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Old 10-21-2011, 10:09 AM   #1
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Breaking News: Obama to announce full withdrawal from Iraq

From USA Today, 4 min ago

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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/21...end/?hpt=hp_c1

"Of the 39,000 troops in Iraq, only about 150, a negligible force, will remain to assist in arms sales." >> till the end of the year.

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Old 10-21-2011, 10:12 AM   #2
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They're gonna redraw the borders of Iraq so that US bases are no longer officially inside Iraq?

Oh wait, they already did something similar when they supposedly withdrew from major cities...
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"Obama to announce full withdrawal from Iraq" for direct shipment to Iran.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:17 AM   #4
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Smart move politically, they have been waiting to announce this for 6 months but had to wait until Gadhafi was either killed or captured. After all he has to do something to drum up support for his failed presidency and what better way than to take credit for killing Gadhafi one day and announcing the troop withdraw from Bushs Iraq cluster fuck the next day.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:18 AM   #5
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I was not aware Obama is part of adult industry :D
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Let's pray that Iraq does not backslide.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:20 AM   #7
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They're gonna redraw the borders of Iraq so that US bases are no longer officially inside Iraq?

Oh wait, they already did something similar when they supposedly withdrew from major cities...
trickery of the words

people will still expect all the troops to come home, that wont happen
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Well, they should be able to stand up on their own by now ...

When do we start getting oil cheap in trade for the war debt we are stuck with???
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I wonder what's the motive of this move. I smell something fishy again!
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:26 AM   #10
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I wonder what's the motive of this move. I smell something fishy again!
really doesn't matter as long as they come home. and in his words they will be home. so no moving of troops to other countries or anything like that. Less than 150 will remain.

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But the current Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq dictates the U.S. troops leave by year's end, and the United States and Iraq had been unable to come to an agreement on key issues regarding legal immunity for U.S. troops who would remain in Iraq, effectively ending discussion of maintaining a significant American force presence beyond 2011.
This is key.
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Breaking News: Obama to announce he's not as lame as everyone says he is!
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No way ...
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U.S. President Barack Obama is expected to make a statement about Iraq around 12:45 p.m. Friday, according to a White House official.
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I'm not saying that because of this thread, but just in general.
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this means that the bombing of Iran is a near certainty
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Perhaps he set up an "Iraq withdrawal Trigger", like a stop-loss sell order. When his popularity got down to a certain level, then it triggers, and he pop this out!



Either way, I hope it's true.



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Old 10-21-2011, 10:40 AM   #21
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Yawn.

1) They are going to need troops in Iran soon.

2) Everyone fails to mention the insane amount of private military contractors (mercenaries) working in Iraq, and as troops pull out, they bring in more mercenaries.

3) He's going to pull out every stop he can while trying to get reelected.
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FYI - Here's a good book written by an Iraq vet friend of mine.

http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Ghosts...dp/B0017I0KWC/
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hmmm...i dont think it will happen

it has already been said that doing so is sort of like declaring war on the world.

you go in and mess stuff up...you are stuck there for the long haul
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So they're completely withdrawing all regular military and moving to a fully privatized blackwater style mercenary army? Or did I misread that?
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I wonder if they will just increase the number of privateers.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:59 AM   #27
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I wonder if they will just increase the number of privateers.
Sounds like great minds think alike. Good news for our troops and their families, bad news for Iraq when they realize that we were actually trying to help them, hope they can learn to speak Persian quickly, I don't think they have the infrastructure to keep them being invaded by Iran.
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Wasn't that always the plan Bush had?
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We have to stay behind and do arm sales so they are a threat again in 10 years after another dictator takes over.
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You don't get credit for an idea. You only get it if you successfully execute it.
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this means that SYria is next to be attcked and conquered
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"Of the 39,000 troops in Iraq, only about 150, a negligible force, will remain to assist in arms sales." >> till the end of the year.
he prepare way for 2012, smart move...
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Strange, Bush still gets the blame for Obama's failed economic policies. I guess the double standards are out in the open now.
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One day you will learn that the policies set by presidents are usually not immediately felt.
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Wasn't that always the plan Bush had?
I remember Bush saying "The Democrats goal is to get out of Iraq. The Republican goal is to win in Iraq."

He was pretty strong headed on making sure we stay the course, even after the election. However he did, more than once, pull troops from Iraq, some home and others to Afghan. But after Obama was elected, Iraq started to demand a time-line to get U.S. forces out... because Bush didn't create one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110601189.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_164801.html
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Iran invades Iraq, spreading the Iranian forces thin.

Iraq neighbors help out minimally, spreading the Iranian forces thinner.

American forces attack Iran from the East in Afghanistan, we have had 10 years of mountain training!

Naval forces attack from the South as Iran's Navy is on Iraq's border.

American forces head to Iraq from the West and South (Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia) to beat down wounded Iranian army.

At Iran's bidding, Syria tries to play cute and unleashes Hezbollah and Hamas. Turkey becomes concerned while Israel has a field day. Meanwhile, CIA equips Syrians to take on their government.

Sounds like fun!
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Iran nukes Israel.

Everybody wins.
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He previously announced July 2009 and then in April of 2010 he said we'd be out by August. Should we take him seriously the third or fourth time he announces a different date?
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It's going to be Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome up in that bitch.

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They're gonna redraw the borders of Iraq so that US bases are no longer officially inside Iraq?

Oh wait, they already did something similar when they supposedly withdrew from major cities...
Embassies in all countries are considered soil of the country that occupies it. We made a really big one in Iraq, so I'm pretty sure there will be troops left there but that's pretty common of anywhere.
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I remember Bush saying "The Democrats goal is to get out of Iraq. The Republican goal is to win in Iraq."

He was pretty strong headed on making sure we stay the course, even after the election. However he did, more than once, pull troops from Iraq, some home and others to Afghan. But after Obama was elected, Iraq started to demand a time-line to get U.S. forces out... because Bush didn't create one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110601189.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_164801.html

The democrats wanted out of Iraq because they know we should of never been there in the first place. Democrats wanted to focus on Afghan and win Afghan because that were the root of the terrorism issue was at that time.


Republicans wanted to make a show of Afghan but Bush & co really wanted to invade Iraq. We got trumped up BS from them as a reason to invade and then it was mission accomplished as nearly 10 years later as it's pretty much just as fucked as when we started.

Bush & co may have wanted to win Iraq, but they didn't do it. Instead they got us into a fucked position and also allowed the war in Afghan to go to shit allowing the tangos to spread their network around the world with greater support.

Yey go Republicans they are awesome with wars and getting our troops killed while having little to no plan on what they are doing or how to accomplish it.

Simple fact is Republicans are big on talking and little on action or following it through.

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Definitely looks like it's time for Iran, but first there must be a nasty event to blame on them, more nasty than an alledged assassination plot, they have to make sure we look like the good guys going in to save the day. I wonder what's planned
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hmmm...i dont think it will happen

it has already been said that doing so is sort of like declaring war on the world.

you go in and mess stuff up...you are stuck there for the long haul
how do you mean?
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Definitely looks like it's time for Iran, but first there must be a nasty event to blame on them, more nasty than an alledged assassination plot, they have to make sure we look like the good guys going in to save the day. I wonder what's planned
Maybe avoiding airplanes would be good decision in incoming period?
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When your approval ratings are at the lowest of the low... time to start making some popular announcements.
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