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Old 01-29-2003, 12:55 AM   #51
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this happened a few blocks from our place in glendale.

very very sad.
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Old 01-29-2003, 01:04 AM   #54
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this is very real
i saw it on the local news

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this happened a few blocks from our place in glendale.

very very sad.
So then it's definitively true.

wow.

Pour some liquor for the homey.
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http://www.shroomery.org/ owns the server they were on /server shroomery.org - i think its a link with efnet servers. cause there is like a key for #ripper and the channel #shroomery is real. ladida wow! freakin me out, brought my high downn downn downn
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he probably got all the prescription meds off his welfare card.
All those wacko meds, and being wacko im sure he would have died one way or another in due time.

If it wernt the drugs, im sure it would have been a bullet in due time.

Fucked up people do fucked up things.

HE was fucked up no doubt, and now he's dead.
He isnt the first and wont be the last.

That IRC chat kinda opens some eyes ehh?
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he probably got all the prescription meds off his welfare card.
All those wacko meds, and being wacko im sure he would have died one way or another in due time.

If it wernt the drugs, im sure it would have been a bullet in due time.

Fucked up people do fucked up things.

HE was fucked up no doubt, and now he's dead.
He isnt the first and wont be the last.

That IRC chat kinda opens some eyes ehh?
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The pills are generic Darvocet.
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The robotussin is for the dextromethorphan
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/dxmguide.htm
From the info I can find one if a 150lb person drank 1 8 oz bottle it would put them in 'third plateau'....

Psychotomimetic (psychosis like) effects of dextromethorphan take over. Hallucinations are still there, but it is likely the altered state of consciousness will be the dominating factor of the experience. It is very east to become extremely delusional and disoriented.

I won't even list what happens with a second bottle. It's all at the url I listed above.

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ya know I saw this last night and it was sad but when I saw his baby pic's and him growing up I fucking cried. This is like way to fucked up and sad and prey to the porn gods that my kids don't have any issues like this when they grow up. I know I might not be the best dad and I know what me and my ex did fucking whoreing ourselfs out 2 years ago may fuck them up when they find out. I just hope I do good enough that they will respect and love and trust me enough to listen to me about drugs

My heart goes out to this guys fam and friends

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The pills are generic Darvocet.
kinda of looks like davects *shrugs* could be wrong
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Some of you have no compassion. He was a brilliant 21 year old kid. At the time he started taking everything, he was already drinking and on benzos. Look at the laudnry list. Restoril, inderall, klonopin, 3 benzos right there. Anyone who has ever taken too many and/or drank with them can attest to the incredible lack of judgement that results.

He had a drug problem. He had taken "heroic" doses in the past. Shit, he even msged me that night to even "check out what" he "has." I only wish I had been awake. I've been talking to him online for a long time, and this is very very real. His parents found out about this log in a bad way, and its not cool.

Point is, he was a good kid, bright, but had problems and was lacking in the common sense dept. He did NOT intend to commit suicide.

It is a great loss for all.
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Some of you have no compassion. He was a brilliant 21 year old kid. At the time he started taking everything, he was already drinking and on benzos. Look at the laudnry list. Restoril, inderall, klonopin, 3 benzos right there. Anyone who has ever taken too many and/or drank with them can attest to the incredible lack of judgement that results.

He had a drug problem. He had taken "heroic" doses in the past. Shit, he even msged me that night to even "check out what" he "has." I only wish I had been awake. I've been talking to him online for a long time, and this is very very real. His parents found out about this log in a bad way, and its not cool.

Point is, he was a good kid, bright, but had problems and was "lacking in the common sense dept. He did NOT intend to commit suicide.

It is a great loss for all.

"Brilliant" isn't the word I would have chose but that's just me. Of course this is sad but let's call a spade a spade he was an attention starved moron.

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"Brilliant" isn't the word I would have chose but that's just me. Of course this is sad but let's call a spade a spade he was an attention starved moron.

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You didn't know him besides some random irc log that you are reading after the fact. Pass whatever judgement you like, but you have no idea who he was.
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It said he overdosed on 380mg of methadone.

I take 120mg of methadone daily for health reasons. NOT illegally or to get high and I can say that 380mg would fucking kill anyone. 120mg blacks me out sometimes and im 6'5" 240lbs. This kid fried his nervous system.
Last I checked, they only give methadone to junkies trying to get clean. I had one living with me for a few months this past summer, and I've been around him in the past. Only problem with that system is that the clinics don't try and ween the people off of the shit. They string them out and get paid. Legal drug sales. This cat finally kicked it, but took 4 years.

What other reasons would you be on methadone?
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You get much nastier, longer lasting withdrawals, not to mention a shittier high from methadone, from what I hear.
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In that case I'll just stick with the junk...
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"Brilliant" isn't the word I would have chose but that's just me. Of course this is sad but let's call a spade a spade he was an attention starved moron.

RIP
It's easy for you to make judgements on this 21 year old kid with a drug problem. All you know about 'ripper' is what you have heard and read from his log, which is still ramblings from a extremely high individual. What you don't know is why this kid turned to heavy drug abuse, why he has such a low regard for the value of his life. He could have been dealing with all sorts of problems, personal or family, finding drugs to suppress them, his way of escaping from painful realities. You shouldn't judge.... what happened was a complete tragedy. Show some respect.

I had a friend, he was 19, very popular. So many friends, lots of girls, he had such a great personality people were drawn to him. He was always 'attention starved' showing his presence in any room at any time. Well what most people didnt know was the unbeliable things he has been through in his life... well he developed a drug problem, he always needed to get high. A few months ago he couldnt deal with all of that pain. After an arguement with his brother, he shot himelf in the head as that was his only family member he had who cared about him. Im still shocked and upset.

What im trying to say is you might not give a shit, but there are family and friends who care about these people, maybe in a manner that you wont ever discover. They lost a son, a brother and a friend.
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It's easy for you to make judgements on this 21 year old kid with a drug problem. All you know about 'ripper' is what you have heard and read from his log, which is still ramblings from a extremely high individual. What you don't know is why this kid turned to heavy drug abuse, why he has such a low regard for the value of his life. He could have been dealing with all sorts of problems, personal or family, finding drugs to suppress them, his way of escaping from painful realities. You shouldn't judge.... what happened was a complete tragedy. Show some respect.

I had a friend, he was 19, very popular. So many friends, lots of girls, he had such a great personality people were drawn to him. He was always 'attention starved' showing his presence in any room at any time. Well what most people didnt know was the unbeliable things he has been through in his life... well he developed a drug problem, he always needed to get high. A few months ago he couldnt deal with all of that pain. After an arguement with his brother, he shot himelf in the head as that was his only family member he had who cared about him. Im still shocked and upset.

What im trying to say is you might not give a shit, but there are family and friends who care about these people, maybe in a manner that you wont ever discover. They lost a son, a brother and a friend.
Thank you for elaborating on my thoughts beautifully. His family did not initially know about this log. It was given to his brother a few days after. How horrible do you think it would be for his family to discover their son is part of internet lore that many believe(d) was/is a hoax? Say they saw and heard it read on the news one night, or part of a news special?
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Respect is earned. Your defense of this behavior and calling this kid brilliant is the problem with this world. Should we feel sorry about this yes? It's tragic. Is it unfortunate for his family? Of course. No mother, father brother should have to go through this.

I completely understand your defense of your "friend" but don't expect sympathy from me, I know good people who have big problems in this world. If you were his friends maybe you should look in the mirror...
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I suppose its possible he use to hang on undernet. He was very good with computer systems and networks.

Wow Tanker, I didn't know you were right there. It wasn't a fun surprise to come back to vegas and have someone i considered an e-friend die.

As a tangent, tanker, do you have icq? I can't wait to get my DVD so i can watch myself puke and show all my friends. Any idea how long they take?
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Kid had a sick fascination with drugs...this was his homepage URL
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His parents must have been using to, if they weren't able to see what was going on.
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Respect is earned. Your defense of this behavior and calling this kid brilliant is the problem with this world. Should we feel sorry about this yes? It's tragic. Is it unfortunate for his family? Of course. No mother, father brother should have to go through this.

I completely understand your defense of your "friend" but don't expect sympathy from me, I know good people who have big problems in this world. If you were his friends maybe you should look in the mirror...
I suppose you have no faults, and you never let them get the best of you. I also suppose, by your last statement, that none of your friends have any problems. He had faults and he had a problem. He wasn't brilliant in what he did, in fact that should be loathed. He was brilliant in other areas of his life.
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His parents must have been using to, if they weren't able to see what was going on.
Parents are blind or ignorant or just plain don't see warning signs all the time. They do things that they think help, it doesn't always. They do their best.
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Uno, you obviously didn't read my last post. It was pretty clear I do have friends and family with many problems. And as a friend I try and help where I can.

I do have many faults, I'll admit it. And one of them is getting sucked into stupid threads.

This is my last response here... I'll let you mourn.
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That is so sad. I am rather disturbed after reading that.
Yea no kidding, People show just how much they dont give a shit about others. I had a bad drug problem with pain killers and booze I took well over the ammount that I was allowed and thank the porn gods that im still here and able to rasie my two kids. I use to be an irc whore back in the day when dal.net just started and hung around for 3 years made ton's of friends friends who I could say I loved and to this day are a part of my life,

As for parents not knowing, STFU my mother was my worse night mare growing up. IF I shit wrong she was on my ass if I did something wrong in school she would come in and sit in class all day just to watch me so I dont fuck up again. My mother was great now looking back but I tell you what SHE Didnt have NO idea i was hooked on drugs from 15 to 16 years old till my friends ratted on me and then she threw my ass in a rehab then when I got out she thought things were going to be good and shit and I went back to them till i was 18 when AT 18 she threw my ass in rehab again.. I got out cleaned myself up joined the FireDept.

So its not the parents fault you can be the best damn parent if a kid wants to do something they are not allowed to do THEYWILL find a way to do it.

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Old 01-29-2003, 09:17 AM   #90
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Pretty sad story. Bet the guys that were egging him on feel pretty fucked up at this stage.
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Old 01-29-2003, 09:42 AM   #91
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He did NOT intend to commit suicide.

Why the denial??
Its like someone playing Russian Roulette and saying the guy is not suicidal... He's just trying to impress his friends...!

Then the guy shot himself... And his friends all say... Hey its not suicide...He Never wanted to die...!!

So we now have a suicide or the guy is just the dumbest kid in history..... Choose!
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Old 01-29-2003, 09:45 AM   #92
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Very sad ..

takes me back , when I was younger, me and a few of my friends were WAY into drugs and it was always who could fuck themselves up more...we were basically human garbage cans...

14 hits of acid 5 morphine and 5 grams of mushrooms etc etc ...



I decided to clean up just before all these same friends started using heroin .
the only drug i never tried and glad i didn't

its only in the last few years that it has really dawned on me that the decisions you make as a kid can fuck you up bigtime .. I still have major stomach problems, bad memory , severe migraines , speech problems and flashbacks and we're talking 5 years later...

I still see these guys on the streets, the ones that are alive.
and I am SOOO fucking glad I got out when I did ...

they are pushing crack in front of fucking mcdonalds downtown and living their life penny to penny and they look half dead .

not to nice to see.

saddest part is its like I am just waiting to hear that they are dead like the rest. its a matter of time .
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Old 01-29-2003, 09:57 AM   #93
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Some of you have no compassion. He was a brilliant 21 year old kid. At the time he started taking everything, he was already drinking and on benzos. Look at the laudnry list. Restoril, inderall, klonopin, 3 benzos right there. Anyone who has ever taken too many and/or drank with them can attest to the incredible lack of judgement that results.

He had a drug problem. He had taken "heroic" doses in the past. Shit, he even msged me that night to even "check out what" he "has." I only wish I had been awake. I've been talking to him online for a long time, and this is very very real. His parents found out about this log in a bad way, and its not cool.

Point is, he was a good kid, bright, but had problems and was lacking in the common sense dept. He did NOT intend to commit suicide.

It is a great loss for all.
yea so brilliant he OD'ed!
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Old 01-29-2003, 10:03 AM   #94
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"Brilliant" isn't the word I would have chose but that's just me. Of course this is sad but let's call a spade a spade he was an attention starved moron.

RIP
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Old 01-29-2003, 10:08 AM   #95
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I think the generation of kids coming out of high school now are attention whores. I think we as parents need to take the blame for allowing the values of the kids to be ruined. We want 1/4 million + homes, SUV's, Lexus' and so on. They have to have the designer clothes or they are harrased.

I remember watching on A&E about the Woodstock concerts and the path they have taken and changed. They interviewed some kids from the last Woodstock and they just had this apethetic attitude, and the violence was way more extreme as was the music.

Doesn't take a rocket science methods to see where all this is leading.
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This is a prime example of what happens to your children when you are not involved in their life.

He probably just wanted attention.

God bless his soul & his poor Mother.
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Last I checked, they only give methadone to junkies trying to get clean. I had one living with me for a few months this past summer, and I've been around him in the past. Only problem with that system is that the clinics don't try and ween the people off of the shit. They string them out and get paid. Legal drug sales. This cat finally kicked it, but took 4 years.

What other reasons would you be on methadone?
Cancer patients and others in extreme pain are given methadone.
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Cancer patients and others in extreme pain are given methadone.
wrong. they are given morphine.
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It said he overdosed on 380mg of methadone.

I take 120mg of methadone daily for health reasons. NOT illegally or to get high and I can say that 380mg would fucking kill anyone. 120mg blacks me out sometimes and im 6'5" 240lbs. This kid fried his nervous system.
what would that quantity do to your body?
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what would that quantity do to your body?


kill it ?
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