Ereditato declined to speculate on what it might mean if other physicists, who will be officially informed of the discovery at a meeting in CERN on Friday, found that OPERA's measurements were correct.
"I just don't want to think of the implications," he said. "We are scientists and work with what we know."
Much science-fiction literature is based on the idea that, if the light-speed barrier can be overcome, time travel might theoretically become possible.
Why don't they want to think of the implications? This should be an extremely exciting discovery leading to many thoughts, theories, and speculations.
So, for the physics majors on GFY, a couple questions. Why does something that can travel faster than the speed of light mean that time travel may be possible? What will this do to the study of physics?
Why don't they want to think of the implications? This should be an extremely exciting discovery leading to many thoughts, theories, and speculations.
So, for the physics majors on GFY, a couple questions. Why does something that can travel faster than the speed of light mean that time travel may be possible? What will this do to the study of physics?
Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the international group of researchers, said that measurements taken over three years showed neutrinos pumped from CERN near Geneva to Gran Sasso in Italy had arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.
I wonder then if the Nutrino arrived BEFORE it left Geneva?
Why don't they want to think of the implications? This should be an extremely exciting discovery leading to many thoughts, theories, and speculations.
So, for the physics majors on GFY, a couple questions. Why does something that can travel faster than the speed of light mean that time travel may be possible? What will this do to the study of physics?
i'm a novice when it comes to the subject but i'll take a shot at it... (someone correct me if i'm way off please!)
We see things through light transfer, reflection etc with our eyes. The stars we see are so far away that we are looking at them from the past. If we can travel faster than light we can can surpass what we can see and essentially time travel.
I'm pretty sure this doesn't open the doors for things like going BACK in time.. I really don't think that is even possible.. but being able to view things before we can see them would be quite impressive.
Cool stuff.. And one more example of how people putting faith in "science" as being written in stone are foolish.. Man knows shit about how things really work and every year some new study comes out that proves some "fact" wrong.
Why don't they want to think of the implications? This should be an extremely exciting discovery leading to many thoughts, theories, and speculations.
So, for the physics majors on GFY, a couple questions. Why does something that can travel faster than the speed of light mean that time travel may be possible? What will this do to the study of physics?
first off there is no 'time'. time is the same a 'mile' in that is is not a natural occurrence only a device which men use to measure certain aspects of reality. going back in time using faster than light speeds would meant this in practice: seeing a Galaxy explode, because as you move closer you will be seeing the event earlier in time. it's not about meeting your mom in HS
first off there is no 'time'. time is the same a 'mile' in that is is not a natural occurrence only a device which men use to measure certain aspects of reality. going back in time using faster than light speeds would meant this in practice: seeing a Galaxy explode, because as you move closer you will be seeing the event earlier in time. it's not about meeting your mom in HS
You read my ice-cream thread
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
i'm a novice when it comes to the subject but i'll take a shot at it... (someone correct me if i'm way off please!)
We see things through light transfer, reflection etc with our eyes. The stars we see are so far away that we are looking at them from the past. If we can travel faster than light we can can surpass what we can see and essentially time travel.
I'm pretty sure this doesn't open the doors for things like going BACK in time.. I really don't think that is even possible.. but being able to view things before we can see them would be quite impressive.
novice here as well but that's the way i understand it too. but it would be a way to "go back"
if a point in space is say, 20 light years away from you, and you could can send some apparatus to that point in 10 years, it'd start seeing the light from 10 years ago and up
being able to view things before we can see them would be quite impressive.
Originally posted by Squirtit
You have already done this, we all have.
Originally posted by PR_Glen
explain? Even if you view something through a high powered telescope you are still looking at how it was long in the past.
Human beings are quite impressive in some ways. We view things in our minds that don't exist, and we create them, sometimes on a massive scale (i.e. computers, fiber optics technology, the walls in your room). We view things before we can physically see them. We create from nothing something never before seen and only imagined.
We also cheat light constantly. My night vision site shows what can't be seen with the naked eye in the dark, so do xrays and ultrasounds. So many real world examples of this, including what CERN did today.
However if you're attempting to limit the discussion to being able to sense something visually, before you can sense it visually, then that's a straw mans discussion and I'm out on that one.
Either this turn physics on it's head, or they'll realize the receiving station 160 km away was really just 159.99999 km away.
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$1 says Bachman or Pat Robertson try to make the argument that 'If einstein can be wrong so can Darwin' as part of a renewed push for 'intelligent design.'
It could be a monumental discovery but people will assign it their own agenda even faster than a neutrino can move.
first off there is no 'time'. time is the same a 'mile' in that is is not a natural occurrence only a device which men use to measure certain aspects of reality. going back in time using faster than light speeds would meant this in practice: seeing a Galaxy explode, because as you move closer you will be seeing the event earlier in time. it's not about meeting your mom in HS
Is this like when my friend gets in a wreck and txt's/calls me about it? Phones = first time travel device!
the faster you travel towards the speed of light the slower time passes relative to a stationary object. it is a way of future time travel, not of going to the past.
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