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				What converts better... Nats or CCBill?
			 
			What's converting better for you these days? Nats programs or CCBill? I've been having some bad luck with both of them but that is just me. I find CCBill sales come in more but at a much lower EPS. What about y'all? What ya like best? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Nats programs due to cascade and larger content availability.Days when ccbill converted better due to various content sponsors are long gone. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 CCBILL of course... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Porn is Dead. Move along. 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 ccbill is a fucking joke. the 1990s stats system is pathetic. porn is done 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 CCBILL, but 10 year worth of rebills gone   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Visa decides... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Ccbill has been 1:20k+ for me lately. Don't know wtf is going on. It's insane. My nats programs have been all over the map but no where even close to ccbill's ratios. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I better love NATS. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I received a sign up notification email from CCBill and it was a pretty nice sale: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Total price: $69.95 Commission Percentage: 50.00% Commission Amount: $34.98 I went to see the stats but I could not find the sale, it was not displayed in the stats so I contacted their support dept and asked them why it was not shown and this is their reply: I have taken a look at the subscription and also your affiliate account. While I was looking at the subscription I saw it read as a Failed Batch. A Failed Batch means At the time the subscription was created our processor was unavailable to complete the transaction so a subscription was created as if the transaction would be approved. These transactions are placed in a batch to be ran when the server is able to process again. This customer was then declined and is in the system now as a failed batch and an inactive subscription. This customer would have initially received a decline if our processor was available on the first attempt but because it was not, it was declined on the next attempt. I asked what was the reason he was declined: The consumer bank chose to not honor their card. For a more specific reason they would need to ask their bank. I wonder how many surfers have banks that do not want to honor their cards  | 
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		 It's really depends on the sites... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 according to my stats NATS and other autonomous back-ends have much bigger drop in sales for 2011 than CCBill, which performs pretty stable for me over the year 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 nats sites that are not using ccbill might do well. but if your compare nats sites using ccbill then its going to be the same 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Someone's pocket, just not mine  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Neither, Custom. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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