DVTimes

11 pages of people moaning.

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patavax

WTF? I see a lot of drama here but I checked to see more than 1 affiliate that owes more than 100 bucks... I didn''t see any.
Just adapt that it is is 2011 now...
It is not <2005 anymore... The days that they made 5-12 sales per day are over now!
A good day will be 5 but an average one will be 1-2...

This kind of sites does not sell anymore.

Offcourse they should pay their affiliates but Biggy has explained why this is not the case. If it should be profitable they should have kept the affiliate program. But it is very difficult to get sales nowadays so they decided to stop the affiliate program.

I would never do biz with the owners (Melissa + Shane). I dont' like the idea to get screwed in the ass and the affiliates are getting screwed but for how much? 6? 9? 50? ok that is too much but keep going on with the work and keep in mind to do not anymore biz with Melissa and Shane

The site will still get some sales from typeins but it will be dead soon.

Just pull your links (as asked by Biggy) and keep on working on other projects!

Spread the word: pull your links!

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ilnjscb

If she was doing hardcore and updating it would - but it looks like she isn't

Jayvis

Whoa this thread blew up quick... I didn't mean any drama by originally posting this btw, just figured it was big news and would get posted one way or another anyways.

I was also just saying thanks for the good times I had when promoting her years back when I was still a small fish in the adult pond. Was one of the first programs I ever started pushing I think. Nothing but respect to Biggy, guy seems to know his shit quite well and I admire that.

Failed

1) You didn't look hard enough
2) Melissa + Shane + Biggy (Where is the transparency, the opening of nats, the screen shots of account balances and rebills, or all of the other things Biggy could do for the affiliates besides come here and give bullshit excuses?)
3) I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't stopped working to concentrate on this thread. But I certainly will come back from time to time to bump it.

ArsewithClass

ok

georgeyw

Yes they do

Biggy2

I think the GFY name you gave yourself, the name that you wish to be known as, is appropriate.

Some affiliates have contacted me directly, and I have helped them where appropriate.

GFY is not my support forum, and you are not my keeper.

Out of everyone, I am owed the most. I am very grateful for the time I had with MM, had a great run, even if it didn't end as clean as it could have. Such is life.

Mutt

you don't know what you're talking about. solo girl sites still sell. not 50 sales a day anymore but 5-12 - in my sleep.

my 5 year old solo site still hits 5 sales a day off and on which is why i say Melissa's site is still making Shane decent money. Unless for some reason Melissa's site doesn't have the staying power mine does - could be, the site i'm talking about is more 'teenie' than Melissa's so maybe that helps. i don't know.

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onlymovies

Biggy,

Melissa and boyfriend obviously threw you under the bus. What i don't understand is, why are you protecting them? Especially with you being owed the most?

You should be releasing addresses and numbers for the affiliates who find the need to file small claims. Business is business and any affiliate that is owe money has the right to file claim.

They're obviously out of the business and won't be seen again, so fuck it....what's there to protect exactly?? What are you trying to salvage with them? Doesn't make sense.

I probably should have read the whole thread before posting so sorry if posted answer already.

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Biggy2

Because I am not an idiot and I understand real law, not GFY law. They haven't breached ANY laws. I sue people more than anyone here - privately, I am well versed in the law.

Half the idiots who posted "steal their content if they owe you $" also do not know how law works.

And posting personal information, in addition to business information I do not own, or have the rights to, puts me at a liability. You get a real reply because you are a real person.

Failed

May I suggest you change your GFY name to Thief? As far as I can see, that's the name you're giving yourself, the name you wish to be known as, and is quite appropriate.

I guess I should apologize for coming in here and not kissing your ass for stealing the money of affiliates like your sponsor bros. I should just take your word when you say that you're owed the most, or the program makes no money, or there were less than 5 rebills, and all the other bullshit without an ounce of proof. You said it, it must be true!

I'm not your keeper, I don't expect you to actually post any of the things I called for, or for you to do anything but keep telling the victims of your heist to fuck off. But, people should know what the owner of other programs still up and running is all about.

spunky99

so how much are you owed failed?

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porno jew

failed is owed nothing and i predict a ban soon.

Failed

I didn't make the minimum payment. Does that mean it isn't stealing?

Where is the fact and reality behind this statement? How do you know I'm owed nothing? As far as a ban goes, for what? Telling the truth, asking for the fact and reality you claim to care so much about?

looky_lou

$46.39 owed here.

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Traffic Guru

assistant? You don't have an assistant! What for?
12clcik's 24-7 fantasy land - pretend its 2001 and you're still someone of value.
Dear washed up D list celebrity of adult biz, while real betters continued on to make money in adult and mainstream, you chose to waste your time on boards and argue with liberal minded kids about politics. The BETTERS bought and sold millions worth of programs and merchandise, while you sat on lame affiliate program in which you invested 5 thousand dollars to buy 50 DVDs for so called member area. No matter how hard you try, you will never be what you once hoped. I probably sell more shit in 2 hours than your entire affiliate program in a month. The only reason you haven't closed it, is because you don't want to be ridiculed by those that are smarter and better. Assistant LOL

will76

hmmmmmmm

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will76

Interesting how when the shoe was on the other foot and Biggy was getting fucked by the previous site owners how much he is acting just like the affiliates are now.

I bet Biggy isn't really out much money if anything. What exactly is he paying for to run this site, a couple bucks for hosting? he claims "out sourced" workers? for what? Doesn't make any sense. #1 the site shouldn't have much if any expenses and #2 if it did why would he pay the expenses to keep a site running that he claims not only makes any money any more but he gets none of it.

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Roald

Close to 3k here.

And no im not puting this on Biggy.

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will76

Close to 3K so far, how much will you lose by the time all of those memberships finished rebilling out? 10K - 15K ?

If the money is going to Shane then obviously it's not Biggy's fault. Shane is keeping the money, if that is in fact the truth.

It's Biggy's attitude here, defending them, acting like an arrogant pick why he is getting shit back from people. And him claiming to be the victim who has been paying out of pocket to keep a site running that makes nothing and he makes nothing from I think is total bullshit. I bet anything Roland is going to lose more money than Biggy is "out of pocket". Not to mention when Biggy was an affiliate and got screwed in the same position he got mad just like affiliates are getting mad here, that he is taking a shit on.

But Roland, Melissa is hot, you should thank her and be happy that you could donate to her and Shane so they can "pay their bills".

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BareBacked

What do you sue people for ?

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Biggy2

I have said it before. What you construe as me defending them isn't me defending them. I simply said I am at peace with it and happy for my run that I had, and they ran into their issues.

Outsourced workers for making recycled FHGs, recycling tour updates, etc. Marian from Marian Design was doing it for me. Many old schoolers know her. There were other expenses I picked up too, to run the sites, but I am not going to post every detail here.

You're an idiot who cannot be reasoned with. You should hold a little pow-wow with "signupdamnit" and "failed." What you see isn't arrogance, although I know to someone who has no real experience running a successful operation it can be construed that way. What you see is me exposing truthful and accurate knowledge over you against your speculation and MIS-INFORMATION to attempt to prove a further non-valid point, and me communicating it in a way that is meant for the smart people in this industry to see, not the haters who aren't even owed a penny. To a lot of people, I am making a lot of sense, primarily the people who are successful in the business - the people I actually care about. The people who understand the basic tenants and principles of how business functions, nd the unfortunate circumstances around basic closure.

Roald was owed the most next to me, but I am easily owed the most, not including the expenses I incurred. That should hardly be a surprise considering this is a solo girl site and his site is after all FreeOnes.

Biggy2

Right now... copyright infringement.

People who use my images, without my permission.

A lot of affiliates seem to think they can go out, use content that doesn't belong to them, and whip together any page to promote someone else, without bearing the cost of shooting anything themselves. I know everyone who there is to know in this business. Usually when I catch someone, I know them, which makes it that much more air tight.

They are also fairly simple cases to prove. If all the major content producers did this, the game would be a lot more level.

Failed

Man, those affiliates are assholes. Who the hell do they think they are taking shit that doesn't belong to them.

Biggy2

I never said the affiliates don't have a right to be upset. I also said it was wrong, at least 2x.

i did say people who arent owed anything really dont have a right to bitch, like you.

I also said you were an idiot.

i am done.

signupdamnit

I think your arrogance is very apparent even to some of the people who appear to defend you here. It's to their benefit to befriend you and to stay your friend but I think deep down many of them know exactly what you really are.

Of course I'll never do business with you so we need not converse further. But generally if you don't want someone to come give you shit it is a good idea to avoid using their name.

will76

Again, makes no sense. You said the site is not making much money. If so why are you paying to have TGP pages made? Recycling tour updates? That cost you money, how do you not have that shit automated? I love the "other" expenses... you reaching real deep on the two that you list, can't think of anything else so you just resort to "other" expenses.

You might be "out" money from not getting paid on your % of profit share or what ever your deal with them was, but you are not out of pocket much if anything like you claim. I don't buy the b.s. First of all there really is no expenses and if there was you wouldn't continue to pay them (thousands of dollars) out of pocket, to keep a site running that you claim doesn't make much and that you were getting no money from. You just trying to play the victim too.

You very much defending them, trying to distance your program away from them, and trying to play a victim too.

Yawn... I don't even know who signupdamit and failed are. Take all the shots at me you want biggy if it makes you feel better about your self. It is easy to see when people have no argument or defense they turn it into personal attacks. I had no idea who you were before this thread... you handled it like shit and came across as another one of the "bros"...

Added to the do not do business with list... But I know right, I don't make any money or sales so what I say wont mean anything to you. I'm just an un succesful person with nothing better to do then to waste my time pissing up at my betters lol

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will76

You go bro, you know everyone there is to know.

/thread Biggie is ubber bro.

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Failed

Just because I didn't make the minimum payment doesn't mean I'm not owed anything, and it certainly doesn't mean I don't have the right to bitch about someone reaching into my wallet and taking a few bills.

I'm not pissed about a few bucks, it's just the point. If I'm an idiot for that, so be it.

Anyway, I think I've said about all I can in this thread, so I'm done too. Good luck with your other programs, may they have a success equal to this one.

BareBacked

Cool how long you been doing that?

Are you making any money from it?
Won any?
Settlements?

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adultchatpay

Is the domain for sale now?

looky_lou

No the domain is still needed to run the sites for as long as possible. They need to milk those signups and re-bills for as many years as possible.

The sites didn't close. They just closed the affiliate program and cut off all payments owed to affiliates along with all re-bills. They are keeping everything that comes in for themselves and leaving everyone else out in the cold for the Holiday Season.

Class act all the way.

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Jel

Less actual business people in this thread than pages.

12clicks

why do has beens like yourself never realize when its time to move on and stop pretending to still be in this business?

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CaptainHowdy

My imaginary lawyers will be in touch ...

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12clicks

son, all you do is sell shit.

you're a nobody in this biz and a nobody in whatever mainstream niche you once felt successful in long ago.

let it go. you washed out. its a bitter pill (so I hear) but life goes on. now run along and do whatever menial work currently has you so embittered. Do it well and maybe you'll get a raise.

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Traffic Guru

Question you've been asked for years.

12clicks

by trolls.
oddly enough, never anyone in the actual business.
look at you

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Traffic Guru

So you heard? LOL
Bottom feeder pretending he is still making money in adult biz. Ever since you failed with claxo you were done. Others went on to build powerhouses like pimproll and brazzers while you built this joke 12 clcik cash enough to cover your hosting bill. Enjoy whats left of you. Not much left on your clock. Not an easy pill to swallow but somehow you did it.

Traffic Guru

You never had any actual business. You had url of dead program on your business card just so you can run along the side of real players.

seeric

Agreed. Same here.

Problem with GFY is, if they don't hear it to tell lies about it, to them it's not happening.

We are doing exactly what you're doing, and it's making a difference.

Keep up the good fight.

Also, FYI, and I am sure you know this. The only people who have time to throw bottles and rocks at the passerbys on GFY are those that don't have shit, won't be shit, and have nothing better to do.

That is a fact.

12clicks

I heard that in '98 too.
when you decide to give up pretending, be sure to say goodbye. You've been a good laugh.

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Back then you were busy telling people how you went from running very successful roofing company to selling porn clicks to eastern european jew.

onedree

TG.. why are you wasting your time ... Everyone in the know knows you're legit ...

icymelon

I'm still trying to figure out how a paysite that has an alexa rank of 67,000 that runs a revshare program is not profitable.

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12clicks

A troll in the know.

That's classic.

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will76

I am honored that you would consider me a "has been". That means I was actually a "some body" at some point. Coming from you that is a compliment. I am surprised you don't just call me a nobody who never made money.

However, what is most funny is that what you posted above describes yourself to a T.

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12clicks

lots of people had a minute or two in the sun when it was easy.
Then they become board whores like yourself and imagine your betters are also doing poorly.
It never dawns on you that for us, its business as usual.

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