Those were the days (of business on this board)

[NETbilling]

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

[JFK]

Hello Mitch

[BIGTYMER]

A lot of good people got banned because of little bitches crying to the mods.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

There's still PLENTY of all of that. GFY is what you make of it, if you want to do business or have a question then you can find it here, just gotta look. Out of the all the forums I visit, GFY is probably the most entertaining and the most helpful at the same time. Any thread I have created asking a question has always been answered, any thread looking for sponsors I've always had answered. I've met some good people here too that give great advice. I have visited this forum looking to be entertained by the latest drama and ended up spotting some great posts giving advice or new opportunities. You just have to take initiative.

[LeRoy]

There's biz

[lucas131]

i have bought three scripts posted here for over 1500 usd, that is still some business to be made imho. but true not so much contest threads anymore

[TheSenator]

Haven't done business in this place in years.

It was good when I was referring people to new dating programs but that died.

[stocktrader23]

They banned people for having a "Go Fuck Yourself" attitude to pretty it up for Playboy.

They locked down registrations and made people contact an admin that never answered ICQ to post or even read the forums.

Half of the industry left because they swore "I will never do business with tube sites or anyone that does business with tube sites!" (See Steve Lightspeed)

Some old timers quit focusing on making money and instead decided to grrrrrr get even with those dirty porn leachers by suing them.

Some card bangers bought up a lot of good programs right at the peak then abused the fuck out of their customers and the webmasters that sent those customers.

The economy exploded a few different times sending many back to work.

Aside from a few programs are still doing the same things they were doing in 2004 even though the landscape is completely different. Adapt or die was never more fitting.

A surprising number of affiliates that have been here for years still have no understanding of how this industry works, even the basic stuff.

Epassporte probably squashed a lot of third world webmasters and definitely squashed a lot of those that chose to hide their cash for one reason or another.

Certain people attack those that are successful here to the point that they make entire threads unreadable, killing further discussion. P.M. especially loves doing this, see his lectures to Shap.

A couple of companies bought up a lot of programs taking a lot of 'important' figures out of the industry and off of the boards.

There's probably a few more reasons but I'm tired.

[FreeHugeMovies]

Tubes....

[Spunky]

People move on,always changing,it is adapt or die,dog eat dog out there

[BAKO]

Very true

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

They banned people for having a "Go Fuck Yourself" attitude to pretty it up for Playboy.

They locked down registrations and made people contact an admin that never answered ICQ to post or even read the forums.

Half of the industry left because they swore "I will never do business with tube sites or anyone that does business with tube sites!" (See Steve Lightspeed)

Some old timers quit focusing on making money and instead decided to grrrrrr get even with those dirty porn leachers by suing them.

Some card bangers bought up a lot of good programs right at the peak then abused the fuck out of their customers and the webmasters that sent those customers.

The economy exploded a few different times sending many back to work.

Aside from a few programs are still doing the same things they were doing in 2004 even though the landscape is completely different. Adapt or die was never more fitting.

A surprising number of affiliates that have been here for years still have no understanding of how this industry works, even the basic stuff.

Epassporte probably squashed a lot of third world webmasters and definitely squashed a lot of those that chose to hide their cash for one reason or another.

Certain people attack those that are successful here to the point that they make entire threads unreadable, killing further discussion. P.M. especially loves doing this, see his lectures to Shap.

A couple of companies bought up a lot of programs taking a lot of 'important' figures out of the industry and off of the boards.

There's probably a few more reasons but I'm tired.

Good summation.

.

[Iron Fist]

cross sales, new regulation just pushed them into a darker corner. Banging cards, tubes etc.

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Certain people attack those that are successful here to the point that they make entire threads unreadable, killing further discussion. P.M. especially loves doing this, see his lectures to Shap.

i am paging PM. must appear thread for him
anyway good summary.

[Kiwigirl]

Lots of good explanations here. Times have changed a lot that's for sure.
I use to surf the boards daily but now I find it more productive not too.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

i am paging PM. must appear thread for him
anyway good summary.

Thank you for the PM.

Plus people lie when trying to fling abuse, like stocktrader.

This board reflects the industry, it isn't anything else but a reflection of an industry changing. Most of the good guys have gone or going, many have to work hard. Leaving a few no no nick clowns.

[Lykos]

Good old days,i miss them !

[bns666]

it all went down with the tubes, who knows what else will go down with .xxx

[Jack Sparrow]

Fakenicks is what happend.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

xxx domains

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

They banned people for having a "Go Fuck Yourself" attitude to pretty it up for Playboy.

They locked down registrations and made people contact an admin that never answered ICQ to post or even read the forums.

Half of the industry left because they swore "I will never do business with tube sites or anyone that does business with tube sites!" (See Steve Lightspeed)

Some old timers quit focusing on making money and instead decided to grrrrrr get even with those dirty porn leachers by suing them.

Some card bangers bought up a lot of good programs right at the peak then abused the fuck out of their customers and the webmasters that sent those customers.

The economy exploded a few different times sending many back to work.

Aside from a few programs are still doing the same things they were doing in 2004 even though the landscape is completely different. Adapt or die was never more fitting.

A surprising number of affiliates that have been here for years still have no understanding of how this industry works, even the basic stuff.

Epassporte probably squashed a lot of third world webmasters and definitely squashed a lot of those that chose to hide their cash for one reason or another.

Certain people attack those that are successful here to the point that they make entire threads unreadable, killing further discussion. P.M. especially loves doing this, see his lectures to Shap.

A couple of companies bought up a lot of programs taking a lot of 'important' figures out of the industry and off of the boards.

There's probably a few more reasons but I'm tired.

what he said

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Fakenicks is what happend.

ya, like yourself.

[Paul]

Probably because half the threads have nothing to do with the adult industry, DVTimes etc posting unrelated news articles constantly

It gets tiresome having to weed through that amount of shit on a daily basis

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by Coatsy

Probably because half the threads have nothing to do with the adult industry, DVTimes etc posting unrelated news articles constantly

It gets tiresome having to weed through that amount of shit on a daily basis

A freaking men

[Shap]

Paul markham happened lol

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by Coatsy

Having to weed - shit...

I like weed... & Shit...

[Michael O]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

Well if you didn't jump on spamming any thread about any billing company posted here and instead act a little more professional then you might get more business.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

People are too busy posting what they are having for dinner on Facebook now...

[thehand]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

Mitch, you will have the opportunity to take all my money tonight... POKER!!!

See you guys @ 7.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Good old days,i miss them !

Me too!

Like when Lykos would respond to requests for quotes on ICQ so I could hire him for work.

Guess those days are gone too oh well






.

[PR_Glen]

webmaster board? i thought this was an end of the world/conspiracy board?

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

webmaster board? i thought this was an end of the world/conspiracy board?

To be honest I get to know a lot of mainstream news from GFY first, also there's opinions of experts about all the topics here from pussy to quantum phisics.
I agree it just miss the biz, but I do that with usual icq, skype and emails, and GFY just for gossip and Paul Markham.

[crash_jackson]

Originally Posted by Spunky

People move on,always changing,it is adapt or die,dog eat dog out there

agree... damn true..

[RuthB]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

Hi Mitch,
I would love to do some business with you. I'll pop you an email and hopefully we can go from there.
Thanks in advance!
Ruth

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

To be honest I get to know a lot of mainstream news from GFY first, also there's opinions of experts about all the topics here from pussy to quantum phisics.
I agree it just miss the biz, but I do that with usual icq, skype and emails, and GFY just for gossip and Paul Markham.

posting news stories is nothing new here and is hardly part of the problem.. constant posting of fear spreading propaganda and lunatic conspiracies ruins this place. There's less fear spreading in a church knitting circle as there is around here.

Mostly made up of people afraid of getting old though.

[JustJ]

Things are definitely different around here.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Fakenicks is what happend.

No shit - marco, eastwood, bro media and so on.
And ass clowns that always try to act like they belong here. That would be you, Pipo.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by Michael O

Well if you didn't jump on spamming any thread about any billing company posted here and instead act a little more professional then you might get more business.

I don't think Mitch needs to do much spamming. netbilling's processing fee is 4% whilst Zombaio's fee for new clients is 9.9% now (if I remember well) and Zombaio's fee for existing clients has almost doubled in the past year from 4.9% to 7.9% and I'm sure another unannounced raise is waiting or them around the corner, as a nice warm X-mas gift

Other card processors offer low rates around 4% as well. Those who think they can still charge 8% or more will all be out of business soon... call it suicide.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

Economical crisis and the porn market getting saturated. So most aren't making any money anymore but continue using this board to kill their boredom. The good thing about the piracy is that it gives the web porn biz the clean-out it needed for a very long time already. Only the strong survive.

[NETbilling]

Originally Posted by Michael O

Well if you didn't jump on spamming any thread about any billing company posted here and instead act a little more professional then you might get more business.

Lol - really? We are the largest merchant processor in this industry and you are a tool.

[NETbilling]

Originally Posted by thehand

Mitch, you will have the opportunity to take all my money tonight... POKER!!!

See you guys @ 7.

Good times tonight my friend!

[plsureking]

gfy now is like trying to have a team party after a losing season..
.

[SomeCreep]

Tube sites put 75% of webmasters and sponsors out of business.

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

I remember some time ago when this board was humming with opportunities, questions to be answered and business to be done.... what happened?

Mitch

Your voice mail should be humming with my husbands plea for a return phone call....Why your guys want to stick us for our paper??

we are talking about right and wrong here...not bulls shit risk department red tape which can be used to steal from hard working creative small biz owners...

You do see whats happening, and you have some obligation to help right the wrong

[seeric]

There was a time when I could launch a program and within 2-3 weeks have 1500 new affiliates sending me traffic. Those days are long gone. The times they have a changed Senor Farber.

[plsureking]

bump for netbilling to pay..

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

Your voice mail should be humming with my husbands plea for a return phone call....Why your guys want to stick us for our paper??

we are talking about right and wrong here...not bulls shit risk department red tape which can be used to steal from hard working creative small biz owners...

You do see whats happening, and you have some obligation to help right the wrong

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by seeric

There was a time when I could launch a program and within 2-3 weeks have 1500 new affiliates sending me traffic. Those days are long gone. The times they have a changed Senor Farber.

You're living in the past.

There were times when I could shoot a girl off a casting and make $6,000 clear for 30 minutes work. Those days are long gone. Killed by you being more worried about getting 1500 new affiliates, than keeping customers buying. By giving into 1500 new affiliates demanding so much free content they killed 90% of themselves.

People hate me for telling them the truth. I love that.

[Paul Markham]

With hindsight it's clear to see why online porn has declined as fast as it rose.

The rise was very much matched by the decline of offline porn sales. The claims that millions now could access porn who were previously denied was wrong. Those "previously denied" had magazines or were in countries where they could buy DVDs. What ever actual growth there was, wasn't what many claimed.

What ever we are all guessing.

The "millions" some claim to have made, were just tapping into an existing wealth. Do not look to the manufacturing end of porn for an idea of the porn market. Look at the retail end, the shops, the phone companies. Those serving the end user, not those serving the retail end.

Then the desire, by sponsors, of getting affiliates at all cost. Building a massive, expensive wall between the buyer and the seller. What ever affiliates demanded was seemingly given.

The lowering of standards of the product. Say what you like, few sites reach the top levels of porn. Most of it is churned out cheap rubbish. I'm talking the level that Perfect Gonzo was, Alsscan, Met Art, Party Hardcore. Mostly because no one was able to spend or would spend the money required.

The ease of getting into the online porn business. At the bottom all you needed was a computer and Internet connection. You wouldn't make a fortune, but you could be one of Eric's 1500 new affiliates demanding lots of free content to submit to TGP sites. The saturation of the supply side meant a smaller slice of the cake for everyone. The cake never grew as fast as was required to accommodate the growth of people wanting a slice out of it.

Scum were able to rise to the top. In all sorts of ways, cross billing, card banging, misleading tours, etc. And for everyone of them they had "1500" affiliates sending them traffic. To get a slice of the scam cake.

Then cheap BW. Was the nail in the coffin.

So now free is so much better than buying for our former customers. Yes Manwin may have 20, 40, 60 million hits a day. but it converts at the worse level ever. Because buyers have learned paying for porn is a mugs game.

Still a few more years to wring out a few more dollars and if you keep your costs very low. you'll be fine. Or if it's a part time job, fine.

But don't listen to me. Listen to the no nicks fools working from home.

[Thomas007]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

With hindsight it's clear to see why online porn has declined as fast as it rose.

The rise was very much matched by the decline of offline porn sales. The claims that millions now could access porn who were previously denied was wrong. Those "previously denied" had magazines or were in countries where they could buy DVDs. What ever actual growth there was, wasn't what many claimed.

What ever we are all guessing.

The "millions" some claim to have made, were just tapping into an existing wealth. Do not look to the manufacturing end of porn for an idea of the porn market. Look at the retail end, the shops, the phone companies. Those serving the end user, not those serving the retail end.

Then the desire, by sponsors, of getting affiliates at all cost. Building a massive, expensive wall between the buyer and the seller. What ever affiliates demanded was seemingly given.

The lowering of standards of the product. Say what you like, few sites reach the top levels of porn. Most of it is churned out cheap rubbish. I'm talking the level that Perfect Gonzo was, Alsscan, Met Art, Party Hardcore. Mostly because no one was able to spend or would spend the money required.

The ease of getting into the online porn business. At the bottom all you needed was a computer and Internet connection. You wouldn't make a fortune, but you could be one of Eric's 1500 new affiliates demanding lots of free content to submit to TGP sites. The saturation of the supply side meant a smaller slice of the cake for everyone. The cake never grew as fast as was required to accommodate the growth of people wanting a slice out of it.

Scum were able to rise to the top. In all sorts of ways, cross billing, card banging, misleading tours, etc. And for everyone of them they had "1500" affiliates sending them traffic. To get a slice of the scam cake.

Then cheap BW. Was the nail in the coffin.

So now free is so much better than buying for our former customers. Yes Manwin may have 20, 40, 60 million hits a day. but it converts at the worse level ever. Because buyers have learned paying for porn is a mugs game.

Still a few more years to wring out a few more dollars and if you keep your costs very low. you'll be fine. Or if it's a part time job, fine.

But don't listen to me. Listen to the no nicks fools working from home.

I think Paul is right.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Thomas007

I think Paul is right.

You do know that's an instant banning offense. Nice knowing you.