Neutrino experiment repeat at Cern finds same result

[DVTimes]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236

[cherrylula]

love science!

[adultsitecms]

What if we can finally harness neutrinos' power and have faster-than-light travel. Awesome!

[Waiter]

that is very interesting news ...

[Overload]

nice! i had posted when they first announced this "break-thru" ... good to see they were able to reproduce this

[Choopa Phil]

Cool article, thanks for sharing!

[DarkPeter]

Originally Posted by adultsitecms

What if we can finally harness neutrinos' power and have faster-than-light travel. Awesome!

Unfortunately if i count well they travel just around 0.01% faster than light and you must not have any significant weight and electric charge (it means no electron, proton, atom, molecule and anything other we consists of). So i do not see any exact use for our traveling there. But surely it might be important for theoretical physics and bring some revolution there.

[MoreMagic]

They are idiots.

[suesheboy]

Caused by either dark mater/energy or hyperdimentional physics (first proposed in the 1800s).

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by DarkPeter

Unfortunately if i count well they travel just around 0.01% faster than light and you must not have any significant weight and electric charge (it means no electron, proton, atom, molecule and anything other we consists of). So i do not see any exact use for our traveling there. But surely it might be important for theoretical physics and bring some revolution there.

You are way off in your decimal point.

By the way light photons in argon gas travel faster than conventional light. What makes this interesting is it is in argon gas and in space (total vacuum) dark maters effects are seen but dark mater not observed.

[Chosen]

Cool

[Iron Mike]

the answer is 12

[Iron Mike]

4+8=?

oh wait!

[raymor]

It occurs to me that if in fact neutrinos do go 1.000025 times the speed of photons after compensating for gravitational curving as the particle falls and the angular momentum induced by the earth, that may not mean anything, really. Light travels at different speeds through different materials. We have thought that C was the speed of light (photons) in a vacuum. Maybe C is actually the speed of neutrinos, not photons, so it's 0.00025 times faster. That doesn't change E=MC2. It only means that C is a tiny but faster than we thought.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by adultsitecms

What if we can finally harness neutrinos' power and have faster-than-light travel. Awesome!

Neutrinos have no mass, and are so small that they can pass through miles of lead without hitting a single atom. It might be too hard to use Neutrinos for anything practical.

[2MuchMark]

By the way, there is a really cool serious on PBS called "The Fabric of the Cosmos", hosted by David Greene. Tonight's episode was all about Quantum Theory. Excellent show. There's another one called "Into the wormhole" hosted by Morgan Freemon which is also pretty good. I love PBS.

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by **********

Neutrinos have no mass, and are so small that they can pass through miles of lead without hitting a single atom. It might be too hard to use Neutrinos for anything practical.

Neutrinos do have a little mass and I'm not sure if we'll ever use them either but can you imagine what people thought of electrons just 200-300 years ago? Now electrons are our bitch.

[margarita]

Originally Posted by raymor

It occurs to me that if in fact neutrinos do go 1.000025 times the speed of photons after compensating for gravitational curving as the particle falls and the angular momentum induced by the earth, that may not mean anything, really. Light travels at different speeds through different materials. We have thought that C was the speed of light (photons) in a vacuum. Maybe C is actually the speed of neutrinos, not photons, so it's 0.00025 times faster. That doesn't change E=MC2. It only means that C is a tiny but faster than we thought.

it could be good explanation, but I don't know what precision of current C we have (or we think we have)

[OY]

Originally Posted by raymor

It occurs to me that if in fact neutrinos do go 1.000025 times the speed of photons after compensating for gravitational curving as the particle falls and the angular momentum induced by the earth, that may not mean anything, really. Light travels at different speeds through different materials. We have thought that C was the speed of light (photons) in a vacuum. Maybe C is actually the speed of neutrinos, not photons, so it's 0.00025 times faster. That doesn't change E=MC2. It only means that C is a tiny but faster than we thought.

You just freaked me out Raymor. Thanks. Doh!

[Jack Sparrow]

I said it before, but what if they do not travel faster then light, but make use of multidimensions to get from a->b.

THAT would be interesting!

[DamianJ]

Fuck off DVTimes you scamming lying cuntbag.

[theking]

I suspect that ultimately it will be learned that there is a miscalculation.

[Coup]

Shoot your hot Neutrinos all over my tits

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by raymor

It occurs to me that if in fact neutrinos do go 1.000025 times the speed of photons after compensating for gravitational curving as the particle falls and the angular momentum induced by the earth, that may not mean anything, really. Light travels at different speeds through different materials. We have thought that C was the speed of light (photons) in a vacuum. Maybe C is actually the speed of neutrinos, not photons, so it's 0.00025 times faster. That doesn't change E=MC2. It only means that C is a tiny but faster than we thought.

If neutrino is faster than light then C is neutrino speed not light speed, but don't forget there's up t oa dozen dimensions and no clue where gravity comes from so we know very little still of quantum phisics et all. Actually I think we know 30% only of subatomic stuff.

[adultmobile]

By the way I find more cool another experiment published recently, the "creation" of matter (photons) from empty vacuum i.e. from nothing and nowhere, stuff can popup and keep alive, like magicians, gods or star trek:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1118133050.htm
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/1106....2011.346.html

The real stuff with the math is there:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.0178v1

[adultmobile]

This to build the creation machine:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1105.4714v1

Basically the empty space is simply cobntinuous "creation" of matter+antimatter couple of particles that exist and annihilate (destroy in couples) continuously, so you see nothing. If you can avoid them to collide and annihilate, so if you kick one of the 2 for example to go away, these matter pieces would theorically keep in existence since not annihilated as normally planned by quantum theory. There are a few dimensions so I am unsure we can talk of creation, could be simply they change dimension so creation and annihilation is relative to this our dimension only, but what we do know? Very little.

[alias]

Neutrinos fuck yeah.