay though, your statement makes a hell of a lot more sense than any of his arguments :)

gideongallery 12-22-2011 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18645619)
So basically the answer is "no". This is your double-talkey way of saying you don't have the talent to create anything on your own.

wrong that me saying that i have enough integrity to not baldfaced lie and claim that i created it 100% out of my mind.

want to change the question to something reasonable and i will present you whatever you want as long as your willing to pay for at least once (since that is exactly what i am defending)

bronco67 12-22-2011 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18646357)
wrong that me saying that i have enough integrity to not baldfaced lie and claim that i created it 100% out of my mind.

want to change the question to something reasonable and i will present you whatever you want as long as your willing to pay for at least once (since that is exactly what i am defending)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks for proving my point.

In my Avatar the animated girl I created has a bikini on. So the work is not 100% mine because I didn't invent the bikini, or other girls have worn a bikini before? So my work is not 100% from my mind because I didn't invent the human body?

You're so full of shit.


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