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Old 10-24-2011, 10:28 AM   #101
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No shit! Don't these two major companies realize that the FIRST thing they need to do is come to a message board and tell a bunch of people using highschool nicknames (not directed at you personally...but the whole board) that may or may not be an affiliate of their cash programs (and in 2011 definitely DON'T have traffic unless your name is "FreeOnes") EXACTLY what they are doing!

Damn it! Who the hell do they think they are anyway? They do NOT want to piss of TeenCat or fatfoo!
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:31 AM   #102
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:38 AM   #103
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sold now or not? how about we get an official statement in here?
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:19 AM   #105
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I'm here in Miami Beach and I cannot see any sale of RK. I'm on the 22nd floor of my building so I can see a lot. If there is a sale, there will be smoke from the porn chimney and I will report to GFY ASAP. (or someone will run up a baloon or something)

I'm looking right the fuck at them so if any money changes hands I'm going to know it.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:58 AM   #106
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sold now or not? how about we get an official statement in here?
Obviously there is nothing done. No statement tells you that.

Everyone knows Fabian is making huge moves and many major companies are targets. He is probably in talks with many companies and any company he's in talks with can't and wouldn't want to discuss it publicly. Take it as a rumor that may become a reality and nothing more.
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:01 PM   #107
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Btw all you big solid companies get your books and data in order. You don't want to be scrambling to do that when Fabian knocks on your door
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:03 PM   #108
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Using whose stats though? As I understand it those aren't raws. I don't believe they are even first page uniques, are they?
Of course these are not first page uniques, but as you can see some noobs fall for it and post it as the real stats. You must be clueless to post those stats as an actual ratio...
I wonder how many ND affiliates were fooled that way (and some of them maybe even fooled others by posting their "ratios" lol)
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:08 PM   #109
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:36 PM   #110
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Btw all you big solid companies get your books and data in order. You don't want to be scrambling to do that when Fabian knocks on your door
Funny because my thoughts are if not today then tomorrow.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:01 PM   #112
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:06 PM   #113
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Btw all you big solid companies get your books and data in order. You don't want to be scrambling to do that when Fabian knocks on your door
for the companies that even kept an uncooked copy of their books.... almost every company i know in this biz has something fishy going on in accounting.

Manwin bought some of them already too.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:24 PM   #114
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for the companies that even kept an uncooked copy of their books.... almost every company i know in this biz has something fishy going on in accounting.

Manwin bought some of them already too.
You a CPA? I need help. Fabian sent two guys in a Maybach to knock on my door and say "you're next" ... and I don't know what to do.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:30 PM   #115
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:03 AM   #116
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:42 AM   #117
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All since May/June. Damn....
dont forget the rumored FTVgirls...that no one wants to believe
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dont forget the rumored FTVgirls...that no one wants to believe
I don't think that is accurate. I think there is something bigger lurking
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I don't think that is accurate. I think there is something bigger lurking
Makes sense for him to go after processors so he can try to put his smaller competition out of business now that he has bought many of the larger players. That way he reaps more from his purchases. I could see him buying CCBill and then starving out the smaller pay sites and affiliates (ratios collapse to 3x what they were, new fees introduced, smaller accounts closed or just flat out shut it down completely) to make them shutdown to eliminate competition.

I project 50% of the industry leaving if CCBill disappears or somehow becomes no longer viable for smaller businesses (by design). Smaller pay sites and affiliates combined. Practically every webmaster has hundreds or thousands a month tied up in CCBill in rebills.

It's ripe because the owners have their hands full with their hosting ventures and adult could be seen as a liability.

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Im hearing bang brothers but that is unconfirmed at this point
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:14 PM   #121
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Im hearing bang brothers but that is unconfirmed at this point
BB were always tied in with RK in some way though, weren't they? I presume Program3 and all the other properties too are merging. Program3 started their gay manhub tube which was always extremely suspicious.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:25 PM   #123
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BB were always tied in with RK in some way though, weren't they? I presume Program3 and all the other properties too are merging. Program3 started their gay manhub tube which was always extremely suspicious.
Exactly thats why it makes enough sense to say it hell they had the same address i guess the RK purchase includes BangBros which would explain the 20M+ price tag I heard
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nasty dollars/bang bros/haze cash/program3/their tubes all the same shit .....
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Exactly thats why it makes enough sense to say it hell they had the same address i guess the RK purchase includes BangBros which would explain the 20M+ price tag I heard
wtf - u think Manwin purchased RK AND Bangbros for 20M? They paid 40M for DigitalPlayground and jesus RK alone has to be worth more than DP.
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they also got one of the top adult dating sites / brands fling which was always a gap in the manwin portfolio, plus the naked.com cam site.
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wtf - u think Manwin purchased RK AND Bangbros for 20M? They paid 40M for DigitalPlayground and jesus RK alone has to be worth more than DP.
The DP price was subsequently revised the real price was between 6 and 8M

Truth is price stuff is harder to track down till well after the fact.

But that Manwin consumed RK is old news for sure.
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Exactly thats why it makes enough sense to say it hell they had the same address i guess the RK purchase includes BangBros which would explain the 20M+ price tag I heard
20 would be just the down payment. Considering how much has been paid for brazzers and all, rk and sites can't go for less.
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Exactly thats why it makes enough sense to say it hell they had the same address i guess the RK purchase includes BangBros which would explain the 20M+ price tag I heard
20million ? hah why would they sell for 1 months revenue ?
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The MILF Hunter's hat alone went for 20 mill.
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20million ? hah why would they sell for 1 months revenue ?
That's what I was thinking - probably about right too
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we've all been living in a fantasy world if RK/Bangbros is only worth 20M. can't be right.
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The DP price was subsequently revised the real price was between 6 and 8M
wow, i thought the 40M number was very high but 6-8M for DP sounds like chump change.

when the biggest brands in an industry purported to be doing from 4-15B a year are sold for 6-8M or ever 20M then you can pretty much stick a fork in the industry. what's left are crumbs, more crumbs of course for some.
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when the biggest brands in an industry purported to be doing from 4-15B a year are sold for 6-8M or ever 20M then you can pretty much stick a fork in the industry. what's left are crumbs, more crumbs of course for some.
Which brand had even broke 1billion a year?
I bet manwin is close if not there

15billion lol come on
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Which brand had even broke 1billion a year?
I bet manwin is close if not there

15billion lol come on
i meant 14 billion -that's the number Forbes Magazine pegged the porn industry at. I think the ONLINE porn industry at its peak was ~4B a year. How I got that estimate was based on CCBILL stats that were public.
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