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Old 10-15-2011, 01:36 PM   #201
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Does it matter if it's 1 recurring payment to come next month, or a left over balance that never made the minimum payment, a thousand dollars, one dollar...1 person, 10 people, etc.?

Stealing a dollar or stealing a million dollars is still stealing. So, to say this is a non-issue or nothing, is just wrong.
i am waiting for all the affiliates to come forward with their stories of money owed or even that they sent even one sale this year. surely with such a successful site there must be multitudes.
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i am waiting for all the affiliates to come forward with their stories of money owed or even that they sent on sale this tear. surely such a successful site there must be multitudes.
You honestly believe, really, seriously, lol, that over all the years, and all the affiliates, that not one single person, not one, had a balance left in their account?
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You honestly believe, really, seriously, lol, that over all the years, and all the affiliates, that not one single person, not one, had a balance left in their account?
i trust facts and reality. not the internet witch hunt of a pack of white knights.
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I'm not defending anyone. I am providing transparency to a shitty situation. Once again, stop putting words in my mouth. I don't think this is the right thing to do, but once again, right and wrong goes out the window as does your idelogies when people have no $.

And you sir, are still an idiot.
I didn't put words in your mouth. I quoted what you had typed verbatim. If you intended something different perhaps you should work on your communication skills and be a little more verbose?

So you agree it isn't right. We agree. If they don't have any money then they have my sympathies. But knowingly screwing people over isn't the answer either. If the site is staying up and rebills are being processed then the affiliate needs their cut. If they don't it's basically fraud. If there aren't any affiliates owed money then it should be easy. Pay them what little they are owed. If you're such a friend maybe you can loan them the few hundred on good terms?
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i trust facts and reality. not the internet witch hunt of a pack of white knights.
Right, because the facts of the matter must be that not one person had an account balance. If we're going on pure facts and reality, not one person had one penny left in their account.

It makes sense, there could not have been one single penny left, why else lock it up. Nothing to see anyway. What a joke.

It's a shame their aren't more white knights and witch hunts
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hey is that affiliate one dollar bills? someone notify in the affiliate white knight squadron stat!
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Right, because the facts of the matter must be that not one person had an account balance. If we're going on pure facts and reality, not one person had one penny left in their account.

It makes sense, there could not have been one single penny left, why else lock it up. Nothing to see anyway. What a joke.

It's a shame their aren't more white knights and witch hunts
still waiting for some screen shots. surely someone could show us their stats remote and prove me wrong.
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still waiting for some screen shots. surely someone could show us their state remote and prove me wrong.
Why not ask those you sympathize with to show us a screen shot. They still have access, ask biggy to throw up a screen shot proving there is nothing, not one penny, left in anyone's account. Let's all wait for that to happen.
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Biggy2,

See the problem is they do have money to pay affiliates since they are leaving the site up and they are still processing rebills. If it is revshare that means the affiliate is due 50% or whatever it is. They can pay that 50%. So it's not a question of not being able to pay. It's a question of who they want to pay and in what order as well as what they need for themselves.

What they seem to be trying to do is just cutting out their affiliates so they can steal their rebills while keeping the site up. That is why I am pissed and I think that is why others are pissed too. It'd be totally different if this weren't the case.

I have nothing personal against them or even you otherwise. But yes as an adult affiliate screwing over affiliates pisses me off and I will raise hell about it when I see it.

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See the problem is they do have money to pay affiliates since they are leaving the site up and they are still processing rebills. If it is revshare that means the affiliate is due 50% or whatever it is. They can pay that 50%. So it's not a question of not being able to pay. It's a question of who they want to pay and in what order as well as what they need for themselves.

What they seem to be trying to do is just cutting otu their affiliates so they can steal their rebills while keeping the site up. That is why I am pissed and I think that is why others are pissed too. It'd be totally different if this weren't the case.
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this is up there with bernie madoff.
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Right, because the facts of the matter must be that not one person had an account balance. If we're going on pure facts and reality, not one person had one penny left in their account.

It makes sense, there could not have been one single penny left, why else lock it up. Nothing to see anyway. What a joke.

It's a shame their aren't more white knights and witch hunts
how much are you owed?
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how much are you owed?
Why do you keep putting the burden of proof there is nothing owed on the affiliates? Why not ask for the screen shot from the people who still have access, to show all the accounts, and what's left or not, what's still recurring or not?

You defend them as if you may be getting a part of the profits owed to the affiliates yourself.
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Why do you keep putting the burden of proof there is nothing owed on the affiliates? Why not ask for the screen shot from the people who still have access, to show all the accounts, and what's left or not, what's still recurring or not?

You defend them as if you may be getting a part of the profits owed to the affiliates yourself.
the program has been dead for a long time. why make a big deal out of nothing. they could have just closed up and no one would have even noticed the difference.

this isn't like sobv or epassporte. i seriously even doubt a single person here sent them a join recently or had an existing rebill.
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the program has been dead for a long time. why make a big deal out of nothing. they could have just closed up and no one would have even noticed the difference.

this isn't like sobv or epassporte. i seriously even doubt a single person here sent them a join recently or had an existing rebill.
You trust facts and reality. So, where are the facts and reality that the program has been dead for a long time. Again, why not ask for a screen shot, from the owners, of the fact and reality that the program has been dead, and the fact and reality that no one is owed any money. This is your logic at work.
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You trust facts and reality. So, where are the facts and reality that the program has been dead for a long time. Again, why not ask for a screen shot, from the owners, of the fact and reality that the program has been dead, and the fact and reality that no one is owed any money. This is your logic at work.
why do you care? are you owed money?
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Exactly the response I expected. You have such a hardon for Melissa or the owners you can't even follow your own logic. You don't give one shit about fact or reality, stop claiming you do.

To answer your question, I'll be filing a claim in small claims court come Monday morning. I'm not going to fuck around begging for the cash, or put up with outright theft. I certainly won't condone it, as you do.
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wtf? that's the most stupid shit I've heard. I have a 20k uniques/day site with alexa rank of 200k.
What you're saying is that there are 200 000 sites in the world that have 20 000 unique visitors/day or more. That means 200 000 sites get a combined traffic of at least 4 000 000 000 (4 billion(!) - 20000x200000=4000000000) unique visitors/day. And since sites that have higher rank than your's have more visitors, it is safe to assume that according to your "estimations" those 200 000 sites get more traffic than there are people living on planet Earth.

Magnificient stupidity.

And it seemss like you're also looking at compete.com stats and think those are daily figures.
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I sent more then one sale and got more rebills then sales too
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What you're saying is that there are 200 000 sites in the world that have 20 000 unique visitors/day or more. That means 200 000 sites get a combined traffic of at least 4 000 000 000 (4 billion(!) - 20000x200000=4000000000) unique visitors/day. And since sites that have higher rank than your's have more visitors, it is safe to assume that according to your "estimations" those 200 000 sites get more traffic than there are people living on planet Earth.

Magnificient stupidity.

And it seemss like you're also looking at compete.com stats and think those are daily figures.
I could give two shits about your math, no offense. 70k alexa is not 5k daily uniques.
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why not just join ther site, download all the content and do your own site?

if you belive they stole from you, then whats the difference?
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why not just join ther site, download all the content and do your own site?

if you belive they stole from you, then whats the difference?
Don't be daft, it's 2011. You don't need to join a site to download all of it's content.
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i have been doing it wrong then for the last few months.
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obviously you dont have a family (kids) and/or have never faced bankruptcy. and clearly you dont understand the margins on a paysite because you forgot to include credits, refunds, processing fees, staff, and more.

and also, its not my child support. i am the messenger. i am here giving you the facts about what is happening, but no matter what i say reality isn't going to change. all i can give you is an understanding and transparency to the situation.
And where did he put the trust all affiliators had? having 2 wives and 3 or 40 kids it's not a motivation to not paying what is owed!
If ppl are so stupid to get 2 wives and to fuck them getting 3 or more brats it is not our problem but theirs! They shoudn't had make a family.
This is just stealing!
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post a pic of your stats counter then
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EH? maybe you should understand life....

Divvy said "if someone believed the content on a site is stolen, to join & steal the content."

You said "you dont need to join to do that as it's 2011"

Im saying, what one does, we don't all have to do..... I wouldn't steal something back from a thief, it makes you the same as the thieves.... That's not how a business deals with it, that's how low lifes deal with things.
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EH? maybe you should understand life....

Divvy said "if someone believed the content on a site is stolen, to join & steal the content."

You said "you dont need to join to do that as it's 2011"

Im saying, what one does, we don't all have to do..... I wouldn't steal something back from a thief, it makes you the same as the thieves.... That's not how a business deals with it, that's how low lifes deal with things.
Idiot!!!
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wtf? that's the most stupid shit I've heard. I have a 20k uniques/day site with alexa rank of 200k.

Mentioned earlier, the Alexa rank takes other things into account. Such as hosted promo stuff like FHGs. That's completely different than traffic landing on the site/tour and will inflate Alexa rankings.


**EDIT: Fuck this thread is moving fast.
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Old 10-15-2011, 03:49 PM   #247
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Wow that sucks.
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Old 10-15-2011, 03:54 PM   #248
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Idiot!!!


An idiot for explaining why I was misunderstood?

What would we call you with nothing else to say...... boring, tedious, unintelligent? But hey Thanks for your input, twas most thrilling....
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:02 PM   #249
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Can I make a suggestion? Close down the site (gracefully) and pay the affiliates using the card processing holdback. 10% worth of 6 months of revenue should be sufficient to cover the 2-3 missed payment periods.

(That's assuming there was a holdback in place... is it still typically 10% held for 6mo?)
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:03 PM   #250
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