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onwebcam · 07-28-2011, 01:55 AM

"Societies do not usually lose their freedom at a blow. They give it up bit by bit, letting themselves be tied down with an infinity of little knots. As rules and regulations increase, their range of actions is gradually compressed. Their options slowly lessen.

Without noticing the change, they become wards of state. They imagine themselves still free, but in a thousand and one ways, their choices are limited and guided by the authorities.

And always, there are what seem to be sensible reasons for letting their
autonomy be peeled away - ?safety?, ?health?, ?social justice?, ?equal
opportunity.?

It is easy to become accustomed to docility. That is why eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. Not because liberty is easy to shatter, but, because it can be softened and dismantled with the acquiescence of the very men and women from whom it is being stolen."

Jeff Jacoby, columnist,
Boston Post

Redrob · 07-28-2011, 02:02 AM

Everybody thinks the USA is the greatest place on Earth. Well, I'm letting you in on a secret......there are other nice places too.

This place is going down slow. We really need term limits and neighborhood electoral districts. Not this gerrymandered BS to keep lifetime legislators re-elected. They all play to the most extreme elements in their political parties to get re-elected and compromise is impossible as a result.

Just my opinion.

theking · 07-28-2011, 02:09 AM

Around 20 years ago I read an article that claimed there were more than 10 million ordinances and laws on the books in the U.S.A...ranging from City...County...State and Federal. Assuming the article was factual...yes true freedom has certainly been whittled down since the birth of the nation...and of course there have been an untold number of ordinances and laws passed in the past 20 years.

CurrentlySober · 07-28-2011, 02:37 AM

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onwebcam · 07-28-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Around 20 years ago I read an article that claimed there were more than 10 million ordinances and laws on the books in the U.S.A...ranging from City...County...State and Federal. Assuming the article was factual...yes true freedom has certainly been whittled down since the birth of the nation...and of course there have been an untold number of ordinances and laws passed in the past 20 years.

Up until the 1930's there were only civil infractions. IE. you had to cause bodily or financial damage to another man or woman. This changed beginning with the War Powers Act of 1933. Actually it "legally" change in 1938 with the Erie vs Thompkins case which blurred the lines between man and corporation. All Supreme Court decisions prior to this case are for the most part no longer taken into consideration by the courts. Now you the man are considered in some way harming the "STATE" or whatever other corporate entity.

waltgator · 07-28-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Everybody thinks the USA is the greatest place on Earth. Well, I'm letting you in on a secret......there are other nice places too.

This place is going down slow. We really need term limits and neighborhood electoral districts. Not this gerrymandered BS to keep lifetime legislators re-elected. They all play to the most extreme elements in their political parties to get re-elected and compromise is impossible as a result.

Just my opinion.

the USA aint what it used to be, and thats in good ways & bad as well..

CurrentlySober · 07-28-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by waltgator

the USA aint what it used to be, and thats in good ways & bad as well..

Nah, but I'd still swap it for UK life in the blink of an eye!

dyna mo · 07-28-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

"Societies do not usually lose their freedom at a blow. They give it up bit by bit, letting themselves be tied down with an infinity of little knots. As rules and regulations increase, their range of actions is gradually compressed. Their options slowly lessen.

Without noticing the change, they become wards of state. They imagine themselves still free, but in a thousand and one ways, their choices are limited and guided by the authorities.

And always, there are what seem to be sensible reasons for letting their
autonomy be peeled away - “safety”, “health”, “social justice”, “equal
opportunity.”

It is easy to become accustomed to docility. That is why eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. Not because liberty is easy to shatter, but, because it can be softened and dismantled with the acquiescence of the very men and women from whom it is being stolen."

Jeff Jacoby, columnist,
Boston Post

seems that philosophical observations such as these have very little if any value on anything. they reveal no real *revelation* and nothing ever comes out of them.

pretty much everybody knows shit erodes over time, this is just a fancy way of saying societies erode too. duh. and it's been proven over time &time again, pied piping these sorts of revelations does not promote any change whatsoever.

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dyna mo · 07-28-2011, 12:32 PM

moreover, *observations* such as these fail to observe the simple fact that it is human nature that guides societies. if it was in our nature to NOT have societies erode as they always have done, then we would naturally do something about it.

07-28-2011, 01:55 AM	#1
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07-28-2011, 02:09 AM	#3
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07-28-2011, 02:02 AM	#2
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	Everybody thinks the USA is the greatest place on Earth. Well, I'm letting you in on a secret......there are other nice places too. This place is going down slow. We really need term limits and neighborhood electoral districts. Not this gerrymandered BS to keep lifetime legislators re-elected. They all play to the most extreme elements in their political parties to get re-elected and compromise is impossible as a result. Just my opinion.

07-28-2011, 12:32 PM	#9
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 66,225	moreover, observations such as these fail to observe the simple fact that it is human nature that guides societies. if it was in our nature to NOT have societies erode as they always have done, then we would naturally do something about it.