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  • Tempest
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2004
    • 10217

    #1

    Payoneer in trouble? And what about Paxum...

    There was this thread

    http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1038660

    And today I got an email from ScoreCash about trouble wiring money to Payoneer. Apparently the bank returned the wire saying that it was "internal Risk management".

    Payoneer responded with

    "We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We found out that there is a technical problem in accepting wires through Commerzbank. Choice bank is in the process of transitioning to another correspondent bank. We've had some problems with wires getting "lost" or rejected, so at this point please use our alternative bank account to send funds for cards loading.

    Earthport is a business partner of ours who is under contract to provide wiring clearinghouse services for Payoneer.
    Typically wires to Earthport arrive within two days. Please note that the instructions include a dedicated VAN [Virtual Account Number] that needs to be quoted in your wire entries, under remittance information or additional instructions ."
    However, Earthport isn't a bank but is some other payment processor.

    The reason I mention Paxum, is because the Mastercard is also thru Choice Bank. So if they're having troubles getting wires could it affect Paxum as well?
  • RuthB
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    • May 2005
    • 7248

    #2
    Wires to Paxum have been reaching us without any issues.
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    • halfpint
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      • Jun 2007
      • 15223

      #3
      After epass I will never use another adult online payment system ...just saying

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      • tranza
        ICQ: 197-556-237
        • Jun 2003
        • 57559

        #4
        Uhmm.. That's kind of scary.

        I think I only have $1000 at Payoneer right now, but I'm going out to withdrawal it ASAP.

        I can't afford to risk another Epass.

        I'm just a newbie.

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        • Gabriel
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          • Apr 2002
          • 4789

          #5
          Yep they had issues with their bank earlier this week. It looks to be resolved now, as our wires have cleared.
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          • baddog
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 107089

            #6
            nah, nothing to worry about

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            • RandyD
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              • May 2007
              • 283

              #7
              Blahhh noone REALLY trusts either of these epass replacements, do they!?
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              • Gambrinus
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                • Jun 2007
                • 740

                #8
                I didn't get my regularly scheduled payout from a media revenue program via Paxum last week. There is some mention on their forum about bank trouble when someone else was asking about a missing payout for the same period.

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                • BIGTYMER
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                  • Nov 2004
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                  #9

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                  • Lace
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 16116

                    #10
                    Originally posted by halfpint
                    After epass I will never use another adult online payment system ...just saying
                    Me either. Out of the two times I've used epass, I got screwed the second time with money in there that I'll never see.

                    As I've always said, I'll stick to checks. Not much effort in running to the bank once a week with checks. I do my weekly errands then too.
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                    • iSpyCams
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                      • May 2009
                      • 4436

                      #11
                      I had to send 3 wires last week to get my affiliates paid. The first one direct to Belize was rejected, the second is still MIA since Sept. 14th and the third went through.
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                      • xarizmendi
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 94

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gambrinus
                        I didn't get my regularly scheduled payout from a media revenue program via Paxum last week. There is some mention on their forum about bank trouble when someone else was asking about a missing payout for the same period.
                        did they ever pay you?

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                        • tonyfgsoprano
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                          • Jul 2009
                          • 91

                          #13
                          Originally posted by halfpint
                          After epass I will never use another adult online payment system ...just saying
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                          • lagcam
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                            • Jul 2007
                            • 2890

                            #14
                            This is an interesting thread that contains a lot of recurring themes or coincidences.

                            Without drawing any specific conclusion from the following, I note that.

                            Prior to their demise, Epassporte had some banks that wouldn't wire to them also, even when said bank was only acting as an intermediary.

                            Earthport have been around for at least 10 years. I remember flying to the UK to meet with them about payments systems when I worked for an international online SPORTSBOOK.

                            More recently, I saw that Earthport was the name that appeared on my bank statement after requesting a withdrawal from Alertpay who have also been having trouble with acquirers. (not surprising for such a half assed outfit)

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                            • AdultKing
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 15601

                              #15
                              Some of you guys obviously don't realize how huge Payoneer is outside of adult, many big affiliate networks pay using it. I am not saying Payoneer is any more immune from troubles than any other financial company, however as opposed to E-Passporte they really are much bigger and have their act together.

                              I get massive payments from some mainstream programs using Payoneer, never once has there been an issue. I get a couple of Adult Payments too and again it's always fine.

                              I think the thread title is misleading.

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                              • Tempest
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • May 2004
                                • 10217

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AdultKing
                                I get massive payments from some mainstream programs using Payoneer, never once has there been an issue. I get a couple of Adult Payments too and again it's always fine.

                                I think the thread title is misleading.
                                How is it misleading? Wires not going through and having to change to Earthport isn't "trouble"? Ok then...

                                There was another thread on here that I couldn't find again which also had to do with the US government going after US citizens moving money to foreign entities and how banks are up in arms about it. There was a paragraph in the article that raised some alarms with me as it could affect things like Payoneer and Paxum if the legislation goes through as there would be tighter restrictions by the banks.

                                As for you getting affiliate payments... Yeah.. To date there have been few issues... But if those programs can't get money into Payoneer or they start to view it as risky, that could change very quickly. Look how fast things happened with ePassporte.

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                                • Tempest
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                                  • May 2004
                                  • 10217

                                  #17
                                  http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/the-a...tal-americans/

                                  Meanwhile, banking will become more difficult within the United States. FATCA will hold banks liable for any ?improper? transfer of money to outside the United States. The Wealth Report, a financial analysis site, states,
                                  ?U.S. banks will be desperately trying to cover their liability by checking the exact purpose of the payment, to make sure it doesn?t come within the scope of the legislation. The burden of proof will naturally pass to the account holder who is trying to transfer money, to demonstrate that the transaction is not subject to the new withholding tax. If the sending bank in the USA has any doubt at all about the purpose of the transaction, they will be forced to deduct 30% tax. Net result? It is going to be darned difficult for anyone to transfer money out of the USA. If that isn?t a form of currency control, then I don?t know what is! (emphasis original)?

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                                  • Due
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                                    • 3620

                                    #18
                                    Damn that's some serious shit. That could easily limit foreign investments in usa if you can't pull your proffits out easily
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                                    • INever
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                                      #19
                                      From within the US, how hard could it (ever) be(come) to ship pre-loaded debit cards requiring PIN numbers?
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                                      • Gambrinus
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                                        • Jun 2007
                                        • 740

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by xarizmendi
                                        did they ever pay you?
                                        Not yet.

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                                        • seeme
                                          Stephen
                                          • Jun 2011
                                          • 840

                                          #21
                                          Just don't use these places as a bank account to store your money, it might be tempting for tax reasons but is it worth the risk of loosing it all

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                                          • Black All Through
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                                            • Oct 2010
                                            • 2078

                                            #22
                                            12 months back I remember all the Paxum haters flooding the board with all kinds of shit. I get wire payments through Paxum cheaper, faster and better than any of my banks. It's getting a pain in the ass at the atm pulling out thousands at the time, but like many of you I got fucked over by epass and refuse to leave more than $100 in my account.
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                                            • DWB
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                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 31779

                                              #23
                                              Smoke > Fire

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                                              • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                • Sep 2010
                                                • 337

                                                #24
                                                Hi everyone,

                                                Sorry for the delay in responding, as you may haev seen on other posts, I was at a conference in London.

                                                The problem with wiring funds is something we are aware of, but as mentioned above, we do have an alternative way to do so.

                                                There are no funding problems at Payoneer and we DO mostly operate outside of the adult world. Without dogging anyone company out there, we are not a replacement company, but one that is even in business with Fortune 100 companies, and work with many banks around the world.

                                                I know after all the ePass issues, anything any of us say is lip service, but with over 1,400 partners and well over 1.2 cardholders worldwide, our service has continued interrupted for the most past - almost all partners have gotten their funds through and all but a couple have already been returned from those that originally bounced (from wherever they bounced from).

                                                If anyone hasn't yet (excluding @pompousjohn who I am already in touch with), please contact me at [email protected].

                                                I would like to reiterate: ALL payments have gone through to users, not one has been missing or taken. Not in the adult sector and not in the mainstream sector. Once the payment from the sponsors goes through, it is immediately sent to the users.
                                                Talia Klein
                                                Director of Community at Payoneer
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                                                • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                  • Sep 2010
                                                  • 337

                                                  #25
                                                  Um, continued UNinterrupted. Jet lag. Whoops.
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                                                  • CaptainHowdy
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                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                    • 94742

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                    Um, continued UNinterrupted. Jet lag. Whoops.

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                                                    • BareBacked
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                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                      • 3685

                                                      #27
                                                      IMO only a fool would leave more than $100 in any of these wallets
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                                                      • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                        • Sep 2010
                                                        • 337

                                                        #28
                                                        We aren't a wallet, that's the difference. The money is in the bank account until you use it.

                                                        CaptainHowdy - touche :-) Either way, you won't find one complaint of a payment that hasn't gone through :-)
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                                                        • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                          • Sep 2010
                                                          • 337

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                          Hi everyone,

                                                          well over 1.2 cardholders worldwide.
                                                          Oh, goodness. 1.2 MILLION cardholders wordlwide.

                                                          I can haz spellcheck.
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                                                          • suesheboy
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                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 5211

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                            our service has continued interrupted for the most past - almost all partners have gotten their funds through and all but a couple have already been returned from those that originally bounced (from wherever they bounced from).
                                                            Are you bigger than Lehman Brothers or Enron were?

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                                                            • BareBacked
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                                                              • Feb 2007
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                              We aren't a wallet, that's the difference. The money is in the bank account until you use it.

                                                              CaptainHowdy - touche :-) Either way, you won't find one complaint of a payment that hasn't gone through :-)
                                                              You say tomato I say tomato

                                                              I would not leave any money in any of these "adult" b2b payment services
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                                                              • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                                • Sep 2010
                                                                • 337

                                                                #32
                                                                We aren't an adult service. Adult isn't even the majority of our clients, just part of them. But everyone needs to do what feels right to them. I'm not here to try to convince anyone to do something they don't want to do.
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                                                                • Dubya
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                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                  • 1152

                                                                  #33
                                                                  you're pretty Talia, single? fwb? nsa? lmk kthx

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                                                                  • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                                    • Sep 2010
                                                                    • 337

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Thanks, Dubya! I just got married a few months ago, sorry, but thanks :-)
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                                                                    • BareBacked
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                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                      • 3685

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                                      We aren't an adult service. Adult isn't even the majority of our clients, just part of them. But everyone needs to do what feels right to them. I'm not here to try to convince anyone to do something they don't want to do.
                                                                      Do you have to have the last word with your husband too ?

                                                                      LOL have a great day.
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                                                                      • BareBacked
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Who owns payoneer ?
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                                                                        • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                                          • Sep 2010
                                                                          • 337

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by BareBacked
                                                                          Do you have to have the last word with your husband too ?

                                                                          LOL have a great day.
                                                                          Luckily we agree on things. But then again, I"m not paid to talk in our relationship. I just do it for fun.
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                                                                          • Dubya
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Feb 2008
                                                                            • 1152

                                                                            #38
                                                                            please ban her

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                                                                            • Harmon
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 20012

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Sounds legit.
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                                                                              • Anal Hobbit
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                • 2308

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                                                Hi everyone,

                                                                                Sorry for the delay in responding, as you may haev seen on other posts, I was at a conference in London.

                                                                                The problem with wiring funds is something we are aware of, but as mentioned above, we do have an alternative way to do so.

                                                                                There are no funding problems at Payoneer and we DO mostly operate outside of the adult world. Without dogging anyone company out there, we are not a replacement company, but one that is even in business with Fortune 100 companies, and work with many banks around the world.

                                                                                I know after all the ePass issues, anything any of us say is lip service, but with over 1,400 partners and well over 1.2 cardholders worldwide, our service has continued interrupted for the most past - almost all partners have gotten their funds through and all but a couple have already been returned from those that originally bounced (from wherever they bounced from).

                                                                                If anyone hasn't yet (excluding @pompousjohn who I am already in touch with), please contact me at [email protected].

                                                                                I would like to reiterate: ALL payments have gone through to users, not one has been missing or taken. Not in the adult sector and not in the mainstream sector. Once the payment from the sponsors goes through, it is immediately sent to the users.

                                                                                Whoa!! Show us your tits!

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                                                                                • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                                                  • Sep 2010
                                                                                  • 337

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Anal Hobbit
                                                                                  Whoa!! Show us your tits!
                                                                                  I would, but you will never be pleased by another woman again. It's just not fair.
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                                                                                  • BareBacked
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                                                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                                                    • 3685

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                                                    Luckily we agree on things. But then again, I"m not paid to talk in our relationship. I just do it for fun.
                                                                                    Luckily we agree on things

                                                                                    Give it time you have only been married a few months.

                                                                                    I"m not paid to talk in our relationship

                                                                                    So you make more than your husband?


                                                                                    LOL
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                                                                                    • moeloubani
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                                                                                      • Dec 2007
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Maybe it has something to do with the banks not wanting to be involved with terrorism? Everyone knows that Payoneer cards have been given out to terrorists in the past that used them while they committed terrorist attacks. Knowingly? Maybe...when your CEO at the time was an ex-terrorist from the same group that committed the terrorist attack it seems to me like Payoneer knew exactly that they were assisting and aiding terrorists in their scheme to commit international terrorism.

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                                                                                      • Talia_Payoneer
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                                                                                        • Sep 2010
                                                                                        • 337

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by BareBacked
                                                                                        Luckily we agree on things

                                                                                        Give it time you have only been married a few months.

                                                                                        I"m not paid to talk in our relationship

                                                                                        So you make more than your husband?


                                                                                        LOL
                                                                                        We knew each other for years before we started going out. As he says, he knew what he was getting into

                                                                                        And we pretty much make the same, but I don't think he'd care if I made more.
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                                                                                        • BareBacked
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                                                                                          • Feb 2007
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                                                          We knew each other for years before we started going out. As he says, he knew what he was getting into

                                                                                          And we pretty much make the same, but I don't think he'd care if I made more.
                                                                                          I am just joking around.
                                                                                          Have a good day. I am done

                                                                                          You can get the last word now..

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                                                                                          • Eyeball
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by PayoneerTeam
                                                                                            We aren't an adult service. Adult isn't even the majority of our clients, just part of them. But everyone needs to do what feels right to them. I'm not here to try to convince anyone to do something they don't want to do.
                                                                                            Unlike your 'wannabe competitor'.

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                                                                                            • primazo
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                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                              • 17

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I got this from Scoregroup yesterday: Payoneer payment is delayed. We sent the wire to them and their bank returned the wire saying that it was "internal Risk management".
                                                                                              There is are technical problem in accepting wires through Commerzbank.
                                                                                              The new wiring information is to a payment processor and not a bank."

                                                                                              So, is the new route a bank or not?

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                                                                                              • suesheboy
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Bump for the night owls
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                                                                                                • bDok
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by halfpint
                                                                                                  After epass I will never use another adult online payment system ...just saying
                                                                                                  ditto that. I understand people that I guess are in other countries. However, I'm in the US so I'm just fine with checks.
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                                                                                                  • seXXXhub
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    i got my payoneer payment yesterday with no delay .. all works fine here

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