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Old 12-01-2011, 03:28 PM   #51
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50 students storming an embassy ...

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How sweet that you believe the propaganda version of history. The Vietnamese were fighting for the Independence from their imperial masters the French, then the Japanese. The US then supported the French. If it was a fight to stop communism spreading and you lost, by your logic communism should have spread.

You Military Intelligence on Iraq was not faulty - it was created to justify an illegal war.
There are even Hollywood films about how the White House faked it all up, hardly a secret for even the stupid. How they exposed a CIA agent, when her husband went the press about the lies being told.

It is illegal to start wars to overthrow people you dislike. (in this case Saddam who the US supported 90% of the time and helped bring to power )

With Iran it has been the West constant interference in the government of their country that has created the hatred of American policy by people in Iran and the whole of the Middle East.
You posted all that for DaddyHalfFucks ???? wow ...
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:35 PM   #52
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How sweet that you believe the propaganda version of history. The Vietnamese were fighting for the Independence from their imperial masters the French, then the Japanese. The US then supported the French. If it was a fight to stop communism spreading and you lost, by your logic communism should have spread.
I'm honestly not too fluent about Vietnam and haven't studied it. All that I can really tell you about is my father died there as a US Marine when I was nine months old.

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You Military Intelligence on Iraq was not faulty - it was created to justify an illegal war.
There are even Hollywood films about how the White House faked it all up, hardly a secret for even the stupid. How they exposed a CIA agent, when her husband went the press about the lies being told.

It is illegal to start wars to overthrow people you dislike. (in this case Saddam who the US supported 90% of the time and helped bring to power )

With Iran it has been the West constant interference in the government of their country that has created the hatred of American policy by people in Iran and the whole of the Middle East.
There is no such thing as an illegal war. When Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor, was it illegal? Of course not. "War is the continuation of policy by other means".
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:44 PM   #53
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Yeah, Gaddafi was threatening the world around him.

I guess all those Libyans I saw protesting and fighting in their revolution were really CIA agents?
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:53 PM   #54
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I guess all those Libyans I saw protesting and fighting in their revolution were really CIA agents?
That would be impossible , right ? Would be a first that CIA trains rebels/troops ( hint : South America ) ...

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US and Egyptian special forces have reportedly been providing covert training to rebel fighters in the battle for Libya, Al Jazeera has been told.

An unnamed rebel source related how he had undergone training in military techniques at a "secret facility" in eastern Libya.

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Just a question ... Do you think the CIA trained the mujihadeen in Afghanistan to fight against the big bad USSR ... ???
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:52 AM   #55
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There is no such thing as an illegal war. When Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor, was it illegal? Of course not. "War is the continuation of policy by other means".
There is, and that is why German and Japanese leaders were put on trial at the end of the 2WW war.

Article 2(4) of the UN Charter generally bans the use of force by states except when carefully circumscribed conditions are met.

As Noam Chomsky has stated, every US leader since the war would have been hanged for war crimes.

The problem is the US has a Veto in the UN. The Mafia boss runs the police.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:22 AM   #56
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