I've noticed that the hun's galleries are some of the best quality anywhere and I think it's because he doesn't post paysite hosted galleries.

I've been to a few TGPs lately that were full of hosted galleries and the stuff was just booooring. Not the type of TGPs that get me to bookmark them.

The hun keeps it fresh, thats why he gets the millions of visitors everyday.

5 months ago, hosted galleries did not exist.

You sure you're in the same adult biz as the rest of us are in?

Links are not protected but his descriptions are because he write them him self...

2 years ago, stiffycash had hosted galleries.

:1orglaugh

"if it ain't broke don't fix it"

apologies if someone else said that already, i'm too lazy to read all the posts.

Funny... the page changed a LOT over the years. On the backend there are modifications made every day. The gallery layouts changed, the content changed. Niches came and went away again, The Yellow Pages always went with the flow of what was popular. Not that I had to keep an eye on that myself. Gallery builders build what make them money. And that's what they submit. So my site links to galleries and niches that are the most popular at that time.

I might be giving away a big secret here, but the ONLY thing that hasn't changed about my site is the way my ever changing content is presented. That has always been the same simple design. But people don't come to my site to see how good a webdesigner I am. If I hadn't changed over the years my site would have been inoperable by now. Especially the back-engine takes a lot of work. Not to speak of the robot. Graphics would make the site look good, but it wouldn't add anything to what people come to see. People want to see galleries... so I bring 'em galleries...

Now for the taking of links: it IS illegal. There is jurispondence (right spelling?) about that as well. There were cases in most countries about database protection. The only thing we had to prove in court is that my site is a database. And I think everybody will agree that it is just yet. So it's not the link individually that are protected by law, it's the collection itself.

A dictionary is copyrighted. Now everybody can speak the words in it without a problem, but if you take information from a dictionary with the goal to republish the content you're violating a database protection law. Same with my site. We copyrighted the collection as well to make everything a lot simpler. The Yellow Pages are registered and reckognized as a database. You can not take information from a database and reproduce it without autorisation from it's owner.

What I wonder about is if it would be legal to publish only certain links, while mentioning the original source.

For instance, listings could look like:

<a href="">bukkake gallery</a> source:<a href="http://www.thehun.com">The Hun</a>
<a href="">gangbang gallery</a> source:<a href="http://www.worldsex.com">WorldSex</a>
<a href="">groupsex gallery</a> source:<a href="http://www.easypic.com">EasyPic</a>
<a href="">story gallery</a> source:<a href="http://www.sleazydream.com">SleazyDream</a>

I think listings of that kind would have a good chance of holding up in court...

You better just make some more sales then to buy him a new one :1orglaugh

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Its not court I'd be worried about :winkwink:

As has been shown before on this very board, there are things that can go wrong when doing that.

I believe you COULD do it like that. As writing a study on something you can 'borrow' anything your little mind wants as long as you point the source on which it was taken. But I doubt you can take every link from the hun and put the hun as source. That would be like photocopying a book, give it a different name and just point out that everything in it is actually the same as the original book.

...and nastyjack. You make me sad.. You were so quick to jump to conclusions when you accused me of childporn... yet you prove time after time you know nothing. :2 cents:

Well, someone could take just a few links from each of the big tgps each day.

Im pretty sure it would, probably get away with fair use without returning a link at all. But where would you rather get your galleries from a reuter? Or direct from the source.

Sometimes it's not possible to get directly from the source. Like a new site? Or a site that just recently started accepting submissions?

If you have a tgp that has like 100 (daily) galleries, you might need to borrow 95/day in the beginning. :)

Controversy works wonders for publicity :)
Besides that, one could quite easily build up a constant flow of high quality niche galleries this way, which could be a good thing especially for a new site.

(btw, I am in no way thinking of doing this myself)

I am, something similar.

Good luck dude, just tell me when you'll put it up, so I can get popcorn in advance :winkwink:

My opinion is that The Hun don't need major design changes.
But enhancing the current graphics by adding them a modern touch would be very welcomed.

A professional cartoonist can make wonders with Hun's mascot.

I seriousely doubt this could decrease Hun's performances.

:2 cents:

Hehehe. :)
It's not really like that, it's a bit different.

What a "nice" nickname you have. Does it reflect the content of your sites?

20K of enhanced traffic? Times 1,616,774 uniques (currently showing on SexTracker, assuming EVERYBODY has their cache switched on), 32.335 Gbyte of transfer. That's 370 Kbytes per second... That's another 3 Mbit, assuming the load would be equal throughout the day (which it's not)... 3 Mbit for - only - 20K of graphics...

check www.huncards.com, there are pretty good graphics, a lot more could be done, but I doubt it will make up the extra bandwidth that will be used.

All this interest in your business. You should go public. Let me know if I can get a good deal on an IPO. :)

I am very glad thay you like my nickname and no it doesn't reflect the content of my sites.

They do change it all the time m8, really ...

dude

relax and read again

it is quite obvious

I totally agree. The http://www.thehun.net/ is about the best tgp out there. No sense mucking with something which already works so well.

--Amelia G

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

I guess The Hun is one of those adept of the KISS concept :D

I'd do the same. + I'd charge ALL webmasters who get listed like $10-$15 per gallery. That would mean $30k / month more cash + MUCH less work. I don't know why he isn't doing it, but that's really not my problem.

I like that idea of charging for every listings, whole lot less crap to deal with .. cold hard cash all the way

Let me see if I get this.
Individual links are NOT protected by law - it's the whole collection of links that are. So taking a few links would be legal then, right?

Am I the only idiot that doesn't understand what he said?

Regards
NastyJack

who cares, i'm not a surfer

Ya but when writing a paper you DONT have to source definitions because it is understood that it is COMMON KNOWLEDGE...

But I agree stealing links should get a persons hand cut off.

You dirty little pervert :Graucho

Lol... Another joker huh!
No one is hotlinking or taking his link discreption dude.

In fact what you're saying is that you would not want someone to post you're link on they're site without asking you first.

Oh yea, just a little reminder for yea.
TheHun use to hotlink images a long time ago so maybe you should tell him that he should get his hands cut off.

Or is you're comment only for least known webmasters?

Regards
NastyJack

I agree ;) there is no need to reinvent the wheel.

If you go to my site or any other database to take a link you're violating database protection laws. The site is a database. If you go there to take information - even if it's one single link - with the intention to reproduce 'em you're violating a law.

The links are not copyrighted individually, but you don't find 'em on my site individially...

The rule is simple: a link-site is a database. Nothing from a database may be reproduced without authority from it's owner.

For the record... I never hotlinked any pictures... I deep linked pages in the past, which means you're linking into a site skipping the front page. In those days not everybody had an index.html up, so it was just an 'index' of pictures. There were people very happy with that 'cause surfers played around with the URL and entered their site through that anyway. When webmasters started complaining about it I started to think it over... Deep linking is not illegal, but I realized it's very unethical to deep link to someone's index just 'cause that person forgot to upload an index.html and/or doesn't know how security works. At that point I stopped linking indexes.

Technically it wasn't illegal, but very unethically. As soon as I realized that it stopped. Most people make mistakes, some people learn from 'em... this was one that I learned from. Strange side-effect was that some of the people I linked in that fashion advertised with me realizing the amount of traffic I had on my site. But anyway, I don't think linking someone's indexes is a very ethical thing to do. The easy solution was uploading an index.html with a redirect to a signup page BTW. I didn't have the robots to check that in those days, so that could have made people some extra money. But anyway, that chapter is closed and over with. I didn't do anything illegal, but I realized it was unethical. I appologized to most of the parties in question. There weren't that many indexes linked. Most I links were paysite preview pages with an occasional index.

I have to say I have a lot of respect for the Hun. We had a Joke site when we started, newbie webmaster. Someone had submitted the Hun site as a link. We sent an email back saying we couldn't use the link because of the content. He replied and apologized :thumbsup and if I remember he said many people did this stuff with submitting his link. Very cool guy