Selling mobile traffic (Plugrush / JuicyAds)

[fuckyou/payme]

Is it worth selling mobile traffic? I don't have anything specifically designed for mobile... I notice on plugrush 90% of the income comes from mobile redirections and a diddly 8-10% from actual clicked thumbs...

[TrustCash]

Gay mobile content is supposedly earning some good money. Go check them out in gay webmaster boards.

[epitome]

Why you no longer going by chroniq?

[fuckyou/payme]

Originally Posted by epitome

Why you no longer going by chroniq?

changed the pw to something random then a couple weeks later I hired a few writers and bought a few websites, which I needed an account for

This thread is a great example for leaving, can't get a relevant response

[Lace]

The weather here has been cold and rainy today. I hope we get a few more warmer days before Winter.

[garce]

I'm finding it is rapidly becoming pointless to sell or redirect mobile traffic. Very soon most phones, (except maybe Apple because they're just dicks who cry if you don't follow their rules) will render pretty well every website just fine.

I know Android displays my sites almost perfectly, and has no trouble displaying my sponsor sites. Won't be long till it doesn't matter what device you have. The internet will be rendered.

I see the monthly subscription model taking a hit. I can see mobile sites having great success with micro-payments. Buy this movie - 99 cents will be charged to your phone.

My cable company offers porn movies on PPV for between $7 and $11 (eleven bucks for On Demand). Mobile videos will have to sell for 50 to 99 cents a pop.

Thread too long already...

[looky_lou]

If you have general traffic like TGPs MGPs etc., it might be worth selling the re-directs through Juicy Ads. I have never directed my mobile traffic to a mobile sponsor so I don't have a comparison.

This month so far I am earning $0.47 per 1,000 unique visits to my TGPs. That is all unique visitors, not mobile visits. The rate per mobile re-direct varies day to day and this is my average for the 20 days so far this month.

Example: If you are getting 50,000 unique visits per day to your sites, you will earn about $23.50 per day on Juicy Ads re-directs.

[epitome]

If you want a serious answer, I don't sell it, I redirect it as the ratios are better on mobile than desktop for me. Everybody is different though. I do rotate between mobile sponsors now though.

[porno jew]

i just redirect mine to fleshlight. made a few sales.

[looky_lou]

Originally Posted by epitome

If you want a serious answer, I don't sell it, I redirect it as the ratios are better on mobile than desktop for me. Everybody is different though. I do rotate between mobile sponsors now though.

What kind of earnings do you get on your traffic, per 1,000 unique visitors (all visits, not mobile visits) to your sites?

What kind of traffic to you have? TGPs? MGPs? Blogs? Tubes?

What are some good mobile sponsors to convert general skim TGP traffic?

[marzzo]

Originally Posted by garce

My cable company offers porn movies on PPV for between $7 and $11 (eleven bucks for On Demand). Mobile videos will have to sell for 50 to 99 cents a pop.

And that's a one-time fee to view a movie ONCE, or a 24-hour rental?

[Markul]

Originally Posted by fuckyou/payme

Is it worth selling mobile traffic? I don't have anything specifically designed for mobile... I notice on plugrush 90% of the income comes from mobile redirections and a diddly 8-10% from actual clicked thumbs...

I redirect all non-US to my own mobile whitelabel from a provider that can actually bill the mobile visitor with micropayments. US traffic I'm still testing with, but so far, plugrush is a pretty good place to send it imo.

[Sarah - GTS]

I would be happy to discuss this with you please hit me up on icq anytime

[Sly]

The best answer to your question is not fun or sexy. It's actually very boring and realistic: it really depends on what your traffic source is. "Mobile traffic" is really just people on their phones visiting sites. It's not a niche or a specific demographic, it's as if you were saying "Mac traffic" or "Windows Vista traffic." So it needs to be broken down further because every source is going to have different results.

Clicked review mobile traffic does very well with sponsors. TGP/MGP/tube mobile redirect traffic can be hit or miss with sponsors, some sites do very very well while others do very poorly. Paysite mobile redirect typically does well with sponsors. Clicked gallery/site mobile traffic will do well with sponsors because it's pre-filtered. The list goes on and on.

My advice is this:
If you don't have time to do testing, sell your traffic to a sponsor or someone like JuicyAds and let them figure out. If you do have time, test out multiple sponsors and their various white label setups. Or better yet, go with a "portal style" mobile landing page and give your mobile surfers options instead of throwing them at a site that they may not want.

Feel free to ICQ me at 147479144 with any questions.

[Wizzo]

Mobile traffic is ever increasing and in many cases starting to become the majority of traffic for some sites, so to disregard or not doing anything with it IMO is a big waste.

[BareBacked]

I think its really a pain in the ass to enter a CC on a phone.
I had alot more hope for my new mobile tour http://mobile.barebacked.com/

Doing way better with mobile in the mainstream side

[troncarver]

Originally Posted by garce

I'm finding it is rapidly becoming pointless to sell or redirect mobile traffic. Very soon most phones, (except maybe Apple because they're just dicks who cry if you don't follow their rules) will render pretty well every website just fine.

I know Android displays my sites almost perfectly, and has no trouble displaying my sponsor sites. Won't be long till it doesn't matter what device you have. The internet will be rendered.

I see the monthly subscription model taking a hit. I can see mobile sites having great success with micro-payments. Buy this movie - 99 cents will be charged to your phone.

My cable company offers porn movies on PPV for between $7 and $11 (eleven bucks for On Demand). Mobile videos will have to sell for 50 to 99 cents a pop.

Thread too long already...

im glad there is retards like you in the industry

[DVTimes]

i set up a small site this week.

www.gazeat.com

i direct my mobile to that.

its very basic.

[porno jew]

blindly redirecting it to some random white label is the stupidest thing you can do. say you go to some porn blog every day, like hottystop. one day you check it on your ipad and it keeps sending you to some mobile white label with those shitty non-exclusive clips from the 80s. how is that for user experience? going to get a sale from that?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

i set up a small site this week.

www.gazeat.com

i direct my mobile to that.

its very basic.

The concept is good but why are you trading traffic with non-mobile sites and listing non-mobile galleries?

[porno jew]

because divvy is very slow.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Sly

The concept is good but why are you trading traffic with non-mobile sites and listing non-mobile galleries?

try it on your mobile.

those galleries auto change to phone ones when you use a phone.

so even people not using a phone can see them.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

try it on your mobile.

those galleries auto change to phone ones when you use a phone.

so even people not using a phone can see them.

Ah, I thought of that possibility.

The trading?

[Sly]

Oh I have mobile galleries for you as well, feel free to contact me and I will set you up.

[DVTimes]

The problem I find at the moment is some fhg and mobile sites are too wide, or the films do not play on your phone.

Its all well saying they work on the latest iphone, but not everyone uses an iphone.

the other problem is payment. we need it so people can opt to press a button and payment is charged to the mobile phone. having to type in credit card info is rather silly.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Sly

Ah, I thought of that possibility.

The trading?

i have not yet found any mobile sites to trade with.

that said many tgp and free sites have people use mobile phones, so your bound to get a lot of mobile phone users from non mobile sites. plus even if you use a pc, you can still see the content. as you pointed out a lot of galleries work normaly full size on a pc.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Sly

Oh I have mobile galleries for you as well, feel free to contact me and I will set you up.

email sent

[DVTimes]

There clearly is going to be a huge market for anyone who sets up real mobile billing solution. ie, click a button and payment is taken on your phone bill.

[DVTimes]

I have seen some BAD setups for mobile porn sites.

I have seen some setup blogs. I tested them in my phone and many did not load or took ages.

I found sexronix has lots of mobile fhg, but for some reason there .mp4 files did not play on my phone yet there mobile sites the .mp4 films worked perfect. I have contacted them about this and they said it could be my softwear is not up to date. Though other mobile sites have played films fine.

I like the promo on the nakednews mobile site.

I do think also pay per clip may be a good idea too (also cost charged to your phone).

The downside of course is that in 2 years time all the clips will be uploaded to lots of saites and sales will die.

[DVTimes]

but as far as the qustion go, why not send your traffic to a mobile pay site.

after all so far there seems to be only a few, and i suspect those who buy your traffic are simply going to send it to them anyway. You may as well have a bit of fun seeing if you can get sales from it.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

I think its really a pain in the ass to enter a CC on a phone.
I had alot more hope for my new mobile tour http://mobile.barebacked.com/

Doing way better with mobile in the mainstream side

just had a quick look at that site (online, not on my mobile).

may i sugest you add sample .mp4 clips.

I think that may help.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

just had a quick look at that site (online, not on my mobile).

may i sugest you add sample .mp4 clips.

I think that may help.

Thanks for the input. I was hesitant to add "trailers" due to the download speeds on mobile devices.
I will give it a shot and see if it helps..

My biggest guess is that the join process is just to much of a pain in the ass.

The site is working out great for barebacked.com members as a bonus but joins to this site are hurting

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

Thanks for the input. I was hesitant to add "trailers" due to the download speeds on mobile devices.
I will give it a shot and see if it helps..

My biggest guess is that the join process is just to much of a pain in the ass.

The site is working out great for barebacked.com members as a bonus but joins to this site are hurting

you only need short sample clips, plus .mp4 fils are not big, so should download quick.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

Thanks for the input. I was hesitant to add "trailers" due to the download speeds on mobile devices.
I will give it a shot and see if it helps..

My biggest guess is that the join process is just to much of a pain in the ass.

The site is working out great for barebacked.com members as a bonus but joins to this site are hurting

i tried your site on my mobile.

i found it too wide to fit on the screen.

ps

i went on to m.gfy.com and it works jolly well.

[tigermtb]

We're managing millions of mobile redirects monthly and our clients are fairly happy. If they aren't happy .. we make them happy. Still in Beta.

Many clients say that we're paying more than their previous deal.
Its hard to ignore sometimes $90 to $120+ per 1000 redirects!

I think when it comes to mobile traffic, you're better off to capitalize on it than sit and wait. Sure, the time may come when it becomes redundant, loses value .. but until then.. come and ride the train with us. if you're not working with us, you should try it .. I for one didn't do anything with my mobile traffic for a long time .. I regretted waiting.

Even with Popunders.. that's technology thats been on its deathbed for years, but its still popular, profitable, and annoying.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

i tried your site on my mobile.

i found it too wide to fit on the screen.

ps

i went on to m.gfy.com and it works jolly well.

What kinda device are you on?
Its made for iphone and supposed to work on droids too
Im only hammering it with iphone traffix now

[Imortyl Pussycat]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

There clearly is going to be a huge market for anyone who sets up real mobile billing solution. ie, click a button and payment is taken on your phone bill.

quoted for truth. having billing in place that actually works in every country and is simple for the surfer is key

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

quoted for truth. having billing in place that actually works in every country and is simple for the surfer is key

We have seen in such as japan people being abel to buy stuff from vending machines using a mobile, so i should not see why this would be different.

in fact it could be safer than using a credit card.

would it not be great if such as ccbill could do this.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

What kinda device are you on?
Its made for iphone and supposed to work on droids too
Im only hammering it with iphone traffix now

i use a t-mobile phone.

i have seen some sites that change the size to fit the phone perfect.

but if not, i would opt for a thiner screen.

it will work (i suspect) on any site. the problem is i have to move accross to see the full screen. its much better if i see it in one go. but thats just my thought.

i have seen some pro sites use the same size as your using. i think its best to be at a stage all phones are ok using it.

its just that not everyone uses an iphone.

but its just a thought.

[Adam X]

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

quoted for truth. having billing in place that actually works in every country and is simple for the surfer is key

You don't think every billing company and/or entrepreneur is aware of it..
the roadblock is within the phone companies.

The telco's need to wake up and see how well its working in Europe and allow SMS third-party billing for more than micro-payments up to $10.

Just text PORN to 12345 and you'll see a charge for $3.95 on your phone bill with $24.95 a month recurring.... if anyone is aware of a service allowing worldwide billing like this, kindly share...

[Imortyl Pussycat]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

We have seen in such as japan people being abel to buy stuff from vending machines using a mobile, so i should not see why this would be different.

in fact it could be safer than using a credit card.

would it not be great if such as ccbill could do this.

exactly the point....the US is such a baby in the mobile phone game. UK companies have it better dialed as do the japanese. many of the companies here in the US do have the billing systems in place to get the conversions they hope for. we will catch up and finally make the killing off it that other countries have.

[Imortyl Pussycat]

Originally Posted by Adam X

The telco's need to wake up and see how well its working in Europe and allow SMS third-party billing for more than micro-payments up to $10.

Just text PORN to 12345 and you'll see a charge for $3.95 on your phone bill with $24.95 a month recurring.... if anyone is aware of a service allowing worldwide billing like this, kindly share...

on the money ^^^^^. we are behind in approvals for medical treatments and drugs that save lives as well. what is it about the US that makes us the last to the party when everyone else is full of cake and champagne? that's a thread for another day

[benk81]

Quite an interesting thread this :-) although surprised nobody has mentioned us at Reporo as yet - perhaps our ads are not being seen!!!! :-(

Originally Posted by garce

I know Android displays my sites almost perfectly, and has no trouble displaying my sponsor sites. Won't be long till it doesn't matter what device you have. The internet will be rendered.

Thread too long already...

Im not sure about which sites you have. TGP's generally seem to work quite well on a mobile device but what is the destination of any image clicks? If the destination url is not rendered for a mobile device then what is the point if you are only extending the poor journey for a user? in most cases, links are hard to see, videos impossible to view, ads click either doesnt work or goes to another non optimized site.
All of which = money left on the table in my opinion.

Also, clearly your sites do not work on older "dumb" phones but these make up on average 6-9% of the mobile volume. however if you know how to make money from it, this can make up 30% of the revenues. If you want to redirect this traffic il ltake it all day long in every country in the world! ;-)

Originally Posted by looky_lou

This month so far I am earning $0.47 per 1,000 unique visits to my TGPs. That is all unique visitors, not mobile visits. The rate per mobile re-direct varies day to day and this is my average for the 20 days so far this month.
Example: If you are getting 50,000 unique visits per day to your sites, you will earn about $23.50 per day on Juicy Ads re-directs.

this 50k for $23 is quite subjective as quite rightly outlined below, the source of this traffic is very important as is billing. 50k iphone users connected by 3g in Germany versus 50k iphone users connected by wifi in the same country, the value is maybe 30 times higher per redirected user.
either way, if you want to trial with Reporo, we might be able to improve on that figure depending on the traffic geos.

Originally Posted by looky_lou

What are some good mobile sponsors to convert general skim TGP traffic?

There are a bunch out there who can eb found easily by searching the GFY threads. as many have outlined below you are looking for a partner with a one click billing solution in place for those connected via 3g not wifi. Top Bucks offer a pretty good product as they have done a lot fo this work already and have the deals in place with many others. not sure if theyd work with skimmed traffic or not though.

Originally Posted by Adam X

You don't think every billing company and/or entrepreneur is aware of it..
the roadblock is within the phone companies.

The telco's need to wake up and see how well its working in Europe and allow SMS third-party billing for more than micro-payments up to $10.

Just text PORN to 12345 and you'll see a charge for $3.95 on your phone bill with $24.95 a month recurring.... if anyone is aware of a service allowing worldwide billing like this, kindly share...

The snag with this is that the regulations set (even in EU) by the operators dictate that only certain levels of content can be billed via them such as bikini level only in some countries, and the most rotten of niches are available in others. how could one police the content level if some new mobile billing company was being abused by a WM selling content harder than permitted by the operator in that country?