Dude, there are a lot more prettier sites out there, thehun looks like dogs balls to me, its messy but GOD DAMN do the surfs LOVE HIS SITE. And there quality surfers too, or should I say there NOT JUST HIT BOT TRAFFIC like half the other tgp's out there.

Use the old rule, if it an't broke don't fix it.

If his site is making him Millions a year why the hell would he change it???

Some funny animated gifs wouldn't hurt, plus a fancy flash intro.

Or make it look slick and professional like a paysite ...

Changing the whole site "every now and then" is another good idea. All successfull companies change their corporate identity every other week or?

:waaaaahh

Thanks Digifan, I was about to recant on the illegal part. I forgot the link to back it up.

:thumbsup

Thehun is pretty good still. If there is a site that needs a fucking overhaul it's thumbzila. That site is a lump of shit.

All kinds of little colorful text and banners at the top and all the galleries at the bottom. But, I'm probably looking at it from a webmaster standpoint and not from the surfers viewpoint.

slick and professional like a paysite eh?

Why not give money to the freeloaders as well? I mean, with the millions and millions and millions of pictures and videos for free, you are right. They have the right to view them on a TGP that will look EXACTLY like a professional paysite.

Sorry, but when I read that kind of comment from a webmaster, I just want to kick his ass.

It also says:
"The links themselves, as they merely represent a factual representation of the Internet addresses of pre-existing web sites, are not in and of themselves copyrightable."

You just cant cut and paste whole sections of a database, but theres nothing to stop you from compiling your own database from several different TGP's.

If it ain't broke... don't fix it.

Man Coca-Cola has had the same taste for , like, a hundred years. They should change the taste to keep drinkers interested.

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The Hun is the only TGP I enjoy surfing.

Yeah, New Coke was so successful.

I used to love thumbzilla back in the day it was my number 1 bookmark. :thumbsup

McDonald's is thinking of changing the taste of there burgers:2 cents:

But your point is taken and I do agree with you for the most part.

Back in the day, yea....and now?

They already stopped using real beef years ago, and they've sucked ever since.

JJJ's is an interesting site layout wise. But it's gone to shit too. There aren't any real links on the fucking page. They're all preferred submitters or blind link trades. My honest opinion.

When I first read this some time ago I thought it was amusing
http://screwthescrewers.com/

According to the Hun he won a lawsuit aginst a guy using his gallery links. This hardly means it is "illegal". Would another court reach the same decision on this matter if someone actually fought it? I doubt it very much. Courts vary so much in every country and the internet is all about the freedom to link to whatever you want to. Saying something is "illegal" because a civil court ruled in favor of the Hun is not true. Civil courts do not make laws.

If you want to link the Huns galleries, link them all you want. BUT the Hun has expressed that he does not want people doing this. So when he sources your server to ashes don't come crying here about it. Taking his galleries is disrepectfull and as far as he is concerned it is stealing from him. So why do it?

The Hun is probably the most respected TGP webmaster there is. TGP's that link his galleries I blacklist in all my programs. This is the same as TGP's that sign up for trades and have consoles when the rules clearly state no consoles. This is not illegal at all, but it breaks the rules. So forget the legal/illegal argument, just don't link his galleries. Show some respect to others.

The links endpoints themselves individually are not copyright protected, however the compilation of a group is copyright protected. There is established case law on this.

The Hun's design is magnificent in its simplicity, however he has left a HUGE amount of money on the table over the years without a doubt, by not expanding his site outward.

As to all the posts about if its not broke don't fix it, I counter that
with if its not broke, don't fix it, but always test it.

If you tread water you go nowhere in business. You must always be testing new potential profit centers. This is the key to growth and expansion of revenues and profit. Not saying to change the core of a site, but rather test some new things here and there.

Tweaking is essential in any marketing endeavor, and the Net is clearly all about marketing.

Just saw the post about the Hun being the most respected webmaster. Well I'll tell you all flat out in the beginning he was probably one of the most disliked operators in the biz because he was linking into everyones sites and costing people extreme bandwidth bills when bandwidth was more expensive. He never got permission from anyone to do it. You could find anti Hun posts on every webmaster board. Its funny how things changed and now he is indeed highly respected.

Unless there is a lot of business Thehun does online or offline that nobody knows about, other than his TGP, I would agree with you.

If you're #1, best thing to do is expand your business. Who knows, maybe he runs hotels and casinos on the side.

If not that, buy up your competition or funnel traffic into many other sites that you own. That's what Pierre of Worldsex does (he has an archive site, Absolute series, Zadina.com previously freetopsex, and even a rip off of Pinkword - http://www.linklist.com/). Mind you, all of his sites traffic eats cock.

But there are advertisers willing to pay for banner spots, so I suppose he's the winner in the end.

When I had to redo one of the biggest fetish tgps, these were the keywords.. Not only was it a time for a change, but about 1/3 less graphics are in the new design which should make the site load alot faster for those who are using dial-up services. This site uses a load of bandwidth, so it was also in the back of the editor's mind to make sure it exists many years down the road.

1) The pages on this site have to *fly*.... huge graphics are a complete *no-no*. You'll run off every visitor I have if they have to wait on ANYTHING so the new design was intended to give a fresh look, yet be less demanding on bandwidth.
The site needs to zoom even if it means taking away from my "creative efforts".

2) Simplicity....

3) Losing *all* of the text

4) Absolutely NO mouseovers that hide where a surfer is going to nor blind links.

Coca-Cola has changed several times my friend.
Classic Coke - Cherry Coke and just lately they started with some sort of blue shit. :)

Just thought I would point that out.

Pepsi is much better anyway. Hehehe...

Regards
NastyJack

True, the biggest change in Coke came when cocain became illegal. It may not have changed the flavour but it did change it's effects. I thought everybody was told that story in school?

Lol... That is the most interesting thing I've heard about TheHun to date. Man I have to tell you that I find that funny as hell. :)

Choker was just telling us that TheHun had sued someone for taking his links or something like that and all the while TheHun use to do the same thing. hehehe.... Good one!!! :)

Guess he never heard of the old saying - "Those who live in glass houses.... Huh!

Regards
NastyJack

If you had taken the time to read my reply, you would've realized that I was being sarcastic with the fact that this guy wanted to use a professional paysite approach for a TGP.

why?

I did take the time to read it and I agree with you 100% on what you were posting.

You are right.. You should be my advisor :thumbsup

I love the weekly Hun threads. :thumbsup

I don't think TGP owners understand how destructive lots of blind link trades are to their base of bookmarkers. Back in my porn surfing days there was nothing that'd turn me off of a TGP faster than hitting a blind link.

Maybe its just me..

I don't spemd lots of time on the hun but he makes his money from gallery posts as far as I can tell. So a fast loading site cuts his bandwidth bill which must be huge and keeps his surfers happy. He has a second site called the archive or something like that so he has expanded. But one of the keys of the web is you can "expand" and not change a damn thing. Just get more traffic and he seems pretty good at that as he is still growing.

from what i hear he makes over 100 grand a month on paid gallery spots... i think they guy knows what hes doing

No surfer will ever want to visit any of my pages twice, and I make more money than most TGP owners. The problem with new webmasters is they think like surfers. They make pages for people who DONT buy anything.

You should make them buy something, not give them free entertainment.

Ok hmm How can I put this.
You look at his site often I assume cause you realize it's the same design each time..
Now you are a wm "i think" which would make you actually look at the design and realize it's tierd...But the average joe assfuck who has bookmarked his site could careless of the design as long as as fast as he can or as long as it will stay up he can find that lil ass link to the fix he needs at the moment...
Get it? So why change or fix something that OBviously works.

:eyecrazy

Yep, its ironic, because webmasters usually have LONG memories. I was one of the few people who used to post supportive comments on the Hun. I felt it was a webmasters own fault for not better protecting his content. I used to tell webmasters just replace the content pics with sexy girl pics with your 900 numbers on it and you'll make bucks off the hotlinking he does.

Besides the obvious reasons of having a site surfers are familiar with, adding anything additional would shoot his transfer through the roof. Any little change he would make in his site would result in a transfer increase, unless of course he simplifies it more than it already is....and as we all know, or should know, more transfer = more money.

How many fucking times is someone gonna fucking say "if it ain't fucking broken, don't fucking fix it". JEEEEEZ! MORONS. :321GFY

The people saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" are rather funny. Look at all the large companies - every once in a while, they change their marketing techniques, just to keep up with the changing market.

Now, ofcourse the Hun will remain large and powerful for many years to come. That doesn't mean, however, that changes or additions wouldn't bring even more success.

The internet is changing every day, the amount of people connected to the internet increase rapidly, surfers are getting faster connections, more sites appear daily, etc.

Now, the main reason for the success of the hun not so much is his fabulous design, as it is his continuous bringing of quality galleries to the surfer, combined with very high userfriendliness. Being userfriendly, easy to navigate and high quality is not dependant on that particular design. So, a change of design may well please the surfer even more.

However, I do think that while the Hun could change his design, he would most likely be better off by adding niche sites instead.
What about, for instance, gayhun.com? Or hunvideo.com? I personally think that sites like those would help him greatly in keeping certain bookmarkers who might otherwise go to other sites eventually.

Pepsi sucks.

Why risk changing a site that paid for a million dollar home? It's just not worth the risk.