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Old 01-30-2003, 03:23 PM   #1
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I need a U.S. lawyer to sue iBill

I need someone who will work on a %. iBill are holding all my funds and refusing to pay me. They were even prepared to keep processing rebills, but not pass the funds on!!

Has anyone got any recommendations?
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:24 PM   #2
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:29 PM   #3
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Whoever you get, do it soon. I have a feeling it will start a chain reaction, and it seems like they don't have enough money to go around.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:30 PM   #4
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I am in the same boat. My lawyer however tells me to send letters to IBill and the parent company first threatening with SEC and every instutution you can come up with.

I however think I found a way to get very even with IBill. I will disclose that way once I have done it and I can comment on the success.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:32 PM   #5
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I spoke recently to a sales rep at Ibill, who must remain nameless, he was busy building websites.

Does he know something we do not??
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:35 PM   #6
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I spoke recently to a sales rep at Ibill, who must remain nameless, he was busy building websites.

Does he know something we do not??
Holy fuck, I'm glad I don't use them. Hope the big "E" isn't in the same boat.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:35 PM   #7
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They will go belly up soon, probably before I get to them.

Ok they are big, but wasn't Enron? Worldcom? ....
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:38 PM   #8
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I deleted hundreds of rebills with IBill today. They told me that they will not release my funds but they still rebilled all my customers. Damn it sucked ass to delete all that cash but <font size=6>FUCK IBILL</font>
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:53 PM   #9
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I deleted hundreds of rebills with IBill today. They told me that they will not release my funds but they still rebilled all my customers. Damn it sucked ass to delete all that cash but <font size=6>FUCK IBILL</font>


You should have left the rebills but pulled them from your website.. that would have been a couple hundred more charge backs for ibill!
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Old 01-30-2003, 04:57 PM   #10
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You should have left the rebills but pulled them from your website.. that would have been a couple hundred more charge backs for ibill!

Chargebacks will fuck up my VISA processing and I will not get them more money to steal from me.
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Old 01-30-2003, 05:00 PM   #11
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rebilling on a webmaster's behalf, then refusing to pay the money to the webmaster, is theft..

If you have proof, contact the authorities local to Ibill and press criminal charges.. or contact the State Attorney's office local to Ibill with proof and have them file the charges..
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Old 01-30-2003, 05:02 PM   #12
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Old 01-30-2003, 05:30 PM   #13
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rebilling on a webmaster's behalf, then refusing to pay the money to the webmaster, is theft..

If you have proof, contact the authorities local to Ibill and press criminal charges.. or contact the State Attorney's office local to Ibill with proof and have them file the charges..

That will be the last step in my plan to get even. I have all the proof necessary already. I have emails instructing IBill to stop rebilling in December. I even have a taped phone call that includes the ibill rep saying so and he even talked to the legal department during the conversation. They did not stop rebilling, they did not terminate our contract, they did not as of yet provide an official reason for their actions.
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Old 01-30-2003, 05:38 PM   #14
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Assign the debt to a collections company or law firm in their home state. That might get their attention.

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Old 01-30-2003, 05:53 PM   #15
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Thanks everyone for your input. I'll be contacting a law firm in iBills home state early next week to commence proceedings. Hopefully it's just a matter of a few threatening letters etc.

andi_germany, I'd be interested to hear more of what you've got planned. Our situations are exactly the same.
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Old 01-30-2003, 06:00 PM   #16
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Does he know something we do not??

Well.. he knows the email addressess of all revsharing webmasters, as well as the email addresses of all Ibill clients & more importantly -- the paysite clients emails probably as far back as 1995.

So to answer your question, yes, I'm afraid he might have a slight bit of an edge.

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Old 01-30-2003, 06:05 PM   #17
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If you need a lawyer try adultinternetlaw.com. Good luck that is really fucked up.

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Old 01-30-2003, 06:29 PM   #18
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Why are they with-holding funds?

Since I used them I never had problems with payments.

They seem to be ok.
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