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10-16-2011, 07:08 AM

ive known biggy for almost 8 years now.. i talked to him last night bout the whole melissa issue, he wasn't getting paid yet he came here to be everyone's punching bag. he wasnt in control of the payments or the $. if he was, people would have gotten paid.

there is no point in getting worked up with this because shane or melissa won't change their mind on this. the $ is gone and that's just part of the biz i guess.

i lost low $xxxx cause of this but in the end i made a TON of money from melissamoney. thanks for taking cock melissa

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10-16-2011, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by Pseudonymous

No no, he's definitely talking about himself, the fact that they (melissa &bf) are making more than enough to pay the bill is quite obvious and I don't think he can truly deny that on a board full of other owners that know what these sites make. What he was saying is that he was still operating it and not receiving any money so he closed down the affiliate program because he was in charge of paying for that. And I guess they aren't planning to either

I thought he was passing this off as their kids at risk of starving and them not having enough money? I thought I caught where he said he advised them to do this because they couldn't afford (so he says) to pay affiliates anymore? Hell I don't know. Hopefully Biggy will clarify. Personally I'm inclined to call bullshit on this too. But I'm not out a cent so this isn't personal for me.

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10-16-2011, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by Biggy2

Yeah, I guess all the $ I made in the past should be ignored, like when she went hardcore.

I guess in her prime, when that site was a CASH MACHINE, and affiliates got paid each and every time, we should ignore that as well. Let's just ignore the entire successful history of that site.

I am very thankful for the run I had with them.

Fair enough. Make a good point.

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10-16-2011, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Pseudonymous

Fair enough. Make a good point. Tho I dont think it excuses what theyre doing now.

Do you know how much Mark Zuckerberg made some of his investors, should he be allowed to just drop them when he pleases because he's already made them a bunch. Thats how I see it. If his company no longer made what it used to, everybody is still entitled.

In the end, Biggy is not responsible for this, and is left holding the bag.
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10-16-2011, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

I thought he was passing this off as their kids at risk of starving and them not having enough money? I thought I caught where he said he advised them to do this because they couldn't afford (so he says) to pay affiliates anymore? Hell I don't know. Hopefully Biggy will clarify. Personally I'm inclined to call bullshit on this too. But I'm not out a cent so this isn't personal for me.

Well if theyre not willing to get a job, either of them and this is their means, then i can see that. So that is somewhat understandable. By not paying affiliates, they should be doing a ton better now. Truthfully im making less than them currently and im growing, maybe they should have reinvested into their adult business since it appears to be the only thing still making them money, i wonder what they'll do when it completely dries up.

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10-16-2011, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Anthony

In the end, Biggy is not responsible for this, and is left holding the bag.

It appears this way now, I wasn't drilling him, I was simply asking questions to help myself make sense of this. I did end up making a little more sense of it and it appears Shane and Melissa are a couple of low lives who will do anything to avoid getting real jobs.

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10-16-2011, 07:15 AM

Money earned from the program goes to Shane.

Shane does not pay Biggy.

Biggy, third party "operator", pay affiliates out of own pocket.

Biggy confirms that Shane will not be paying Biggy.

Biggy has no choice but to close "program."

That it?

Not sure why Biggy is getting ragged on. Sounds like he got fucked the most. Shane/Melissa are to blame and all we can do is move on. Melissa was hot, the time/money I spent promoting her has been recouped many times over. It's a shame, but arguing over an unfortunate situation isn't going to pay anyone.

Good luck everyone, remember that any ONE sponsor is but one piece of your large puzzle. If you haven't been screwed yet, you will at some point. Enjoy the fruits while they are good, always be prepared to pick from the next tree.

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10-16-2011, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Sly

Money earned from the program goes to Shane.

Shane does not pay Biggy.

Biggy, third party "operator", pay affiliates out of own pocket.

Biggy confirms that Shane will not be paying Biggy.

Biggy has no choice but to close "program."

That it?

Not sure why Biggy is getting ragged on. Sounds like he got fucked the most. Shane/Melissa are to blame and all we can do is move on. Melissa was hot, the time/money I spent promoting her has been recouped many times over. It's a shame, but arguing over an unfortunate situation isn't going to pay anyone.

Good luck everyone, remember that any ONE sponsor is but one piece of your large puzzle. If you haven't been screwed yet, you will at some point. Enjoy the fruits while they are good, always be prepared to pick from the next tree.

slight tweak:

Money earned from the program goes to Shane.

Shane does not pay Biggy.
Biggy, third party "operator", -updates site, runs wm support.
Shane pays affiliates out of own pocket.
Biggy confirms that Shane will not be paying affiliates.
Biggy has no choice but to close "program."
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10-16-2011, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Sly

Money earned from the program goes to Shane.

Shane does not pay Biggy.

Biggy, third party "operator", pay affiliates out of own pocket.

Biggy confirms that Shane will not be paying Biggy.

Biggy has no choice but to close "program."

That it?

Not sure why Biggy is getting ragged on. Sounds like he got fucked the most. Shane/Melissa are to blame and all we can do is move on. Melissa was hot, the time/money I spent promoting her has been recouped many times over. It's a shame, but arguing over an unfortunate situation isn't going to pay anyone.

Good luck everyone, remember that any ONE sponsor is but one piece of your large puzzle. If you haven't been screwed yet, you will at some point. Enjoy the fruits while they are good, always be prepared to pick from the next tree.

For me personally I'm very skeptical that things really are happening like that. No one really knows what is going on except them. The only thing affiliates know is they aren't getting paid. I've learned to be very skeptical in this business as so many are CROOKS. But I've said enough already. If there are any affiliates out there owed money it's also on them to come and speak out if they care.

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10-16-2011, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by epitome

LOL you people are dumb and have no understanding of business and law.

This is a civil matter and relates to the contract you have with her. Sue.

duh! Her name is Melissa not Sue.

j/k, i know what you saying.

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10-16-2011, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by Anthony

In the end, Biggy is not responsible for this, and is left holding the bag.

For me it's still a black mark on him because of the association. If he is as innocent as he states it's a shame but I have to look out for myself too just as he claims to be doing by shutting down the affiliate program but leaving the sites and processing up. All too often does this sort of thing happen where certain players try to weasel out of taking any blame with various excuses and claims. We've seen it again and again. Affiliates aren't getting paid, site is up. That's the bottom line. Nothing personal. It's my own judgment call. To each their own. Good luck to all parties involved.

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10-16-2011, 07:26 AM

It's always boo hoo poor me, when they take your money, but the sites are still up. Someone is paying the hosting. Wow, they're facing bankrupcy, bummer. How was it a while back when they were up to their asses in hundred dollar bills. Times are tough all over, so let's all go rob someone. And Paul, you are dead wrong in this thread.

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10-16-2011, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

Great post.

This is the real world, pay your bills or go bankrupt paying others who are not actively promoting and selling the site?

Expect it to happen a lot more. Programs will start to look long and hard at affiliates who are just getting rebills, got money held because it's under the minimum or people using their content to sell ad space.

5-6 years ago the layer of cream on the cake was thick enough to carry these people. Today it's not. So expect programs to look at whose sending traffic, whose only doing rebills and who are mostly getting paid rebills. Then deciding if the axe will fall on them. Consider this the future.

Cut off dead wood to save the tree, or not and lose the tree. With some of the good branches dying along with it.

In English. Cut those you can live without, to keep paying those you need.

Paul, as usual you a fucking idiot.

In the real world, people don't resort to stealing. They get a fucking job, or second job or third job to pay their personal bills. What Melissa and Shane are doing here is using the affiliate's money to pay their bills so they don't have to go out and work to make the money... booo fucking who. I don't feel sorry for them one bit, between the both of them they could easily WORK enough to cover their bills and wouldn't need to steal.

This is no different then if I worked for a company and didn't make enough in my pay check so instead of getting a second job I just stole money from the register. THEFT! But like Epitome said, in this case it is a civil matter and she would need to be sued.

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10-16-2011, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by biggy2

i know shane, etc - he is a good person, he simply ran into financial difficulties, and has a family to protect. I haven't even asked for my $. Actually, when i think about it, i am owed the most out of anyone here.

then get a fucking job! Don't steal from the people who helped make you millions!

Originally posted by spunky99

ive known biggy for almost 8 years now.. i talked to him last night bout the whole melissa issue, he wasn't getting paid yet he came here to be everyone's punching bag. he wasnt in control of the payments or the $. if he was, people would have gotten paid.

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Again, he sucks at being a "punching bag". He is coming across as an arrogant prick, that is doing himself no favors.

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10-16-2011, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Sly

Money earned from the program goes to Shane.

Shane does not pay Biggy.

Biggy, third party "operator", pay affiliates out of own pocket.

Biggy confirms that Shane will not be paying Biggy.

Biggy has no choice but to close "program."

That it?

Not sure why Biggy is getting ragged on. Sounds like he got fucked the most. Shane/Melissa are to blame and all we can do is move on. Melissa was hot, the time/money I spent promoting her has been recouped many times over. It's a shame, but arguing over an unfortunate situation isn't going to pay anyone.

Good luck everyone, remember that any ONE sponsor is but one piece of your large puzzle. If you haven't been screwed yet, you will at some point. Enjoy the fruits while they are good, always be prepared to pick from the next tree.

This is why we get screwed time and time again. It's attitude like this.

Epass enabled lots of people to easily transfer money, so even though people got screwed it enabled a lot of people to do business easier.

ibill allowed membership sites to make millions of dollars, they should be thankful for the time they spent using them to make that money.

programs go "out of business" and stop paying revshare, we should all say thank you for the opportunity....

etc
etc
etc

You might as well just tell everyone in the future when their business declines or times get tough, first step fuck your affiliates and/or business partners. They will thank you for the opportunity they had.

Fuck that, why can't people just upheld their end of the deal for once and not STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED MAKE THEM ALL OF THAT MONEY. It's not how much she helped make you, it's how much YOU helped make them... and this is the way they repay you.

And... if you did want to donate to them because you liked them then by all means do so if you wish, but it shouldn't be a force "donation" by everyone. Some of their affiliates might be in worst situation than they are and obviously they don't give a flying fuck.

Originally posted by Pseudonymous

He came in here to defend his companys name that was titled. Not to be a punching bag. lol

He also defended a couple that stole from a ton of affiliates.

I think biggy makes enough money where this all seems like small stuff and thats what gives him this why not let the poor couple have more attitude.

While he did convince me that it's not him being a main part of it, definitely didn't come to this thread like I would have if i was in his position.

I would have came in here saying

"what they did was not right but its their choice and not mine, im giving myself distance from them, while they are still friends, i can assure you i wont be doing business with them at any time again and you can trust that i will not be doing this with my business."

instead he said, well the thousands they make off this network a month isn't enough, it makes sense that they did this (and i may have even mentioned the idea to them)

Somebody needs to work on their PR

Exactly he is a great "punching bag". Came here to dissociate his program from this mess. Defend his friends as good people, and play the victim. Is arrogant and argues with people and doesn't think you should have an opinion if you weren't an affiliate.

Good job biggy.

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