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Old 12-01-2011, 06:43 PM   #1
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Is it anyone's fault?

I'm new here and I really like this forum. I was surprised to see all the sorts of things people post on here. I have a question. Is it anyone's fault? Actually, is it anyone's fault that it's their fault? All of us have judgement limited to all we know and perceive. Our judgement in any situation is based on all we know and all we can perceive. If everyone could do everything right, know everything and have the best perception, why wouldn't they? The problem is that we're all limited to the amount of knowledge we have and how we perceive. There's this mentality people have where people blame people for things they do wrong or praise them for what they do right. There's always a genius people praise or a loser people kick or a murderer people hate but who wouldn't want to be that genius people praise? Who wouldn't want to be the best looking, flawless, smartest person in the world who has all of the answers and makes no mistakes? Everyone would love to be that person. So why don't we all just be that person? because we can't. There are so many contributing factors that have resulted in you being who you are in the situation you're in right this moment. Every little thing. I don't believe anyone on earth is truly responsible for their own success or failure in anyway. Why don't people really acknowledge this? If there's no predetermined fate then there wouldn't be personal interest or taste. There wouldn't be rich/poor. There wouldn't be limitations, no rules no order.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:46 PM   #2
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Not breaking the post into readable paragraphs is your fault.

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Old 12-01-2011, 06:46 PM   #3
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i read the first sentence and decided that i'd get more out of it all if i read it backwards

i believe it made more sense
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:51 PM   #4
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:53 PM   #5
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:57 PM   #6
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:03 PM   #7
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I know you were trying to make a point... Bravo! Making a point is welcome here and encouraged... but what point exactly were you trying to make?
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:07 PM   #8
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:08 PM   #9
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i read the first sentence and decided that i'd get more out of it all if i read it backwards

i believe it made more sense
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:27 PM   #10
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I know you were trying to make a point... Bravo! Making a point is welcome here and encouraged... but what point exactly were you trying to make?
I understand the point to be that it's not his fault. Crooks steal because they don't know any better. The people who ditched school and didn't graduate weren't CHOOSING short term fun over long term success, he's saying. They got fired because they were unlucky, not because they showed up an hour late for work, stoned out of their mind. Did I get that about right?

It seems to me we've known for thousands of years how to have a reasonably happy life. If you don't want to be like the people on the Jerry Springer show, don't fuck your next door neighbor's wife like they do.

Don't we all want to be successful, the OP asks. No, I don't want to be mega-successful, not financially, for example, because I don't want to pay the price. I do want to be very successful in my marriage, so I watch the people who have what I want and I do what they do. For that, I'm willing to pay the price.

If I decide I'm no longer willing to do what it takes to have a happy marriage, it IS my fault. More accurately, my decision. If I decide to make a million dollars I can study, study, study then spend 65 hours a week putting to work what I've learned. That's a decision I can make. If I decide to work only 25 hours per week, I won't have a lot of money, and that is my decision.

Most of the time, people who need the "it's not my fault" line made and continue to make short term decisions that cost them later. I know I do that sometimes. I also have the honesty to admit that I CHOSE to not show up to class two years into college at the age of 18. I decided to go smoke a bowl instead of going to class and that's why I don't work for RAND and I'm not a Google VP. Luck has nothing to do with it.

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