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Fletch XXX 12-20-2011 11:07 AM

personally i wish people who speed would do a year more than some idiot uploading a movie.

how many people in this thread dont drive over speed limit?

LOL

epitome 12-20-2011 11:13 AM

A year for grand theft is not much.

You guys think of it as a simple petty theft but it may have cost its owners millions.

God this industry is full of retards. No wonder there is so much fail.

_Richard_ 12-20-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18641712)
they have done study after study and punishment does not deter crime.

nor does the death penalty.

LOL

going further, canada offers a good example on the differences of a country that has capital punishment to a country not having capital punishment etc

people more willing to convict murder 1 etc

Failed 12-20-2011 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18642305)
A year for grand theft is not much.

You guys think of it as a simple petty theft but it may have cost its owners millions.

God this industry is full of retards. No wonder there is so much fail.

A year in prison is just too long, for a number of reasons.

- People commit far more serious offenses and get less prison time
- Now the taxpayer is paying for a pirate to eat, be housed, and guarded for a year
- The article makes no mention of any restitution having to be paid or any fines given with the prison sentence.

The end result is a pirate spends more time in prison than people who do far more serious crimes, we have to pay for him to be there, he pays nothing. How is that fair?

And, because of the movie not being at the release level, the movie still did almost $400 million. One could argue the man did an exceptional job at marketing the film.

BlackCrayon 12-20-2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18642305)
A year for grand theft is not much.

You guys think of it as a simple petty theft but it may have cost its owners millions.

God this industry is full of retards. No wonder there is so much fail.

yet someone who abuses a child typically doesn't even get a year in jail. i guess kids are worth less than movies in this society. pretty sad.

blackmonsters 12-20-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18641388)
Christ, there are some serious crimes committed with less of a sentence. Not that he shouldn't be punished, but prison time for 1 movie, yikes. The movie and music industry are puppet masters on the level with the banks in this country.

I know someone who got 3 years for using a credit card number.
So no I don't think this sentence is harsh.

The guy possibly committed more offenses than copyright infringement.

- He first had to steal a physical copy of the movie before he uploaded it.
- How did he get access to that? Did he commit illegal entry? Hack a database?
Violate the company's intellectual property agreement he'd signed?
- Then there is the "scope" of the offense. He provided the movie to how many people?
- Then he used electronic communication services to commit the act; a separate offense.
- Then committed that across state lines and most likely international thus broadening
the scope of offenses committed.

The reality is that if the book were thrown at him from every available angle then
he could have gotten a lot more time.

blackmonsters 12-20-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18642326)
A year in prison is just too long, for a number of reasons.

- People commit far more serious offenses and get less prison time
- Now the taxpayer is paying for a pirate to eat, be housed, and guarded for a year
- The article makes no mention of any restitution having to be paid or any fines given with the prison sentence.

The end result is a pirate spends more time in prison than people who do far more serious crimes, we have to pay for him to be there, he pays nothing. How is that fair?

And, because of the movie not being at the release level, the movie still did almost $400 million. One could argue the man did an exceptional job at marketing the film.

Bro that's just a crock of shit. You are basically arguing that because someone got
away with speeding that others that get caught deserve cheaper tickets.

:1orglaugh

SmutHammer 12-20-2011 11:47 AM

I'm shocked to see how many people think a year is to long, this is theft plain and simple, and with it being something valued over the $1,000. mark or whatever it is, it's also a felony! he isn't someone who downloaded a movie online and seeded it, he is the reason it's online....

borked 12-20-2011 11:49 AM

On another story, did you know you can now drag/drop a movie/track from iTunes onto your desktop and it's saved automatically ready to upload to torrents?
When did that shit happen?

borked 12-20-2011 11:50 AM

I thought the point of digital media was to make it difficult to pirate - my bad. Back to my bday.

Caligari 12-20-2011 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 18642404)
I thought the point of digital media was to make it difficult to pirate - my bad. Back to my bday.

hey happy birthday borked!

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bronco67 12-20-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18641388)
Christ, there are some serious crimes committed with less of a sentence. Not that he shouldn't be punished, but prison time for 1 movie, yikes. The movie and music industry are puppet masters on the level with the banks in this country.

At least movie studios actually create something, so they deserve any money they make -- as opposed to bankers and financial industry scum, who basically skim money from wherever they can leech on to it. Big difference.

Spunky 12-20-2011 12:05 PM

Cut off his hands like they do in those Middle Eastern countries

DamianJ 12-20-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18641990)
Not name calling at all, you are a slithering two headed snake.

Oh, sorry. You ACTUALLY think I am physically a snake? I see.

You're a funny guy!

epitome 12-20-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18642330)
yet someone who abuses a child typically doesn't even get a year in jail. i guess kids are worth less than movies in this society. pretty sad.

They don't? What backwards area do you live in?

Adult Insider Dave 12-20-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18641293)
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046285.html

The guy that uploaded the nearly finished workprint of the wolverine movie in 2009 just got sentenced to 1 year in prison for doing so. I doubt it will have any impact on pirating, but it is good to see people actually paying a price for their crimes.

He'll be out in 3 months in other words? lol.

Who's that asian in your sig?

lucas131 12-20-2011 01:02 PM

what a wasted life because of fucked up world hating judge motherfucker

blackmonsters 12-20-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Insider Dave (Post 18642582)
He'll be out in 3 months in other words? lol.

TRUE!!!

A little secret : He would serve more time if he had been sentenced to 6 months!
Sentences under 1 year are not eligible for 2-3 days off for every 1 day good behavior.

The dude's lawyer probably begged to get one year instead of six months.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Robbie 12-20-2011 01:23 PM

I keep seeing people say that convicted child molesters get less time.... bullshit
You guys care to show all the cases where a CONVICTED child molestor got less?

porno jew 12-20-2011 01:29 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181498,00.html

Cashman sentenced a child molester to 60 days of jail time — a sentence he said was designed to ensure the man got prompt sex-offender treatment.
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Jel 12-20-2011 02:16 PM

people saying he should have got less because 'insert criminal here' only got 'insert sentence here' are fucking morons...

Robbie 12-20-2011 02:18 PM

1 case that was an exception doesn't equal what was being insinuated over and over

gideongallery 12-20-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18642776)
1 case that was an exception doesn't equal what was being insinuated over and over

seriously you just had someone prove their statement is 100% true and you bitching because it not the majority

no one said it was the majority, they just said that a convicted child molester got less time

DamianJ 12-20-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18642631)
I keep seeing people say that convicted child molesters get less time.... bullshit
You guys care to show all the cases where a CONVICTED child molestor got less?

60 days for a convicted child molester:

http://www.vnews.com/sexcrimes/sentencing.htm

Do you know how to use google?

Robbie 12-20-2011 04:52 PM

gideongallery and damianj

I specifically said that it was being insinuated in this thread that child molesters routinely got less time than a year. And that's just not true.

As for this guy...he will be out in far less than a years time for sure. But he deserved what he got. It's called stealing.

adultchatpay 12-20-2011 05:15 PM

1 year is fair, that one movie upload cost the producers millions of dollars in lost profit. Thousand downloaded the film online, millions bought the pirated dvd copy of the film...

Robbie 12-20-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 18643119)
1 year is fair, that one movie upload cost the producers millions of dollars in lost profit. Thousand downloaded the film online, millions bought the pirated dvd copy of the film...

And even if it didn't cost them one penny...it was still STEALING. :)

Caligari 12-20-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18643078)
gideongallery and damianj
I specifically said that it was being insinuated in this thread that child molesters routinely got less time than a year. And that's just not true.
As for this guy...he will be out in far less than a years time for sure. But he deserved what he got. It's called stealing.

C'mon man, you know that gideon and damian are full of shit by this time right?
I mean you got Damian in this thread simultaneously defending pirate tactics and then saying they should be punished...all in the same post:1orglaugh

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Major (Tom) 12-20-2011 05:51 PM

lets hope it's a year of hard time & not club fed
ds

uno 12-20-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18641470)
He caused maybe millions in damages.

Totally. Between the thousands of people who dl'ed that horrible movie and the word of mouth from the people who saw it about how horrible it was, they had to miss out huge on a first weekend opening anyway.

uno 12-20-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18641719)
I don't "hate" pirates. I understand why they do it, it is illegal and I think they should be punished. Assuming one can prove a crime was committed.

Do you not think there should be any laws or punishments then?

PS are you actually laughing out loud when you type LOL? Seems odd.

PPS too slow on your edit, LOL

Personally I rarely ever actually LOL or ROFLMAO or even just ROFL when I type it. Maybe 5%.

uno 12-20-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18641865)
Will make for some very awkward "what are you in for?" conversation in the prison yard. He may as well get his butthole widened before he goes in.

It's a weird thing -- this urge to upload a movie on the internet for everyone. What does the guy get out of it, besides some kind of sticking-it-to-the-man/Robin Hood sense of accomplishment. Or is that it?

props/clout. :2 cents:

SleazyDream 12-20-2011 06:17 PM

moral of the story - ADMIT to nothing.

idiot admitted to it.

GregE 12-20-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18642330)
yet someone who abuses a child typically doesn't even get a year in jail. i guess kids are worth less than movies in this society. pretty sad.

Ummm, perhaps the answer here is to up the penalties for child abuse.

Something which, btw, should have been done right from the get go.

BlackCrayon 12-20-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18643078)
gideongallery and damianj

I specifically said that it was being insinuated in this thread that child molesters routinely got less time than a year. And that's just not true.

As for this guy...he will be out in far less than a years time for sure. But he deserved what he got. It's called stealing.

If i have some spare time i could post a good 25 from the last few years alone. i see these stories all the time in the news.

BlackCrayon 12-20-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 18643314)
Ummm, perhaps the answer here is to up the penalties for child abuse.

Something which, btw, should have been done right from the get go.

property is worth more than people. its always been this way unfortunately. some poor ghetto kid who got molested isn't worth near as much in society as a movie that will net a billion dollars over the course of 10 years.

Robbie 12-20-2011 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18643322)
If i have some spare time i could post a good 25 from the last few years alone. i see these stories all the time in the news.

I'm just thinking..that every time I turn around they are throwing the book at everybody for every damn thing. lol

I rarely see a judge use any discretion in the cases I see on the news...well, except when they want to present the story as a "shocking" case of an inept Judge.

Plus they change the damn definitions of stuff too. When they are arresting 21 year old guys for having sex with their 16 year old girlfriends and calling it the same thing as a guy raping a baby, it gets hard to differentiate.

Anyway...I think the guy got what was coming to him in this case. And probably had a good lawyer to get off as light as he did. He outright STOLE that film and tried to damage the studio by releasing it for free.

Caligari 12-20-2011 09:02 PM

Jesus fuck it's amazing how people get baited into these nonsensical comparisons...

What the fuck do child abuse laws have to do with the case in point? Just because child abuse laws are weak has nothing to do with this twat getting a year for grand theft.

He got a year and should have got more.

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kane 12-20-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18643362)
I'm just thinking..that every time I turn around they are throwing the book at everybody for every damn thing. lol

I rarely see a judge use any discretion in the cases I see on the news...well, except when they want to present the story as a "shocking" case of an inept Judge.

Plus they change the damn definitions of stuff too. When they are arresting 21 year old guys for having sex with their 16 year old girlfriends and calling it the same thing as a guy raping a baby, it gets hard to differentiate.

Anyway...I think the guy got what was coming to him in this case. And probably had a good lawyer to get off as light as he did. He outright STOLE that film and tried to damage the studio by releasing it for free.

Yeah, it seems like - at least for me - most of the stories I see or hear about are just the opposite and it is people getting crazy sentences for stupid shit like a guy getting 5 years for stealing a sandwich or the case where the guy was 17 and had sex with a 15 year old at a party and got 10 year for it even though she was the aggressor.

From my own experience I had my identity stolen a few years back and the guy that did it had two prior felony convictions. One for identity theft and one for assault. He also had a warrant for domestic violence for beating the hell out of his girlfriend. When they caught him the prosecutor cute him a deal. Instead of trying two cases (the domestic/assault and identity theft) he pleaded guilty to the assault charges and they let him off with much lighter stuff on the identity theft charges. He got 9 months. So a guy with 4 felony convictions ended up serving just 9 months. However, they did this to make sure he had 2 felony convictions that were violent crimes. This way if he does it again it is part of the three strikes rule and he goes away for at least 25 years.

Mr Pheer 12-20-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18641712)
they have done study after study and punishment does not deter crime.

nor does the death penalty.

LOL

There mere fact that I havent killed anyone yet disproves their studies. Because I have sure wanted to. The thought of going to prison has been the only thing that has stopped me.

So, I say that it does work.


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