Reddit calls for the help of the adult industry against SOPA

[Chris]

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com...shut_down_the/

They feel the adult industry is the last hope ( lol? )

also a few people posted links saying come to gfy ;/ oh lord.

[DateDoc]

wikipedia may go black for a week in opposition to SOPA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_t...an d_a_strike

[blackmonsters]

Yeah, good idea. Come ask the one group of people who they steal from the most.

[96ukssob]

Dear online porn industry: Please shut down the tubes for 6 hours tonight in protest of the SOPA. You're our only hope now.

Should read 6 months

[stocktrader23]

And everyone should be willing to help but shortsightedness and ignorance run rampant.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

And everyone should be willing to help but shortsightedness and ignorance run rampant.

QFT


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[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

And everyone should be willing to help but shortsightedness and ignorance run rampant.

So true. It's actually pretty sad.

[Klen]

Well i dont run tube sites so i cant help

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

And everyone should be willing to help but shortsightedness and ignorance run rampant.

The short sightedness was on the part of big websites that did not seek any kind of
agreement whatsoever with content creators. Legit businesses have paid licensing
fees to copyright holders for a long time and have been very profitable.

Being absolutely greedy and stubborn about paying even the smallest fee forced
a iron hand to be played.

The copyright law was clear and people clearly decided not to give a fuck.

All these sites had to do was work with the industries to make a affordable agreement
to distribute the material. It worked for radio, television, book stores, night clubs,
retail stores, movie rentals.......it worked for everybody except assholes on the internet.

It doesn't matter if this bill is not passed because there will simply
be another one down the road that will pass.
Money is involved and that is the end of all other factors because the money is going
to be gotten one way or another.

The government has a stake in this in the terms of increased tax revenue from the
companies they protect. The government is going after the money.


Free speech and fair use arguments against this bill are complete bullshit as the
bill is explicit in targeting sites who's main purpose is to pirate.


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...TolcMn:e29080:

SEC. 103. MARKET-BASED SYSTEM TO PROTECT U.S. CUSTOMERS AND PREVENT U.S. FUNDING OF SITES DEDICATED TO THEFT OF U.S. PROPERTY.

(a) Definitions- In this section:

(1) DEDICATED TO THEFT OF U.S. PROPERTY- An `Internet site is dedicated to theft of U.S. property' if--

(A) it is an Internet site, or a portion thereof, that is a U.S.-directed site and is used by users within the United States; and

(B) either--

(i) the U.S.-directed site is primarily designed or operated for the purpose of, has only limited purpose or use other than, or is marketed by its operator or another acting in concert with that operator for use in, offering goods or services in a manner that engages in, enables, or facilitates--

(I) a violation of section 501 of title 17, United States Code;

(II) a violation of section 1201 of title 17, United States Code; or

(III) the sale, distribution, or promotion of goods, services, or materials bearing a counterfeit mark, as that term is defined in section 34(d) of the Lanham Act or section 2320 of title 18, United States Code; or

(ii) the operator of the U.S.-directed site--

(I) is taking, or has taken, deliberate actions to avoid confirming a high probability of the use of the U.S.-directed site to carry out acts that constitute a violation of section 501 or 1201 of title 17, United States Code; or

(II) operates the U.S.-directed site with the object of promoting, or has promoted, its use to carry out acts that constitute a violation of section 501 or 1201 of title 17, United States Code, as shown by clear expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement.

(2) QUALIFYING PLAINTIFF- The term `qualifying plaintiff' means, with respect to a particular Internet site or portion thereof, a holder of an intellectual property right harmed by the activities described in paragraph (1) occurring on that Internet site or portion thereof.

(b) Denying U.S. Financial Support of Sites Dedicated to Theft of U.S. Property-
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Why are big names opposed to the bill? Ah, because the google images are afraid.



Didn't the goog want to copy all books and put them online at one time?



Yeah, censorship my ass. Just fucking pay up like everybody else has done for a century.

[baryl]

"Please help us continue to steal your content and instruct everyone we come across how to block ads and popunders so you don't make any money off of our traffic either." - Reddit

I hate the SOPA but fuck Reddit.

[stocktrader23]

As usual, blackmonsters can't see the big picture thanks to his hatred of pirates.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by bossku69

Should read 6 months

Yes, please tubes, shut down for 6 hours or however long you feel to make a stance against SOPA.

Thank you,
Paysites

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

As usual, blackmonsters can't see the big picture thanks to his hatred of pirates.

Fuck a picture, I want to see the big dollar back in my pocket.


Furthermore, you don't see the biggest picture where if this stuff is not put in check
then the amount of new material being produced will go down to nothing.
It cost money to produce content. If the money is not made back then no
more content can be produced. It's very simple.

The porn sites that went out of business are not producing any new content you know?
If all the producers go belly up then what will the pirates have to pirate?
They will collapse themselves because they didn't want to pay.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Fuck a picture, I want to see the big dollar back in my pocket.


Furthermore, you don't see the biggest picture where if this stuff is not put in check
then the amount of new material being produced will go down to nothing.
It cost money to produce content. If the money is not made back then no
more content can be produced. It's very simple.

The porn sites that went out of business are not producing any new content you know?
If all the producers go belly up then what will the pirates have to pirate?
They will collapse themselves because they didn't want to pay.

There is a biz model I heard at the Euro shows. People produce content so it purposely gets stolen then they sue the end users. "The suits make way more money than the site ever would."

[Why]

F SOPA.

Letting the goverment, large corporations or competitors determine "intent" can be a very bad thing. Specially when coupled with the thought that they can shut it down without due process, proof or really anything but their own desire.

Time to start paying into FBI, ICE, DHS people's "promotion campaign funds", so they take your side, and help you screw with competitors. it will be like federal elections but lower level and much scummier.

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

And everyone should be willing to help but shortsightedness and ignorance run rampant.

So, what you're saying is that honest webmasters being forced to play endless games of whack-a-mole in a futile effort to keep their content off of the tubes and file sharing forums is the way that things should remain?

That's pretty fucked up don't you think?


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[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Fuck a picture, I want to see the big dollar back in my pocket.


Furthermore, you don't see the biggest picture where if this stuff is not put in check
then the amount of new material being produced will go down to nothing.
It cost money to produce content. If the money is not made back then no
more content can be produced. It's very simple.

The porn sites that went out of business are not producing any new content you know?
If all the producers go belly up then what will the pirates have to pirate?
They will collapse themselves because they didn't want to pay.

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

So, what you're saying is that honest webmasters being forced to play endless games of whack-a-mole in a futile effort to keep their content off of the tubes and file sharing forums is the way that things should remain?

That's pretty fucked up don't you think?


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You're right, they should instead make sites like GFY / Facebook / Twitter / Reddit / YouTube and every other site with user generated content impossible to own and operate legally.

If you didn't catch the thick ass sarcasm in that post I'll make it easy. It would be fucking retarded to support this bill and anyone that does support it is retarded.

[sicone]

[MakingItPay]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

You're right, they should instead make sites like GFY / Facebook / Twitter / Reddit / YouTube and every other site with user generated content impossible to own and operate legally.

If you didn't catch the thick ass sarcasm in that post I'll make it easy. It would be fucking retarded to support this bill and anyone that does support it is retarded.

I guess those sites making the money would have spend some to police them, instead of content owners having to do it. Not saying it's a good law, I haven't read it. Im just relieved they are finally addressing the injustice of content pirates ruling the world. I hope the law doesn't affect your bottom line the way piracy has mine. That might turn you retarded like me.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by sicone

[GetSCORECash]

Originally Posted by kristin

Yes, please tubes, shut down for 6 hours or however long you feel to make a stance against SOPA.

Thank you,
Paysites

If only!

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

You're right, they should instead make sites like GFY / Facebook / Twitter / Reddit / YouTube and every other site with user generated content impossible to own and operate legally.

No one has a problem with user generated content just so long as it's not stolen content.

The sites you listed above do not require stolen content to exist.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

If you didn't catch the thick ass sarcasm in that post I'll make it easy.

I caught it. What I didn't catch was anything even remotely resembling a reply to the points blackmonsters and I raised.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

It would be fucking retarded to support this bill and anyone that does support it is retarded.

So sayeth a man who profits off of tubes.

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[SmutHammer]

There not asking the adult insustry for help, they are asking adult industry tubes (thieves) for help.

Fuck reddit and every one that is against sopa!

[crockett]

Once again a Republican sponsored bill to add MORE govt regulation and take away rights.





Just thought I'd add that in..

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

There not asking the adult insustry for help, they are asking adult industry tubes (thieves) for help.

Good point.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Fuck reddit and every one that is against sopa!

No one is stopping reddit or anyone else from offering up an alternative suggestion that adequately addresses both their concerns and the concerns of licensed content holders.

Might that be because there is no alternative?

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[epitome]

Oh the irony.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

No one has a problem with user generated content just so long as it's not stolen content.

The sites you listed above do not require stolen content to exist.

Yawn. Complete ignorance that would take me a week to explain to you. Great strategy.

I caught it. What I didn't catch was anything even remotely resembling a reply to the points blackmonsters and I raised.

I called him retarded.

So sayeth a man who profits off of tubes.

Horse shit.

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Yawn. Complete ignorance that would take me a week to explain to you. Great strategy.

Bullshit.

GFY, to name just one such example, clearly does not require the use of stolen content to exist.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I called him retarded.

Yeah, I noticed.

The man made some damn good points and you know it.

That's why you replied the way you did.

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