He previously announced July 2009 and then in April of 2010 he said we'd be out by August. Should we take him seriously the third or fourth time he announces a different date?

It's going to be Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome up in that bitch.

Actually, it already is.

Embassies in all countries are considered soil of the country that occupies it. We made a really big one in Iraq, so I'm pretty sure there will be troops left there but that's pretty common of anywhere.

remember the guantanamo promise ...

The democrats wanted out of Iraq because they know we should of never been there in the first place. Democrats wanted to focus on Afghan and win Afghan because that were the root of the terrorism issue was at that time.


Republicans wanted to make a show of Afghan but Bush & co really wanted to invade Iraq. We got trumped up BS from them as a reason to invade and then it was mission accomplished as nearly 10 years later as it's pretty much just as fucked as when we started.

Bush & co may have wanted to win Iraq, but they didn't do it. Instead they got us into a fucked position and also allowed the war in Afghan to go to shit allowing the tangos to spread their network around the world with greater support.

Yey go Republicans they are awesome with wars and getting our troops killed while having little to no plan on what they are doing or how to accomplish it.

Simple fact is Republicans are big on talking and little on action or following it through.

Definitely looks like it's time for Iran, but first there must be a nasty event to blame on them, more nasty than an alledged assassination plot, they have to make sure we look like the good guys going in to save the day. I wonder what's planned

how do you mean?

Maybe avoiding airplanes would be good decision in incoming period?

When your approval ratings are at the lowest of the low... time to start making some popular announcements.

Now if he would only announce the government's full withdrawal from the country's economic anal tract.

Okay that's 1 country.

Are they going to withdraw our troops from the other 140 countries we have bases in?

No?

Rest of the world still gonna hate us then. (and we're still going to go bankrupt)

For a war with Iran they need something which can sound pretty scary, a psychological attack on our minds. Planes are good, but risky to pull off. Bio-attack's fit the bill, as do attacks on Western soil. That is unless they can start up stories that Iran is attacking it's own people, but that would be more difficult with Iran as China and Russia will veto any propsed UN resolutions.

By following the scent of recent propaganda it's clear that attacks on Syria and Iran are not far off.

Tell me just one good thing republicans have done for this country in the past 20 years.

:::facepalm:::

:::stepDadsSpermBreath:::

Too bad there's not a Nobel Prize for escalating Predator Drone attacks on villages in Pakistan! Very peaceful. He's only killed 1500 people that way. Kinda peaceful when you think about it.

I'm sure in Khadaffi's last moments he was thinking "Obama is a peaceful guy"

Many Guantanamo prisoners right now praising his peace, for sure.

Cost to remove Gadhafi.....1 billion dollars 0 American casualties.

Cost to remove Saddam.... 800 billion dollars 4,300 American casualties, 30,000 wounded.

The powers that be seem to believe that they can tell us whatever they like, no matter how far from reality, and we will believe what we are told. There are a lot of do put their trust in authority rather than evidence, so it does work to an extent. :2 cents:

As a moron, it's no wonder you didn't include data on Obama's war in the Middle East, just a 1 time command drone that was lucky enough to hit a target where Gaddafi happened to be. Oh wait, that was the French and the British. Owned again, jackass.:1orglaugh

Again with this "I'm enlightened and unique and everyone else is a sheep" hilarity. You claim the other side puts their full faith in what is being reported while idiotic mentalities such as this are on the other side of the spectrum in extremities.

What? No one can understand what you're saying with your step daddys sperm gurgling from your mouth. Please try again once you are composed.

Not at all, I don't believe many would vote for Obama to win the Nobel Peace Prize, just a few non-thinkers :2 cents:

I don't know what that means.

But... to your point earlier with the image...

Either he is:
1) A peaceful guy trying to heal the world
or
2) The guy who

a. Overthrows a sovereign ruler
b. Approved the attack and killing of over 1500 people with predator drones in a sovereign nation
c. The guy that launches military operations in sovereign nations to murder someone without trial
d. The guy who approves the murder of a US born national
e. The guy who practiced constitutional law, ran on the promise to shut down Guantanamo Bay, yet refuses to shut down Guantanamo Bay

etc etc etc....

Personally, I approve of the attacks and extrajudicial killings. I just don't agree with him winning a Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely nothing to deserve it.

:2 cents:

So I make you look stupid and you respond with something as incoherent and insanely idiotic as "step daddy's sperm"? Your stupidity is well documented, please continue embarrassing yourself.:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

Since I'm on the right, I have no problems with Obama doing any of this and actually giving him credit for having the balls to do what his idiotic democratic party would not, nor would support. He did what had to be done knowing there was going to be collateral damage and I give credit where credit is due. About the only thing he's done right thus far.

let's just all agree, that whether it should have come earlier, or whether we should have never gone there in the first place... at least it seems to be coming to an end (for now).

was it worth it? that doesnt matter, it happened, it's done... lets just be happy things "appear" to be getting better

I have yet to see you make anyone look stupid, yourself excluded of course. :1orglaugh

I was saying that Obama being given the Nobel Peace Prize will make some believe he is peaceful, as they trust the authority that's telling them this.

With the war on Libya, I would agree with you if I trusted what the mainstream media have told us, but IMHO we've been had with Propaganda, I believe Gaddafi was good to his people and wouldn't follow the orders of the west. :2 cents:

Only 150 to remain back there to sell weapons :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Yes, whoever think it got something to do with oil is retarded :error

Who cares about that?

It's not like it was a good idea in the first place.

Don't worry. Bush still gets all the credit for that wild goose chase for weapons of mass destruction that got us in there in the first place :thumbsup

The percent of right that America had to do either 0%

The percent of both conflicts being unconstitutional, war crimes and wars of aggression 100%

good news... but I think USA missed about 2,500 soldiers there :( RIP

Good little read here

http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/201...roop-presence/

Perfect. Obama gets all the credit for our economy being a total shitfest and on the erge of collapse. :thumbsup

Nice try.

The economy was circling the toilet bowl before Obama even won the election.

Nice try, the economy is much worse off with Obama as president. In case you haven't noticed (not surprisingly), I'm goading you into a position of double standards. You'll give Obama credit on any situation imaginable, but the blame goes on Bush.. Thanks for playing.

Yup it was and the troops were already scheduled to be withdrawn.

I disagree with this. We need to send a strong message that if you mess with the US, we will occupy your country forever and ever. We are still in Germany and still in Japan. We need to remain in Iraq and Afghanistan until the end of time.

This is gonna sound horrible, but what we need is total destruction. I'm currently reading a book about the last few days in Berlin at the close of WW2. The destruction was vast - very little was left standing. Entire cities were destroyed in a single day by carpet bombing. Warfare has changed so much in the past sixty years - Now it's all about precision. We look at Japan now and see them as our friends and see them as a peaceful nation, but few remember how violent and brutal they were in the 1940s.

We can take out entire military and government in a month. But that doesn't subdue the general population.

If you think about it, Iran is surrounded by US forces. But how has that helped us? Iran doesn't even seem threatened...

The US has military bases in 63 countries, and has a total of about 250k deployed at these bases. While that sounds like a vast number, keep in mind that some of these bases are in places like Japan, Italy, and Spain.

But you do raise a good point. Why are we STILL in Korea? If we pull out, would NK really be foolish enough to start shit?