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Antonio 10-01-2011 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Odin (Post 18461636)
Here is your problem. You are a hard worker, but you are looking for a quick fix. This shit blows up, and then dies off. At this point, if you want traffic, focus on building a good site, in a field which you have a chance. Build it into a legitimate website, that users like, that Google likes (which day by day is becoming closer to the exact same thing - it is getting harder to trick Google), and that can give you a sustainable income. I'm making around $10k a month right now in mainstream off 2 sites. I work maybe 5 hours a week on them, if that. Building a legitimate, sustainable business also allows you to invest in talented people, or other projects. Just my opinion.
Nope, there is no way I am going to do what I did in adult - spending years developing sites, so I can lose 95% of my income overnight. Way too risky and probably good strategy for someone in their 20s or just starting out, but not for me. If I go that route, I would probably outsource everything and only invest 10% or less of what I make into anything remotely long-term.

Minte 10-01-2011 02:23 PM
We have 3 internet affiliates selling one of our product lines. They each have a processing account but we drop ship to the customers as orders come in. We give them 30 day terms.
Of the three, one has sold $376,000 so far this year. He makes 40% of that. The second one has sold just over $110k and the third has sold just over $55k.
My suggestion is look for a product you know something about. Contact the manufacturer and set up terms with them. The only investment our affiliates made were the websites and their time. I expect all three of them will continue to grow their sales.

Odin 10-01-2011 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 18463177)
Nope, there is no way I am going to do what I did in adult - spending years developing sites, so I can lose 95% of my income overnight. Way too risky and probably good strategy for someone in their 20s or just starting out, but not for me. If I go that route, I would probably outsource everything and only invest 10% or less of what I make into anything remotely long-term.
Had similar experiences too :) What has worked for me in mainstream is creating or acquiring solid content. Not Indian written stuff, but legitimate stuff that becomes an authority in its field. It's nice when you go around acquiring back-links and people WANT to link to you, or others just add your links to Wikipedia, etc because the content is good. If you're interested in heading down this path feel free to hit me up. There are a few ways to go about this though.

PornStarToys 10-01-2011 03:58 PM
If you have access to lots of money, come up with an energy drink like Cheetah Jizz or something.

INever 10-01-2011 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18463228)
We have 3 internet affiliates selling one of our product lines. They each have a processing account but we drop ship to the customers as orders come in. We give them 30 day terms.
Of the three, one has sold $376,000 so far this year. He makes 40% of that. The second one has sold just over $110k and the third has sold just over $55k.
My suggestion is look for a product you know something about. Contact the manufacturer and set up terms with them. The only investment our affiliates made were the websites and their time. I expect all three of them will continue to grow their sales.
Why wouldn't these affiliates eventually go direct?

Is it just to much of a hassle to get that extra % of rev?

Robbie 10-01-2011 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by INever (Post 18463431)
Why wouldn't these affiliates eventually go direct?

Is it just to much of a hassle to get that extra % of rev?
I'd like to know what it is that Minte is selling. And if I could get in as an affiliate too.

NetHorse 10-01-2011 05:45 PM
Nice thread. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 18458781)
you need to find the next big thing, that's where the real money is in mainstream
:2 cents:

Timing has a lot to do with it.

For example, when DirectTV started offering their NFL package free it was a great thing to push BEFORE they nationally advertised when the Football season started.

Kindle Fire, is a good one right now, or was. A day or two makes all the difference, dump $10,000-$20,000 in advertising on a hot product before anyone else and watch the $$$ roll in.

Mainstream is huge as long as you're on-top of the trends and have a good system. Don't expect to sell acai products and become a millionaire.

jimmycooper 10-01-2011 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18462024)
That's not a bad idea at all.
My problem is all my traffic is adult. Are there companies with affiliate programs that would allow me to promote them on adult sites?
Yes, but you have to be persuasive. I started to make this Valentines Day related site back in January but ended up having to move and did not have enough time to finish it and promote it so it only generated a few sales. It's high end lingerie promoted in tandem with adult paysites.
http://valentines.starletsheet.com/

Right now I'm working on a network of financial related site that will be used as a means to promote a book that's set to be published on November 8th (titled Laughing At Wall Street). None of the sites are live yet, I'm behind schedule, and things are stressful, but things do look promising.

jimmycooper 10-01-2011 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18462024)
That's not a bad idea at all.
My problem is all my traffic is adult. Are there companies with affiliate programs that would allow me to promote them on adult sites?
Oh, there's also T-Shirt Hell. Nothing to make a bunch of money on, but I've made a few sales by strategically placing ads for specific t-shirts on subject relevant pages. An acquaintance of mine claims to have even sent sales from this site, so I think it's reasonable to assume that they don't mind adult traffic. http://www.skibunniesfucked.com/

Minte 10-01-2011 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by INever (Post 18463431)
Why wouldn't these affiliates eventually go direct?

Is it just to much of a hassle to get that extra % of rev?
My company is the manufacturer,so they are going direct.

Spunky 10-01-2011 07:14 PM
Mobile diaper service

GAMEFINEST 10-01-2011 07:33 PM
im slowly going mainstream....

Badmaash 10-02-2011 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 18459396)
This is more or less what I am thinking of doing as well, but just developing the sites and selling them. I totally agree on the adsense part, not that it can't ad up, but with the number of accounts that they are suspending left and right, it is way too rusky...

And I might as well contribute a bit to the thread as well - this is what has been working quite well for me:
on an aged site:

- I find a low competition keyword related to the site's niche
- add a new post, targeting that keyword
- do 100 or so bookmarks with Boookmarkin Demon
- create 20 or so Web 2's with SE Nuke
- blast the heck out of the Web 2 with all I got (article links, profile links, you name it)
- do some contextual links (I use AMR and wordpress blogs that I have in my list)

I see results almost immediately.... Of course, you can outsource all this instead of doing it on your own, then just rinse and repeat. The link-selling is pretty good idea - it can help you recover some costs and make money even if you can't sell the site.

"blast the heck out of the Web 2 with all I got (article links, profile links, you name it)"

You blast Web 2 with SE Nuke? Or you manually do it?

xholly 10-02-2011 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18460130)
Look around you at things you use every day and that people pay for monthly. Electricity, Natual Gas, Internet, Pay TV, Credit Cards etc then get yourself in between the consumer and the provider then take your cut.

As I have mentioned in other threads, I run electricity plan comparison sites, people can compare plans from different providers and then choose one through my site for a saving, I get paid a commission for every monthly bill that they pay for the life of the customers relationship with the company, keep building like that and it's easy passive income.
Hey mate can i hit you up about this some time? I don't want to copy im just curious about the process you go through contacting companies and setting up this sort of thing when they don't run normal affiliate programs.

MaxCandy 10-02-2011 05:45 AM
Great read, thanks

Mr Pheer 10-02-2011 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 18464061)
"blast the heck out of the Web 2 with all I got (article links, profile links, you name it)"

You blast Web 2 with SE Nuke? Or you manually do it?
SENukeX is good shit for easily dominating the lower-competition keywords.

Takes some more advanced software and strategy to get to the top of the more competitive keywords.

Badmaash 10-02-2011 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 18464085)
SENukeX is good shit for easily dominating the lower-competition keywords.

Takes some more advanced software and strategy to get to the top of the more competitive keywords.
What is the name of the advanced software?

Thanks

Nasty 10-02-2011 09:31 AM
The big money in mainstream comes from convincing people you know where the big money in mainstream is and then selling a product that shares that secret to all the sheep looking for the big money in mainstream :2 cents:

Argos88 10-02-2011 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Nasty (Post 18464308)
The big money in mainstream comes from convincing people you know where the big money in mainstream is and then selling a product that shares that secret to all the sheep looking for the big money in mainstream :2 cents:
thats wrong.. I cant believe you guys have no idea about mainstream.. not even a remote idea..

why don't you spend at least 1 hour informing and learning a bit?

im surpreised 99% of adult webmasters think that mainstream is either scamming people with cookie cuter clickbank offers or selling worthless stuff..

never did that and I don't knwo any mainstream webmaster who does bank, doing that..

if you want long term business you need to add value and increase your empire.. those practices you describe are for the short term non serious people.

Nasty 10-02-2011 11:23 AM
you missed my point, not much you can build these days that can make you the kind of money a "successful" JV roll-out can make you and if you think mainstream scams people less than adult, your naive.

And I make pretty good money on those clickbank offers btw

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Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 18464406)
thats wrong.. I cant believe you guys have no idea about mainstream.. not even a remote idea..

why don't you spend at least 1 hour informing and learning a bit?

im surpreised 99% of adult webmasters think that mainstream is either scamming people with cookie cuter clickbank offers or selling worthless stuff..

never did that and I don't knwo any mainstream webmaster who does bank, doing that..

if you want long term business you need to add value and increase your empire.. those practices you describe are for the short term non serious people.

jimmycooper 10-02-2011 11:27 AM
I think that good ideas in general, whether in mainstream or adult or whatever, are often the byproduct of combining two previously unrelated concepts in a new and unique way. For example, a friend of mine just recently applied the Seat Guru model to cruise ships. It's Deck Plan Genius. Talk about a strong internal linking strategy..

Profits of Doom 10-02-2011 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 18464406)
thats wrong.. I cant believe you guys have no idea about mainstream.. not even a remote idea..

why don't you spend at least 1 hour informing and learning a bit?

im surpreised 99% of adult webmasters think that mainstream is either scamming people with cookie cuter clickbank offers or selling worthless stuff..

never did that and I don't knwo any mainstream webmaster who does bank, doing that..

if you want long term business you need to add value and increase your empire.. those practices you describe are for the short term non serious people.
No that isn't wrong, and if you don't know a mainstream webmaster that is making bank doing that then you are in the bottom rung of webmasters making beer money on blogs and waiting for someone to hold your hand and show you the way. One well written WSO on Warrior Forum will bring in far more cash in a few days than any of your blogs selling ad spots will in a year.

For the people that actually have a clue and aren't just whining I'll give you a hint. If you are able to post WSO's use a third party or secondary account on Warrior Forum to contact some of the respected members and offer to show them your product and cut them in on a small percentage of sales if they endorse your product on your WSO. There is obviously more to it and I'm certainly not going to map it out and hold anyone's hand, but it's done every day and there is a shitload of money to be made if done correctly...

AdultKing 10-02-2011 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18464068)
Hey mate can i hit you up about this some time? I don't want to copy im just curious about the process you go through contacting companies and setting up this sort of thing when they don't run normal affiliate programs.
Sure hit me up on ICQ first, then I'll tell you how to reach me on Skype, happy to share.


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