Leo from MFC ------->

[Mutt]

http://www.camgirlsunlimited.com a ton of popular MFC girls private and public shows on there

[seeandsee]

so girls from mfc cant work any where else?

[Oracle Porn]

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

so girls from mfc cant work any where else?

They are using recorded MFC shows as content on their site. That is what he is pointing out.

[lagcam]

You would think somebody who loves Leo and MFC as much as Mutt does would have Leo's personal contact details by now eh?

[DWB]

Cam shows stolen from MyFreeCams, with LiveJasmine banners all over the site.

I love it.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

if you consider alerting a content owner that somebody is stealing their property snitching then i feel sorry for you and i'd love to see the shit you run, guaranteed you don't own a cent of your own content.

[mafia_man]

Originally Posted by Mutt

http://www.camgirlsunlimited.com a ton of popular MFC girls private and public shows on there

How do you copyright what MFC gives away?

[KBHMN]

Someone stealing from MFC? Hmmm that's a twist. I thought it was only MFC stealing from models.

MFC business strategy that works well... (for new cam sites looking to emulate MFC)
1) Approve underage model.
2) Allow underage model to continue working all the way up to cuttoff, even after several complaints from several customers.
3) SURPRISE underage model with the news that she has been banned... RIGHT after cutoff, but BEFORE payment is sent. Keep all the money including models earnings.

And another one of my personal favorites...
1) Leo requests model for sex, model declines.
2) Models boss steps in and wants to know why Leo is harassing her model... gets in heated argument with Leo, and boss tells Leo to fuck off.
3) Leo continues to harass said model demanding the street address of the (Philippines) studio after already informing said model that he has already helped NBI raid MANY other studios in the Philippines. Leo continues to tell said model that she will be "well taken care of" if she helps him get the studio raided...
4) Model shows loyalty to her boss and tells Leo to kick rocks.
5) Models account is deleted as if it never existed robbing model loyal to her studio boss of every dollar she has earned.

This one's good too...
1) Big spender buys a lot of tokens between 2 premium accounts.
2) Big spender logs in from another country (he travels for business) using same laptop but is denied access to account.
3) Big spender emails MFC to ask why his account is being blocked
4) MFC never replies to and ignores repeated emails.
5) Big spender decided to find new cam site to do business with.

And my all time FAVORITE!!!
1) Porn producer has 4 premium accounts, one of them being platinum premium
2) Leo finds out porn producer is talking to models about (SHOCKS!! ) doing videos.
3) Leo gets jealous
4) Porn producer finds all four premium accounts with money still on them banned.
5) (Bonus for really enterprising webmasters) add filter to site so that any time ANY customer even mentions banned porn producers website, customer gets banned on suspicion that he might be that pesky porn producer again.

MFC is a great site... it's weakest link is Leo, and another site will eventually come along and destroy them by just replicating the site minus all the spying on customers, message archiving, lack of ultra shitty customer service, and personal beef bullshit. What would be a great formula for success is always being impeded by Leo's involvement in the site.

I have read threads here on GFY where other webmasters sued the fuck out of Leo for his piracy/password sharing sites and phishing sites and won.

MFC Models recruited for HMN videos so far...

[plsureking]

karma for keeping the affiliate program closed ;)

[Viewfinder]

Originally Posted by plsureking

karma for keeping the affiliate program closed ;)

Indeed...would give my left nut to be able to push MFC.

[lagcam]

You have some beautiful girls on your site KBHMN but I am sure I am not the only person who has been scared off of doing business with you over your board personas and fights with everybody.

Relax a bit man. I honestly don't think you are helping yourself.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by mafia_man

How do you copyright what MFC gives away?

Performances given that are not impromptu (e.g., running down the street naked on drugs, dancing topless "when you're wasted" at a party = impromptu) are automatically copyright. We, like most other adult webcam broadcasters are 'for-profit' entities and the performers grant copyright license to us so that we may legally broadcast their performance.

Both Free Chat and Private Chat are copyright -- they are planned performances broadcast, additionally with commercial intent. For all intents and purposes; they are the same as a television air broadcast -- publicly accessible copyright broadcasts.

[CamTraffic]

that's some serious accusations over there, you got proof?


And nobody gives a damn about your chicks, so stop posting banners in every Fucking post you make

[lagcam]

I can't find a real "somebody died" thread to bump, so I will do this one.

Shouldn't be on page 4

[fris]

shit enough with the ugly asian spamming already

[KBHMN]

Originally Posted by lagcam

You have some beautiful girls on your site KBHMN but I am sure I am not the only person who has been scared off of doing business with you over your board personas and fights with everybody.

Relax a bit man. I honestly don't think you are helping yourself.

My persona is straight up and brutally honest. I know that can tend to put some people off, but oh well. I am not in this business for friends... I am in this business for money. Friends are incidental byproducts of the relationships I develop, and I know who my friends are. No need to name drop, but my friends are both honorable, and open minded leaders who do not follow the crowd like some pussy-ass sheep do here on the boards, which is what is important to me.

My "fights with everybody" I think is more accurately described as my fights with the trikepatrol crew specifically for their dishonesty and "Donny Long" tactics. Fuck them. If they want to do stupid things, then I have a right to address their stupidity when it concerns me. As for my fights with RJCastle... let's put that into perspective shall we? I don't fight with him... ever. I laugh at him always. He is an angry little shrew that wishes he was a player in this game. Whoopty-do... he is a nobody. No credibility, no style, no influence, nothing. When some geek like Rjcastle (AKA "Captain Kawaii" here on GFY) comes out on a couple of boards and announces that he will take pleasure in the news of someone's death, I think it is pretty clear how much of a petty insignificant cry baby he is to even be taking this shit so seriously. Rj, Its the internet moron... you have no clue who I am. Do I make you mad? Good!

If a person is standing up for himself on an industry board is what makes you choose personally to deny yourself the opportunity to profit from that persons product because you are "scared", so be it. Ir's your choice of course. Some people choose popularity on boards and are concerned with what their peers think of them personally. Some choose money and could care less what others think.

My affiliates who do push HMN are happy with the money they earn and ignore all the prissy little personality clashes on the boards. My personal belief is those affiliates who do ignore it, are themselves also in this business to make money... and making virtual friends via the internet is the furthest from their concern.

$,$$$,$$$.$$ is what this SHOULD be all about. We could be sitting here flaming each other every day for years... but if you are pushing my product and earning a lot of money, I could care less what you say here on the boards because it is inconsequential to doing business with surfers what is said here. Call me a flaming cock sucker all day every day. I could care less. If you happen to be making sales, I don't care what you say on a board as you have a right to your honest opinion!

The only time I will shit-can an affiliates account is if he is doing something really dumb like misrepresenting my product, carding, or behaving in a very reckless manner where he happens to be promoting my product that puts others in danger. If I am the affiliate of a sponsor who even goes as far as behaving in a very bizarre manner on the boards, calling me a shit stain every 5 minutes or whatever, but his product is earning me good money, what the fuck do I care what he does on the boards? I have a tough enough exterior and don't feel the need to be taking what is said for opinions on the boards personally.

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

that's some serious accusations over there, you got proof?

And nobody gives a damn about your chicks, so stop posting banners in every Fucking post you make

Yes. Did I get the font size right?

...and what a surprise when someone in the cam industry is a bit bent out of shape about who I am working with. Funny how some cam site operators get butt-hurt when they find out that I met and fucked one (or several) of the models on his site... Bummer, cry.

Hey... that wouldn't happen to be "Brianna" from sea-qteaze.com in the top right of this image from your affiliate program page would it? Is MT licensing out his content?



And I like to share pictures. If you don't appreciate it, I am supposed to give a flying fuck? You think you can tell another grown man what to do? Who are you?

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by KBHMN

And my all time FAVORITE!!!
1) Porn producer has 4 premium accounts, one of them being platinum premium
2) Leo finds out porn producer is talking to models about (SHOCKS!! ) doing videos.
3) Leo gets jealous
4) Porn producer finds all four premium accounts with money still on them banned.
5) (Bonus for really enterprising webmasters) add filter to site so that any time ANY customer even mentions banned porn producers website, customer gets banned on suspicion that he might be that pesky porn producer again.

I don't even have a basic free account on MFC but I know quite a few webmasters and photogs who talk to MFC girls about modeling, video work etc and never heard of MFC interfering or banning them.

Maybe he deals with Asians differently.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by KBHMN

I thought it was only MFC stealing from models.

MFC business strategy that works well... (for new cam sites looking to emulate MFC)
1) Approve underage model.
2) Allow underage model to continue working all the way up to cuttoff, even after several complaints from several customers.
3) SURPRISE underage model with the news that she has been banned... RIGHT after cutoff, but BEFORE payment is sent. Keep all the money including models earnings.

And another one of my personal favorites...
1) Leo requests model for sex, model declines.
2) Models boss steps in and wants to know why Leo is harassing her model... gets in heated argument with Leo, and boss tells Leo to fuck off.
3) Leo continues to harass said model demanding the street address of the (Philippines) studio after already informing said model that he has already helped NBI raid MANY other studios in the Philippines. Leo continues to tell said model that she will be "well taken care of" if she helps him get the studio raided...
4) Model shows loyalty to her boss and tells Leo to kick rocks.
5) Models account is deleted as if it never existed robbing model loyal to her studio boss of every dollar she has earned.

This one's good too...
1) Big spender buys a lot of tokens between 2 premium accounts.
2) Big spender logs in from another country (he travels for business) using same laptop but is denied access to account.
3) Big spender emails MFC to ask why his account is being blocked
4) MFC never replies to and ignores repeated emails.
5) Big spender decided to find new cam site to do business with.

And my all time FAVORITE!!!
1) Porn producer has 4 premium accounts, one of them being platinum premium
2) Leo finds out porn producer is talking to models about (SHOCKS!! ) doing videos.
3) Leo gets jealous
4) Porn producer finds all four premium accounts with money still on them banned.
5) (Bonus for really enterprising webmasters) add filter to site so that any time ANY customer even mentions banned porn producers website, customer gets banned on suspicion that he might be that pesky porn producer again.

Those are some pretty serious allegations.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by KBHMN

Someone stealing from MFC? Hmmm that's a twist. I thought it was only MFC stealing from models.

MFC business strategy that works well... (for new cam sites looking to emulate MFC)
1) Approve underage model.
2) Allow underage model to continue working all the way up to cuttoff, even after several complaints from several customers.
3) SURPRISE underage model with the news that she has been banned... RIGHT after cutoff, but BEFORE payment is sent. Keep all the money including models earnings.

And another one of my personal favorites...
1) Leo requests model for sex, model declines.
2) Models boss steps in and wants to know why Leo is harassing her model... gets in heated argument with Leo, and boss tells Leo to fuck off.
3) Leo continues to harass said model demanding the street address of the (Philippines) studio after already informing said model that he has already helped NBI raid MANY other studios in the Philippines. Leo continues to tell said model that she will be "well taken care of" if she helps him get the studio raided...
4) Model shows loyalty to her boss and tells Leo to kick rocks.
5) Models account is deleted as if it never existed robbing model loyal to her studio boss of every dollar she has earned.

This one's good too...
1) Big spender buys a lot of tokens between 2 premium accounts.
2) Big spender logs in from another country (he travels for business) using same laptop but is denied access to account.
3) Big spender emails MFC to ask why his account is being blocked
4) MFC never replies to and ignores repeated emails.
5) Big spender decided to find new cam site to do business with.

And my all time FAVORITE!!!
1) Porn producer has 4 premium accounts, one of them being platinum premium
2) Leo finds out porn producer is talking to models about (SHOCKS!! ) doing videos.
3) Leo gets jealous
4) Porn producer finds all four premium accounts with money still on them banned.
5) (Bonus for really enterprising webmasters) add filter to site so that any time ANY customer even mentions banned porn producers website, customer gets banned on suspicion that he might be that pesky porn producer again.

[LatinaCrazy]

There is more stolen content on this site than just MFC.

Cam girls and studios that work under age should loose their money. It is bad for all of us.

We have lost several premium accounts at MFC for recruiting... I cant blame them though, who wants to loose a profit centre, no one.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by KBHMN

And I like to share pictures.

i dont know u, and i dont really judge guys on gfy for how they behave, especially when attacked here (we all get attacked) - i just want to mention the picture sharing is creative. i rarely look at sigs unless there is a picture (not a banner). your picture sharing marketing strategy is a good way to increase awareness about your program. if guys don't like it, they can easily put u on their ignore list. if they dont, that means they want to read what u write.

gfy is full of assholes, but that's just because gfy ALLOWS us to be assholes. most of us work a lot of hours, alone (or with kids screaming outside the door), and stare at our monitors way too long to be healthy. gfy has always been the place to let off some steam during or after a hard session of work. if i spend 3 hours answering support questions - and being nice - i need to be a dick for a few minutes. thats why i come to gfy.

i defend myself against attacks, but i dont take it personally and i definitely dont take it outside gfy. im not going to drown my sorrows in a scotch because some idiot said bad things about me. he probably just had a bad day (or is an inadequate fuck). no big deal lol

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by KBHMN

"No means yes"?

I don't think billers like it when you suggest rape on a site.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Maybe he deals with Asians differently.

Many of the Asians are literally labor slaves. Everyone knows it, no one wants to talk about it. Best for those studios to keep them under wraps so no one can catch them and charge them with Human Trafficking, which is life in prison in a country like the Philippines.

When you see "help me please I want to escape" being typed by the girls as tears stream down their face, sometimes they mean it.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by plsureking

gfy is full of assholes, but that's just because gfy ALLOWS us to be assholes. most of us work a lot of hours, alone (or with kids screaming outside the door), and stare at our monitors way too long to be healthy. gfy has always been the place to let off some steam during or after a hard session of work. if i spend 3 hours answering support questions - and being nice - i need to be a dick for a few minutes. thats why i come to gfy.

i defend myself against attacks, but i dont take it personally and i definitely dont take it outside gfy. im not going to drown my sorrows in a scotch because some idiot said bad things about me. he probably just had a bad day (or is an inadequate fuck). no big deal lol

Fuck you.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by DWB

Fuck you.

kap kun kap

Originally Posted by DWB

When you see "help me please I want to escape" being typed by the girls as tears stream down their face, sometimes they mean it.

holy cheese. have u seen that before?