its so funny watching the uneducated blame Bush for deficits while HE was president but explain that obama's deficits aren't his.:1orglaugh

i would retort that the threats of default & govt shutdowns each time a spending bill comes up, & the creation of the supercommittee, are all the consequence of the tea party votes in the house.

what i say to dems is this. We see the tea party vision for medicare. its to "de-entitle" it, make it a voucher & leave seniors to the profiteering of the monopolistic health insurers. What is the dem alternative. The status quo is financially unsustainable. Only the dems can make the hard choices to reduce benefits while maintaining the entitlement is available to all seniors.

2012 is going to be a referendum on whether the public is more afraid of the deficit, or losing entitlement benefits.

it is funny to see how all the well to do business men did it on their own...im talking big corps not small fry porn moguls...btw...so keep your panties on everyone.

Where they live and grew up, the schools they went to, public or private, the roads they drive on, the sidewalks they used to walk to school. the safety level in going to a bank machine without fearing to be kidnapped. Rapid access to some of the best healthcare in the world, genetic engineering them their own damn cold heart to replace when it finally shrivels up....none of these things mentioned helped them at all.

Of course the fact that the people they hire in their home country are educated, and know better then to stick their hands in a dangerous machine(usually) didnt help them either.
yep...these proud men, went out into the wilderness, and carved out their own empire

everyone stand back and clap for them.

they have apparently paid back enough.
time to move your business out of country and slash costs.

Kudos to you minte for not moving...i am sure the quality of your work wouldn't change if you were in mexico ;)

I was thinking more a the local level, the districts they're over. While I'm sure someone has cut spending... you would think all of them would be echoing at the local level what they plan on doing at the federal level. By them not doing that... it kinda shows they're full of shit.

I didn't know the tea party did the super committee, I thought Obama came up with that completely stupid, unconstitutional, sub-congress.

Medicare was perfectly fine before all the States invested the money into the markets and lost all of the money in the 08 crash. Well of course "now" it's a problem.

Vouchers are extremely bad ideas... how about some real logic, regulate the medical industry like every other fucking country in the world! Bam, problems solved! Yep, pills should not cost $300 here and $6 for the exact same thing in Mexico, profit is fine, but come on - it's killing our Country now!

Entitlement programs are paid for.... just get the damn politicians to leave the the hell alone and they would be perfectly fine.

sums up that most facebook users are morons nicely, like people in general. Stupid idiots only ramble about what he said about dreaming about another recession, completely missing the huge picture about how the banks rule the world and not the puppets they vote on. Christ the guy even gave a tip for the people how to act when shit hits the fan. Truth scares the sheep and makes them turn on the one telling it.

Yes, exactly! This is an interesting study in mass psychology. People do not want to hear the truth even if it helps them. They do not want to admit they have been living in a warped reality because they have too much time and effort working/existing in the one presented by the media.

the so-called trading expert and analyst.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...-a-trader.html

In the interview Mr Rastani described himself as an independent trader. Elsewhere he claims he's an "investment speaker". Instead of operating from a plush office in Canary Wharf Mr Rastani works and lives with his partner Anita Eader in a £200,000 semi in Bexleyheath, south London. The house, complete with a mortgage from Royal Bank of Scotland, belongs to her not him.

He is a business owner, a 99pc shareholder in public speaking venture Santoro Projects. Its most recent accounts show cash in the bank of £985. After four years trading net assets are £10,048 - in the red.

How a man who has never been authorised by the Financial Services Authority and has no discernible history working for a City institution ended up being interviewed by the BBC remains a mystery.

"They approached me," he told The Telegraph. "I'm an attention seeker. That is the main reason I speak. That is the reason I agreed to go on the BBC. Trading is a like a hobby. It is not a business. I am a talker. I talk a lot. I love the whole idea of public speaking."

Are you talking to yourself again? No, are YOU talking to yourself again?

everyone else got the very same opportunity. The "well to do businessman" then went above and beyond the rest of the lemmings and risked his capital to build a business that created jobs for the lemmings who think earning a living is standing in a line for a job created by someone else.

I don't think I pay for everything and didn't say I did. I said I am part of the group of US citizens that pay for the majority of the things that most in the US enjoys.

I could move my business to Mars and run it from Wisconsin. Technology has made it quite easy to make important fluid decisions no matter where I am.

I also didn't say do 6 figures a week. I said cover the payroll which is 6 figures a week.
Sales are obviously more than payroll.

And when you have experienced the same things in life I have then we might have something in common. The difference is significant. These words we discuss on a BBS are far more than words for me. I have to deal with the consequences of the governments actions on a real day to day basis.

You read about tax relief. Have you ever gone through an unannounced OSHA visit? Another form of tax for business. Our last OSHA visit cost us $5,750. for two items. An airhose that had the wrong nozzle and an electrical box that had knockouts.

How about a DNR permit. For our recent addition we had less than 1/2 an acre of land that fell into the wetlands category because of indigenous plant life. Not standing water. The fees so far including mitigation have been over $20,000. Then there is an impact fee for simply hooking up to the water main for the plants sprinkler system. That is 22,000.
These are all taxes on business that no one reads about on Politco. Yet they do exist.
We pay annual fees to at least 6 different state and federal agencies.

Should I go on?

I understood that it was payroll and you would make more than that. I didn't say you pay for everything, it says everyone. After that I did say "everything you have, ever done, ever will do, was paid for by past generations of people" anyway....

I don't deal with OSHA, but I've spent $3 million dollars fighting the tax man over $10 million, they got $60k, and it cost us $3 million. Ever had to pay your way into Country before? Yeah, talk about fees, regs, rules, money.. yeah.

Edit: I think it was less than 3m... but not a shit ton or anything, we spent 4 total across 3 lawsuits, the tax one was huge either way, but I think the other one (not related to anything we're talking about) was the bigger one, then one small one, which.... was taken all the way to Supreme Court of Canada, we won.

We all have unique experiences, fees, fines, permits, etc to put up with, depending on the business we do, this is the cost of doing business.

I love big dick contests though, we can keep going if you like.

You're a silly whiner who appears to have difficulty reading and even more difficulty writing.

I know little about your personal situation but you talk like a complete fraud. All bluster and aggression with never any substance or thoughtfullness.

And whenever you get confused you resort to a pointless adhominem. The last refuge of the man who has run out of actual arguments.

No, I'm not rich, I don't desire to pursue more money than I need. I own land and a house paid off completely with porn money, have a cute smart wife, nice car, money in the bank and in retirement accounts and boxes of gold and silver, enough tools and assets to make storage a hassle, I'm living the american dream. Humbly enough, but I'm secure and have few worries.

So blow me, dickless author of lame oneliners.

Osha is one of the reasons I got out of construction. On the other hand I have a foster brother who is blind because a hydraulic hose broke off and hit him in the face. He's collected something like millions in social security and disability because his employer was negligent and he was working in a no-sue state.

So, which is better - your 5k or his millions?

Why are you bitching about taxes in one breath, and then about regulations in the other - why not be consistent and be politically active about regulations, and do your best to get them looked at with a closer eye by politicians and media?

In a libertarian society you could go ahead and fuck up your wetlands - and then be sued by everybody who had an interest downstream. Which is cheaper - your payment of fees, or dozens or hundreds of lawsuits?

If you want to be able to destroy your wetlands, then support population control. We can't keep packing more and more people into the same space, and pretending that when you damage something in that space that it has no effect on the crowding neighbors.