THIEF: xxxpaysitedesign aka Jeff - GoFuckYourself.com

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 10:46 AM

Since i didn't have any response to my email i have no choice but to make it public.

My gallery: http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/index.htm

His copy: http://www.innocentcuties.com/dana/

At least he added meta and alt tags, great job there

Beware if you use/used/plan to use his design services, you might be paying for a ripped design...

xxxinnovations · 01-28-2003, 10:48 AM

someone just posted this gallery saying it was theirs and that they might as well give it away for free

playa · 01-28-2003, 10:49 AM

dana is a hottie

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 10:49 AM

yes, me.

If you want to use that design, i'm giving it away, read:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=103037

DarkJedi · 01-28-2003, 10:52 AM

xxxpaysitedesign.com = HUNGRYMAN ??

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
xxxpaysitedesign.com = HUNGRYMAN ??

I'm not sure, hungryman's domain name is very similar i think. or maybe it's him. anybody knows?

Candyman69 · 01-28-2003, 11:01 AM

no its not hungryman

and i'm sure Jeff from wow18 , woudlnt do something like that or with that intent... as far as i know he has some designing skills himself as well...

I'm sure he'll explain shortly

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman69
no its not hungryman

and i'm sure Jeff from wow18 , woudlnt do something like that or with that intent... as far as i know he has some designing skills himself as well...

I'm sure he'll explain shortly

with what intent?!?

it's listed at his tgp: http://www.sweetcollegegirls.com / Hall of fame / bottom right thumb.

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 12:04 PM

oh, and of course the thumb used there of dana with adjusted brightness/contrast and color levels is mine too, you can use that too for thumb preview tgps.

Funny thing is that i would have given him permission to use it if he only asked for it.

Mutt · 01-28-2003, 12:24 PM

stealing a whole gallery layout is low, 'borrowing' a thumb isn't worth getting pissed about.

Theo · 01-28-2003, 12:27 PM

can someone kill my isp? none of the links load here. It's miracle i can access the board

AM Jeff · 01-28-2003, 12:32 PM

I tell ya what I like.
Bree from net Pond showed me this one.
http://www.neterotica.com/soth/index2.html

That is sweet looking.

lagwagon · 01-28-2003, 12:39 PM

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 12:41 PM

I wanted to have you do a gallery for me, I even emailed you, I wanted to test this gallery out to see if it was worth my time to have you do one.

Give me your ID, I'll replace it with mine and keep it hosted where it is. Email me back, I'd still like to have you do a template.

Jeff

Darren · 01-28-2003, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXPaysiteDesign
I wanted to have you do a gallery for me, I even emailed you, I wanted to test this gallery out to see if it was worth my time to have you do one.

Give me your ID, I'll replace it with mine and keep it hosted where it is. Email me back, I'd still like to have you do a template.

Jeff

lol, sorry Hustler for copying ur member section into mine, i wanted to test if my surfers liked it. Much love daz

SquarePants · 01-28-2003, 01:22 PM

Quote:

I wanted to have you do a gallery for me, I even emailed you, I wanted to test this gallery out to see if it was worth my time to have you do one.

Is this for real?

Sly_RJ · 01-28-2003, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXPaysiteDesign
I wanted to have you do a gallery for me, I even emailed you, I wanted to test this gallery out to see if it was worth my time to have you do one.

Give me your ID, I'll replace it with mine and keep it hosted where it is. Email me back, I'd still like to have you do a template.

Jeff

Uhh... dude?

goBigtime · 01-28-2003, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Uhh... dude?

I guess he thought it was the safest thing to say

LiveDose · 01-28-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AM Jeff
I tell ya what I like.
Bree from net Pond showed me this one.
http://www.neterotica.com/soth/index2.html

That is sweet looking.

Wow! That is really really nice...

FuqALot · 01-28-2003, 01:39 PM

Wow. Sweet stuff, that flash. I like that atmospheric music hehe.

And that testing gallery excuse, very lame indeed.

playa · 01-28-2003, 01:41 PM

interesting concept,, i like it

any other designers willing to use this type of deal?

sort of like the try before you buy concept

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 01:51 PM

I did, and still do, have every intention of buying a gallery template or making some kind of deal with him.

Eric · 01-28-2003, 01:53 PM

Jeff is a good guy. I highly doubt any of this was done with any kind of malice thought or in any way to cheat Roberto.

p\mpd0g · 01-28-2003, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
Jeff is a good guy. I highly doubt any of this was done with any kind of malice thought or in any way to cheat Roberto.

unban pimpdog!

pr0 · 01-28-2003, 02:00 PM

jeff's party goat approved

Sly_RJ · 01-28-2003, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXPaysiteDesign
I did, and still do, have every intention of buying a gallery template or making some kind of deal with him.

Dude, come on.

That's a ridiculous reason to rip off someone's gallery. You're a designer, you know how important your work is. How could you do that?

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 02:03 PM

What jeff says is true, kinda.

He asked me to do galleries for wow18,

I replied back saying yes, and asking for more info, content, etc.

Then he didn't get back to me.

The next day i check your site and see my gallery posted on your TGP, great i think. just out of curiosity i click on it and see it's hosted on another domain, ok good, he might want to save me some bandwidth maybe, i check the gallery closer and see it has alt tags, oh great, he even added alt tags and meta tags!, great.

Then wtf? he changed the ref code!

If you wanted to know how it did, you could have posted mine and i would even give you access to my stats to see 'how it does'.
Hell as i said earlier i would have just gave it to you if you asked for it before using it. a 2 lines email.

Definetely not the right way to do business in my book.

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Dude, come on.

That's a ridiculous reason to rip off someone's gallery. You're a designer, you know how important your work is. How could you do that?

I dunno, I guess I wasn't being logical..

Roberto, it appears that I owe you an apology, I'm sorry. I would still like to talk to you about having a gallery design done, I'd do it myself but there aren't enough hours in the day to do everything I want to do.. again, sorry Roberto, please contact me either way so we can have a little chat.

Jeff

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
What jeff says is true, kinda.

He asked me to do galleries for wow18,

I replied back saying yes, and asking for more info, content, etc.

Then he didn't get back to me.

The next day i check your site and see my gallery posted on your TGP, great i think. just out of curiosity i click on it and see it's hosted on another domain, ok good, he might want to save me some bandwidth maybe, i check the gallery closer and see it has alt tags, oh great, he even added alt tags and meta tags!, great.

Then wtf? he changed the ref code!

If you wanted to know how it did, you could have posted mine and i would even give you access to my stats to see 'how it does'.
Hell as i said earlier i would have just gave it to you if you asked for it before using it. a 2 lines email.

Definetely not the right way to do business in my book.

Hey, I never recieved your reply, if you could email me at [email protected] I'd appreciate it. If you have ICQ hit me on there please. Thanks!

DrewKole · 01-28-2003, 02:08 PM

Was it only his site that it wast posted on?

If so, It's not as bad as if he had stolen it, and then submitted it all over the place, it was only being done in 1 place.

But... He wasnt offering cash for the design? then... =/

washiez · 01-28-2003, 02:08 PM

How can anyone DEFEND this guy? He stole the gallery. Regarldess of whether he wants the guy to do a template for him or not.. you don't "borrow" somebodys designs to see if itll make you money.. Atleast you could have asked permission?

Heh you should buy 5 templates from him and give him a nice tip to make up for it. ;)

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrewKole
Was it only his site that it wast posted on?

If so, It's not as bad as if he had stolen it, and then submitted it all over the place, it was only being done in 1 place.

But... He wasnt offering cash for the design? then... =/

Drew - I always offer people a higher payout as its a better way to make long term cash, I'm not saying thats all I would offer him

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by washiez
How can anyone DEFEND this guy? He stole the gallery. Regarldess of whether he wants the guy to do a template for him or not.. you don't "borrow" somebodys designs to see if itll make you money.. Atleast you could have asked permission?

Heh you should buy 5 templates from him and give him a nice tip to make up for it. ;)

I agree, I fucked up. I'm hoping he will contact me or give me a way to contact him so I can not only get some templates from him but give him the money that was made from the gallery.

washiez · 01-28-2003, 02:13 PM

Well sounds like this can all be worked out then. Atleast some people here can finally OWN up to their mistakes. :P

Btw Roberto, how much do you charge per gallery template? I may be needing a few made myself ;)

Fletch XXX · 01-28-2003, 02:17 PM

How is stealing a gallery, replacing codes, and adding meta and alt tags a 'mistake?'

Its only AFTER a gallery thief gets busted they offer money, doesnt it seem that way?

Sucks.

SquarePants · 01-28-2003, 02:18 PM

Roberto

You handled this whole deal very business like and even the reply back was above board. Hat's Off to you.

Edit: Added Statment

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 02:19 PM

First:

http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/screen2.gif

Then:

http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/mail2.gif

both went out to: [email protected]

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
First:

http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/screen2.gif

Then:

http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/mail2.gif

both went out to: [email protected]

I'm not trying to say you didn't send them, I just didn't get them.

jeffs · 01-28-2003, 02:22 PM

jeff i like your name and i applaud the way you owned up to your mistake

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 02:26 PM

Sorry hotlink protection:

http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/screenshots.html

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 02:34 PM

Jeff, thanks for showing up and tell your side of the story, i appreciate it.

You might understand now that i can't feel safe working with/for you since i don't know if it's going to happen again with 20 templates.

This template 'test' gave my a very bad first impression.

Who knows, maybe you acted in good faith, but there's no way for me to know what really happened.

No hard feelings, just a bit annoyed.

XXXPaysiteDesign · 01-28-2003, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
Jeff, thanks for showing up and tell your side of the story, i appreciate it.

You might understand now that i can't feel safe working with/for you since i don't know if it's going to happen again with 20 templates.

This template 'test' gave my a very bad first impression.

Who knows, maybe you acted in good faith, but there's no way for me to know what really happened.

No hard feelings, just a bit annoyed.

Sorry to hear that Roberto, but I can understand. Thinking back on the moment I don't know why I thought it would be okay to do that, hopefully we can do business in the future.

Shoot me an email with a way to send you the cash that was made off the gallery.

Brad Mitchell · 01-28-2003, 02:41 PM

Jeff goofed up but I think it's good that he has owned up to the error. I will say that in the year (or more, less?) that I've known Jeff he's always been a really nice guy. Best of luck to everyone involved.

Brad

flashfreak · 01-28-2003, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AM Jeff
I tell ya what I like.
Bree from net Pond showed me this one.
http://www.neterotica.com/soth/index2.html

That is sweet looking.

nice site, I don't like the colour scheme... and that beep is 100% taken from 2advanced.

hahmike · 01-28-2003, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

lol, sorry Hustler for copying ur member section into mine, i wanted to test if my surfers liked it. Much love daz

TDF · 01-28-2003, 03:13 PM

Jeff's a good guy and he made an honest mistake. His program is far and above a very honest one and sometimes even the cutest kids make mistakes...Dawgy wanna rape him? :P

Roberto · 01-28-2003, 04:31 PM

Apology accepted, we all make mistakes.

Accepting the mistake is an honest gesture, so maybe you're not that a bad guy after all.

Jamie · 01-28-2003, 06:06 PM

Jeff's a great guy, he graduated from my high school so how bad could he be?

GTS Mark · 01-28-2003, 06:08 PM

Jeff is the fucking man...

I'd submit galleries for him anyday!

DH

mastamindz · 01-28-2003, 06:50 PM

OMG that girl is hot. Where is my credit card.

01-28-2003, 10:46 AM	#1
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	THIEF: xxxpaysitedesign aka Jeff Since i didn't have any response to my email i have no choice but to make it public. My gallery: http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/index.htm His copy: http://www.innocentcuties.com/dana/ At least he added meta and alt tags, great job there Beware if you use/used/plan to use his design services, you might be paying for a ripped design... __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 10:48 AM	#2
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01-28-2003, 10:49 AM	#4
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	yes, me. If you want to use that design, i'm giving it away, read: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=103037 __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 11:01 AM	#7
Candyman69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 764	no its not hungryman and i'm sure Jeff from wow18 , woudlnt do something like that or with that intent... as far as i know he has some designing skills himself as well... I'm sure he'll explain shortly __________________ domain buyer

01-28-2003, 12:04 PM	#9
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	oh, and of course the thumb used there of dana with adjusted brightness/contrast and color levels is mine too, you can use that too for thumb preview tgps. Funny thing is that i would have given him permission to use it if he only asked for it. __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 10:49 AM	#3
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	dana is a hottie

01-28-2003, 10:52 AM	#5
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	xxxpaysitedesign.com = HUNGRYMAN ??

01-28-2003, 12:24 PM	#10
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	stealing a whole gallery layout is low, 'borrowing' a thumb isn't worth getting pissed about. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-28-2003, 12:27 PM	#11
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	can someone kill my isp? none of the links load here. It's miracle i can access the board

01-28-2003, 12:32 PM	#12
AM Jeff Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The House Of Rage Posts: 1,320	I tell ya what I like. Bree from net Pond showed me this one. http://www.neterotica.com/soth/index2.html That is sweet looking.

01-28-2003, 12:39 PM	#13
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01-28-2003, 12:41 PM	#14
XXXPaysiteDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,201	I wanted to have you do a gallery for me, I even emailed you, I wanted to test this gallery out to see if it was worth my time to have you do one. Give me your ID, I'll replace it with mine and keep it hosted where it is. Email me back, I'd still like to have you do a template. Jeff __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by XXXPaysiteDesign; 01-28-2003 at 12:42 PM..

01-28-2003, 01:39 PM	#20
FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	Wow. Sweet stuff, that flash. I like that atmospheric music hehe. And that testing gallery excuse, very lame indeed.

01-28-2003, 01:41 PM	#21
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	interesting concept,, i like it any other designers willing to use this type of deal? sort of like the try before you buy concept

01-28-2003, 01:51 PM	#22
XXXPaysiteDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,201	I did, and still do, have every intention of buying a gallery template or making some kind of deal with him. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

01-28-2003, 01:53 PM	#23
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	Jeff is a good guy. I highly doubt any of this was done with any kind of malice thought or in any way to cheat Roberto. __________________ No One

01-28-2003, 02:00 PM	#25
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	jeff's party goat approved __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

01-28-2003, 02:03 PM	#27
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	What jeff says is true, kinda. He asked me to do galleries for wow18, I replied back saying yes, and asking for more info, content, etc. Then he didn't get back to me. The next day i check your site and see my gallery posted on your TGP, great i think. just out of curiosity i click on it and see it's hosted on another domain, ok good, he might want to save me some bandwidth maybe, i check the gallery closer and see it has alt tags, oh great, he even added alt tags and meta tags!, great. Then wtf? he changed the ref code! If you wanted to know how it did, you could have posted mine and i would even give you access to my stats to see 'how it does'. Hell as i said earlier i would have just gave it to you if you asked for it before using it. a 2 lines email. Definetely not the right way to do business in my book. __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 02:08 PM	#30
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Was it only his site that it wast posted on? If so, It's not as bad as if he had stolen it, and then submitted it all over the place, it was only being done in 1 place. But... He wasnt offering cash for the design? then... =/

01-28-2003, 02:08 PM	#31
washiez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,118	How can anyone DEFEND this guy? He stole the gallery. Regarldess of whether he wants the guy to do a template for him or not.. you don't "borrow" somebodys designs to see if itll make you money.. Atleast you could have asked permission? Heh you should buy 5 templates from him and give him a nice tip to make up for it. ;) __________________ every click counts...

01-28-2003, 02:13 PM	#34
washiez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,118	Well sounds like this can all be worked out then. Atleast some people here can finally OWN up to their mistakes. :P Btw Roberto, how much do you charge per gallery template? I may be needing a few made myself ;) __________________ every click counts...

01-28-2003, 02:17 PM	#35
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	How is stealing a gallery, replacing codes, and adding meta and alt tags a 'mistake?' Its only AFTER a gallery thief gets busted they offer money, doesnt it seem that way? Sucks.

01-28-2003, 02:18 PM	#36
SquarePants Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 408	Roberto You handled this whole deal very business like and even the reply back was above board. Hat's Off to you. Edit: Added Statment Last edited by SquarePants; 01-28-2003 at 02:19 PM..

01-28-2003, 02:19 PM	#37
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	First: http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/screen2.gif Then: http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/mail2.gif both went out to: [email protected] __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 02:22 PM	#39
jeffs Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chair Posts: 135	jeff i like your name and i applaud the way you owned up to your mistake

01-28-2003, 02:26 PM	#40
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	Sorry hotlink protection: http://www.thumbs.com.ar/dana/screenshots.html __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 02:34 PM	#41
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	Jeff, thanks for showing up and tell your side of the story, i appreciate it. You might understand now that i can't feel safe working with/for you since i don't know if it's going to happen again with 20 templates. This template 'test' gave my a very bad first impression. Who knows, maybe you acted in good faith, but there's no way for me to know what really happened. No hard feelings, just a bit annoyed. __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 02:41 PM	#43
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Jeff goofed up but I think it's good that he has owned up to the error. I will say that in the year (or more, less?) that I've known Jeff he's always been a really nice guy. Best of luck to everyone involved. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

01-28-2003, 03:13 PM	#46
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	Jeff's a good guy and he made an honest mistake. His program is far and above a very honest one and sometimes even the cutest kids make mistakes...Dawgy wanna rape him? :P __________________ Sig heil

01-28-2003, 04:31 PM	#47
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	Apology accepted, we all make mistakes. Accepting the mistake is an honest gesture, so maybe you're not that a bad guy after all. __________________ i'm a legend in my spare time.

01-28-2003, 06:06 PM	#48
Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CelebPay.com Posts: 2,517	Jeff's a great guy, he graduated from my high school so how bad could he be? __________________ CelebPay: Promote Celebrity Reviews i/c/q - :1851935

01-28-2003, 06:08 PM	#49
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Jeff is the fucking man... I'd submit galleries for him anyday! DH

01-28-2003, 06:50 PM	#50
mastamindz Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,547	OMG that girl is hot. Where is my credit card. __________________ If you click here, you will make money.