60 years in the porn biz

[JohnRingo]

I've been in the porn biz a long time. Used to sell gelatin prints under the newsstand in the 50s and then in strip clubs until recently doing some online stuff.

And if I have learned one thing it's this - once a guy cums he stops spending.

This is the number 1 thing I've learned. The number 2 thing is that every days thousands of girls turn 18 and variety is the spice of life.

So why do I say this? Well it's simple. Please content producers - stop giving away the nut. Your long tube clips and galleries with legs spread and a fist inside is killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

Same for u cam models who are squatting on bed posts for $50 for 1000 guys at a time.

[_Richard_]

[PiracyPitbull]

so true.

Where did all the salesman go ?

[Rochard]

Seems to me you've been in the business since October of 2010.

[B.Barnato]

Paul is that you?

[scottybuzz]

where the fuck does gfy get these retards?!

[xenigo]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

Same for u cam models who are squatting on bed posts for $50 for 1000 guys at a time.

That's my favorite.

[johnnyloadproductions]

Kinda neat to find out how long you've been around and you're just now getting around to GFY?
I thought you were just some punk to start out with.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

I've been in the porn biz a long time. Used to sell gelatin prints under the newsstand in the 50s and then in strip clubs until recently doing some online stuff.

And if I have learned one thing it's this - once a guy cums he stops spending.

This is the number 1 thing I've learned. The number 2 thing is that every days thousands of girls turn 18 and variety is the spice of life.

So why do I say this? Well it's simple. Please content producers - stop giving away the nut. Your long tube clips and galleries with legs spread and a fist inside is killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

Same for u cam models who are squatting on bed posts for $50 for 1000 guys at a time.

So you're around 70 years old or older? That would be you selling porn at 18 years old in the 1950's up until 2011....

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by anexsia

So you're around 70 years old or older? That would be you selling porn at 18 years old in the 1950's up until 2011....

Anexsia, what is your story? Seems like you are doing alright for yourself. I really haven't dug to hard into affiliate marketing, yet.

I use to be a producer but that became too difficult from where I lived, plus the inconsistencies of models and getting shoots done on a regular basis.

[porno jew]

back to digital point now.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Anexsia, what is your story? Seems like you are doing alright for yourself. I really haven't dug to hard into affiliate marketing, yet.

I use to be a producer but that became too difficult from where I lived, plus the inconsistencies of models and getting shoots done on a regular basis.

I'm really new to the adult industry. I have a full time job but I was always interested in adult and figured I would give it a shot as an affiliate. I just do blogs with a few TGPs added in. This is a hobby that I enjoy and It's fun working on things and seeing websites you have made grow and eventually make sales. It's kinda addicting to make more and more websites and see your work pay off. I don't really have to much of a plan right now...the money I make from adult I reinvest back into new domains/scripts and then hopefully once my adult income grows I can use it to stash away for a rainy day fund or stocks.

[amateurbfs]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Seems to me you've been in the business since October of 2010.

You would think that

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by anexsia

I'm really new to the adult industry. I have a full time job but I was always interested in adult and figured I would give it a shot as an affiliate. I just do blogs with a few TGPs added in. This is a hobby that I enjoy and It's fun working on things and seeing websites you have made grow and eventually make sales. It's kinda addicting to make more and more websites and see your work pay off. I don't really have to much of a plan right now...the money I make from adult I reinvest back into new domains/scripts and then hopefully once my adult income grows I can use it to stash away for a rainy day fund or stocks.

It is interesting watching people grow and eventually make posts saying that they are starting to think about leaving there mainstream job because they are making enough. Maybe fortune will strike you down the road.

[JohnRingo]

As if a GFY membership is when someone enters the biz. Lol. And actually I was 13 when I was sellin the pics at the newsstand.

Notice how no one said anything about th meat of my post. Since it is 100% true the turds here have nothing to criticize.

[porno jew]

it's 2011 and people want sites like chaturbate now.

adapt or die.

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by porno jew

it's 2011 and people want sites like chaturbate now.

adapt or die.

I dont give a fuck what people want. Men who spend money want one of two things - to get away from a nagging wife or girlfriend od to cope with the fact they don't have a nagging wife or girlfriend.

The 1000 guys in an MFC chat room or 100 guys watching 2 birds fuck on chaturdbate are not customers. They are poison and I avoid them at all costs.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

As if a GFY membership is when someone enters the biz. Lol. And actually I was 13 when I was sellin the pics at the newsstand.

Notice how no one said anything about th meat of my post. Since it is 100% true the turds here have nothing to criticize.

Is that you, Burt Reynolds? ;)

I'd be on your wagon except your "silly little porn site" has 30 minute videos...whats up wif dat?

[baddog]

When did people start judging your experience by how long you were registered at GFY?

Oh yeah.

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Is that you, Burt Reynolds? ;)

I'd be on your wagon except your "silly little porn site" has 30 minute videos...whats up wif dat?

U got the wrong site bub.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by baddog

When did people start judging your experience by how long you were registered at GFY?

Oh yeah.

I judge by how many gray hairs this business gives you.

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I judge by how many gray hairs this business gives you.

I hear a chaturdbate embed cures male pattern baldness... but a side effect is ED

[DWB]

JohnRingo, you are right. When a guy cums, and it doesn't take much to get them off, they stop spending. Everyone has been giving away the good stuff for years now, only in a move that the idiots in online porn could make.

People paid top dollar for VHS & DVDs because they could not get them for FREE in the parking lot. They couldn't even get 10 minutes of a scene for free. Sure, they could go in a video booth and pay by the minute, but they were still paying a premium for that time.

So here comes online porn, the biggest race to destroy itself the world may have ever seen. Give away more and more and more, just to *try* to keep up because you *think* you know what sells and what guys really want. Instead, you created a world of freeloaders.

Before there were videos, people jacked off to photos. Personally, I STILL prefer photos, but these days all the pics on every porn site is so big, and they give it all away, you don't need to pay for anything. And heaven help you if you spend a second on Google and find all the tubes. Just surf and freeload. Guys can get off to cell phone videos, pics, HD, non-HD, non-nude, nude, whatever. If you have a penis, you know this. There is no reason to pay for porn now, and you all owe that to yourselves. Then to add insult to injury, the guys who ARE still willing to pay, and god bless them, we fuck them over with shitty sites, bang their card, don't help them when they need it, or promise things we don't deliver on.

This is not about technology, adapt or die, or how times change. It's about we all royally fucked up the best thing to ever happened to the entire porn industry. Congrats.

Looking forward to seeing how many of you are gone within the next 2 years. Enjoy what time you have left.

[CyberHustler]

You must be old as fuck...

[seeandsee]

i am in porn for 100 years, first i made prints of fucking, then fuckign without sound, then fucking with sound, then i made fake cocks and pussies, then i went to america and made pornstars

[AdultKing]

DWB is the only one who worked out the crux of what was being said.

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by DWB

JohnRingo, you are right. When a guy cums, and it doesn't take much to get them off, they stop spending. Everyone has been giving away the good stuff for years now, only in a move that the idiots in online porn could make.

People paid top dollar for VHS & DVDs because they could not get them for FREE in the parking lot. They couldn't even get 10 minutes of a scene for free. Sure, they could go in a video booth and pay by the minute, but they were still paying a premium for that time.

So here comes online porn, the biggest race to destroy itself the world may have ever seen. Give away more and more and more, just to *try* to keep up because you *think* you know what sells and what guys really want. Instead, you created a world of freeloaders.

Before there were videos, people jacked off to photos. Personally, I STILL prefer photos, but these days all the pics on every porn site is so big, and they give it all away, you don't need to pay for anything. And heaven help you if you spend a second on Google and find all the tubes. Just surf and freeload. Guys can get off to cell phone videos, pics, HD, non-HD, non-nude, nude, whatever. If you have a penis, you know this. There is no reason to pay for porn now, and you all owe that to yourselves. Then to add insult to injury, the guys who ARE still willing to pay, and god bless them, we fuck them over with shitty sites, bang their card, don't help them when they need it, or promise things we don't deliver on.

This is not about technology, adapt or die, or how times change. It's about we all royally fucked up the best thing to ever happened to the entire porn industry. Congrats.

Looking forward to seeing how many of you are gone within the next 2 years. Enjoy what time you have left.

Nicely put.

[JohnRingo]

Just saw a post where NS released like 600 galleries and someone in the thread was begging for more... Said more galleries made it easy to sell. Lol.

Since the cap can't be put back ok the bottle maybe if some sponsors cut all the crap affiliates that would help as well. I wonder how many people signed up as affiliates just to get the FHGs?

I know there are sponsor I have that I haven't pushed or pushe and not made a sale with for about a year now, yet I am still able to access every bit of their free 5 minute tube files. I can get off twice in that amount of time.

[Paul Markham]

This is now mostly a Ma & Pa game. It's now about squeezing $50 out of 1,000 and that's a great return, than selling $1,000s to 50.

They talk about online being the future of porn. The future of porn will never be anything like the past.

They talk about it bringing millions of viewers to porn, yet viewers aren't any good until they buy.

They talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and the business takes less money on every word.

[JohnRingo]

Looks like u yourself talk too much Paul.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

i am in porn for 100 years, first i made prints of fucking, then fuckign without sound, then fucking with sound, then i made fake cocks and pussies, then i went to america and made pornstars

And I now sell my signature.

[PrimeBrands]

Impressive

[stocktrader23]

I wrote romance novels and porn stories for a living and now all of you bastards are giving away sexy paragraphs for free trying to sell paysites. Make people pay to read your blog damn it!

[nikki99]

DWB is very smart

[scarlettcontent]

and there me thinking scarlett had been in the biz a long time at 40 years

[stocktrader23]

DWB, you're a smart guy and I enjoy your posts here but you are fighting the inevitable. The glory days of porn online happened because it was new and there were no other options. Even if every single porn pusher on earth had stuck to the less is more mentality a big company would have still come along to take advantage of the business model we were all ignoring.

As you can see, mainstream companies don't always operate on the bill bill bill model and if they do they actually provide value to their customers. It was a matter of time before someone used the lack of free porn to gather traffic on a big scale and this is a repeat of the TGP days. Porn isn't going anywhere, many small timers are.

[JohnRingo]

Thanks for agreeing with me stocktrader.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

DWB, you're a smart guy and I enjoy your posts here but you are fighting the inevitable. The glory days of porn online happened because it was new and there were no other options. Even if every single porn pusher on earth had stuck to the less is more mentality a big company would have still come along to take advantage of the business model we were all ignoring.

As you can see, mainstream companies don't always operate on the bill bill bill model and if they do they actually provide value to their customers. It was a matter of time before someone used the lack of free porn to gather traffic on a big scale and this is a repeat of the TGP days. Porn isn't going anywhere, many small timers are.

Somewhere there is a typewriter manufacturer complaining about computers.

[Eyeball]

People who have been in the adult industry for 60 years don't get hard over making $500 in a month. Were you in a coma for 55 of those years?

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by Eyeball

People who have been in the adult industry for 60 years don't get hard over making $500 in a month. Were you in a coma for 55 of those years?

Was too busy fucking playboy models. Now I'm bored.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

Looks like u yourself talk too much Paul.

I have time now. Made my money in the days before the clever gurus decided giving it away was the key to selling. so can sit back and watch people like affiliates flood the place with free porn.

Are you an affiliate?

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

DWB, you're a smart guy and I enjoy your posts here but you are fighting the inevitable. The glory days of porn online happened because it was new and there were no other options. Even if every single porn pusher on earth had stuck to the less is more mentality a big company would have still come along to take advantage of the business model we were all ignoring.

As you can see, mainstream companies don't always operate on the bill bill bill model and if they do they actually provide value to their customers. It was a matter of time before someone used the lack of free porn to gather traffic on a big scale and this is a repeat of the TGP days. Porn isn't going anywhere, many small timers are.

This theory works fine with a model built on a price that supports free porn.

If there were no affiliates, then the price would be able to plummet. Free porn isn't free, it's the most expensive part of online porn. Remove it and hey presto, one guy using free porn to get tons of traffic is selling at $30 and the same site under a different heading with different girls on different sofas is $15. We all know surfers are quick learners.

Or a site owner has more money to create a site to the level Met Art in another niche. Burdened with the heavy price of paying you, he couldn't afford to pay me. Nothing personal just using us two, as examples.

Or in the good old days of online, when it was too expensive to give it away in the quantities we can today. The successful site owners would of made a fortune. A real one, not what people here think.

You recently boasted that you would be making $1,000 for sending traffic to Chaturbate. Do you think it's right that someone with only the skills of sending traffic from his home should earn so much? Think outside your situation?

I in no way blame you. I blame those who think traffic is king.

This business was once using a bit of pre recorded porn as bait to send traffic to a pre recorded porn site. It's now one of using a lot of pre recorded porn to send traffic to a site that doesn't sell pre recorded porn. And often doesn't supply the pre recorded porn as the bait.

[Vendzilla]

Gebus, I haven't heard this much whinning since my trip to Napa

Need Cheese?

[crash_jackson]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Seems to me you've been in the business since October of 2010.

lol

[crash_jackson]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

where the fuck does gfy get these retards?!

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Gebus, I haven't heard this much whinning since my trip to Napa

Need Cheese?

Shouldn't u be helping affiliates make 0$ sales?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

Shouldn't u be helping affiliates make 0$ sales?

Sending you cheese right now.

I have two screens and can mutlitask. You can't even understand how our system works

[you-big-dummy]

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Sending you cheese right now.

I have two screens and can mutlitask. You can't even understand how our system works

Yes I do. Shove a bunch of eastern Europeans in a closet. Press play.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

DWB, you're a smart guy and I enjoy your posts here but you are fighting the inevitable. The glory days of porn online happened because it was new and there were no other options. Even if every single porn pusher on earth had stuck to the less is more mentality a big company would have still come along to take advantage of the business model we were all ignoring.

As you can see, mainstream companies don't always operate on the bill bill bill model and if they do they actually provide value to their customers. It was a matter of time before someone used the lack of free porn to gather traffic on a big scale and this is a repeat of the TGP days. Porn isn't going anywhere, many small timers are.

Not fighting it, I accept it. Just pointing out how bad we fucked up a good thing.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by DWB

Not fighting it, I accept it. Just pointing out how bad we fucked up a good thing.

I agree with you in a sense, I just don't think it ever could have been stopped. Eventually some company with millions to spend would have run us over anyhow ala YouTube. We could have drug it out a lot longer with some models that offered more value to the consumer (NetFlix) but people would rather self destruct than change. In the big scheme of things porn is so cheap to produce that using it to get traffic to sell other things is something a lot more people should have considered before being forced into it.