Renew expired domain when you don't know the host...? - GoFuckYourself.com

brentbacardi · 07-19-2011, 12:09 PM

Hey, I have a family member who has a small business and a website for his brick and mortar. He is a web retard so he hired a guy to do is website for him years ago. The guy has disappeared but the sites been up and running for awhile with no issues... I just went to check it out for him to give him an offer on how I could redo it for him much nicer and the site was down. I check his domain registry and it expired on 6-14-11 so its I guess in the process of transfering ownership back... he has no idea where its hosted or where he got domain from so I can't figure out how to get in and try to renew it before its assigned back.

The only thing I can find is yahoo domains is listed as the tech contact on the whois...

Any suggestions how to snatch it up for him so I can get his site live and save him from the possibility someone else may steal his domain?

iamtam · 07-19-2011, 12:12 PM

whois the domain. most of them have a registrar in there now.

brentbacardi · 07-19-2011, 12:15 PM

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... [email protected]
Tech Phone........... +1.4089162124
Tech Fax.............

Nah thats all that comes up other than his own personal info

barcodes · 07-19-2011, 12:32 PM

If he didn't get any warning emails that isn't a good sign. Sometimes, small web businesses or freelance designers will register the domain names under their own name. It becomes troublesome as if you piss them off or leave them, they can hold it hostage. If that company registered the domain name under their name you will have to contact the registrar.

I have come across a number of new clients who decided to stop using their old designer and had their name held hostage, or like yourself, the designer disappeared and they were left not knowing what to do.

They will attempt to contact the owner who they have listed. If they can't reach him, I think there is some documentation proving you are the business owner you might be able provide them to possibly get it back.I am sure it varies by registrar and with the domain pending delete etc., who knows. Network solutions works in this way but I don't know about the other places.

If you fail to get the domain name directly from the registrar, you should look at www.snapnames.com. Buy a domain snap which basically attempts to grab a domain name right as it becomes available.

If the domain name isn't that sought after, you have a good chance of snagging it. If someone else has a snap for that name and their snap beats yours to registering the domain, your s.o.l. Most times you wont even get the money back for the snap. Its like 40 - 60 bucks usually. At that point in time you could fight to get the domain back from the new buyer if you have the biz name trademarked but that can get expensive.

check out http://www.pool.com/viewlist.aspx . Uncheck the tlds that do not apply to you and type in the domain name. With luck the domain will show up with the date it becomes available.

Best of luck with this.

barcodes · 07-19-2011, 12:33 PM

Contact the yahoo tech email and tell them whats going on. He/She will give you the best advice.

brentbacardi · 07-19-2011, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barcodes

Contact the yahoo tech email and tell them whats going on. He/She will give you the best advice.

Thanks for the suggestions... I will try this... It is registered under my family members name so thankfully that part won't be an issue if I could just find who the registrar is.

alias · 07-19-2011, 01:00 PM

Looks like: http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/

chronig · 07-19-2011, 01:04 PM

bloggerz · 07-19-2011, 01:05 PM

I would guess it is registered with yahoo. good luck trying to renew your name from them

CYF · 07-19-2011, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brentbacardi

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... [email protected]
Tech Phone........... +1.4089162124
Tech Fax.............

Nah thats all that comes up other than his own personal info

It looks like it's registered at yahoo domains.

The top part of the whois will show where it's registered for sure. It's the section above the registrant, at the very top of the whois results. It looks like this:

Domain Name: *****
Registrar: MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC. <==== REGISTRAR
Whois Server: whois.moniker.com
Referral URL: http://www.moniker.com
Name Server: ****
Name Server: ****
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 29-jun-2010
Creation Date: 22-nov-1996
Expiration Date: 22-nov-2015

brentbacardi · 07-19-2011, 01:56 PM

Copy and Pasted from whois.com whois search
all the xxxxs are where my family members personal info is

Also its not like a hot web domain that will get scooped up asap but its pretty unique that I could see some people buying domains could grab it or theres also the possibility of any competitors who go check and see the site down, know about websites, see the domain open and buy it.

Whois Search Results

Domain Name : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com

Domain Name.......... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com
Creation Date........ 2006-06-14
Registration Date.... 2006-06-14
Expiry Date.......... 2011-06-14
Organisation Name.... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxx
Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email..........
Admin Phone.......... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email...........
Tech Phone........... +1.4089162124
Tech Fax.............

InfoGuy · 07-19-2011, 05:24 PM

VeriSign WHOIS

Have your relative contact the registrar immediately before the domain comes out of the Grace Renewal Period and changes to Redemption Period or it will cost more to restore it. If their name is listed as the Registrant or Administrative Contact, there shouldn't be much of a problem with the registrar. After renewal, be sure to update the WHOIS to reflect current and accurate info. Domains can be cancelled for inaccurate WHOIS data.

alias · 07-19-2011, 05:29 PM

If the relative's working information is listed in the email or phone part of the whois, contact yahoo domains where it is registered and go about verifying.

I assume you do not have login to the domain account [obviously].

Young · 07-19-2011, 06:33 PM

ill first say that i asked a stupid question about an email not even 2 weeks ago.....and i don't want to come off as a troll or a dick head. i am neither or. and in my almost 10k posts i have never been but....

HOLY SHIT! you didn't know of the whois tool?

CYF · 07-19-2011, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

VeriSign WHOIS

Have your relative contact the registrar immediately before the domain comes out of the Grace Renewal Period and changes to Redemption Period or it will cost more to restore it. If their name is listed as the Registrant or Administrative Contact, there shouldn't be much of a problem with the registrar. After renewal, be sure to update the WHOIS to reflect current and accurate info. Domains can be cancelled for inaccurate WHOIS data.

^^^ THIS.

Best of luck

ExtremeBank_Adam · 07-19-2011, 10:12 PM

http://www.whois.sc

Enter the domain name, then click the button.

Click the Registration tab.

What do you see?

glowlite · 07-19-2011, 10:27 PM

This is a ongoing issue with YaHoo hosted web sites and domain registration, contact them, tell them the story. They have, in my experience, been quite good at providing a solution.

Why in the fuck would you come to GFY for a solution? Go straight to the source 1st.

Adraco · 07-20-2011, 02:42 AM

Yahoo charges $35 per year for their .com renewals, they will be more than pleased to help out and retain you or your family member as an appreciated high paying client.

07-19-2011, 12:09 PM	#1
brentbacardi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,425	Renew expired domain when you don't know the host...? Hey, I have a family member who has a small business and a website for his brick and mortar. He is a web retard so he hired a guy to do is website for him years ago. The guy has disappeared but the sites been up and running for awhile with no issues... I just went to check it out for him to give him an offer on how I could redo it for him much nicer and the site was down. I check his domain registry and it expired on 6-14-11 so its I guess in the process of transfering ownership back... he has no idea where its hosted or where he got domain from so I can't figure out how to get in and try to renew it before its assigned back. The only thing I can find is yahoo domains is listed as the tech contact on the whois... Any suggestions how to snatch it up for him so I can get his site live and save him from the possibility someone else may steal his domain? __________________ Go Fuck Yourself!

07-19-2011, 12:15 PM	#3
brentbacardi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,425	Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. Tech Address......... Tech Address......... Sunnyvale Tech Address......... 94089 Tech Address......... CA Tech Address......... UNITED STATES Tech Email........... [email protected] Tech Phone........... +1.4089162124 Tech Fax............. Nah thats all that comes up other than his own personal info __________________ Go Fuck Yourself!

07-19-2011, 12:32 PM	#4
barcodes Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2,040	If he didn't get any warning emails that isn't a good sign. Sometimes, small web businesses or freelance designers will register the domain names under their own name. It becomes troublesome as if you piss them off or leave them, they can hold it hostage. If that company registered the domain name under their name you will have to contact the registrar. I have come across a number of new clients who decided to stop using their old designer and had their name held hostage, or like yourself, the designer disappeared and they were left not knowing what to do. They will attempt to contact the owner who they have listed. If they can't reach him, I think there is some documentation proving you are the business owner you might be able provide them to possibly get it back.I am sure it varies by registrar and with the domain pending delete etc., who knows. Network solutions works in this way but I don't know about the other places. If you fail to get the domain name directly from the registrar, you should look at www.snapnames.com. Buy a domain snap which basically attempts to grab a domain name right as it becomes available. If the domain name isn't that sought after, you have a good chance of snagging it. If someone else has a snap for that name and their snap beats yours to registering the domain, your s.o.l. Most times you wont even get the money back for the snap. Its like 40 - 60 bucks usually. At that point in time you could fight to get the domain back from the new buyer if you have the biz name trademarked but that can get expensive. check out http://www.pool.com/viewlist.aspx . Uncheck the tlds that do not apply to you and type in the domain name. With luck the domain will show up with the date it becomes available. Best of luck with this. Last edited by barcodes; 07-19-2011 at 12:36 PM..

07-19-2011, 12:33 PM	#5
barcodes Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2,040	Contact the yahoo tech email and tell them whats going on. He/She will give you the best advice. Last edited by barcodes; 07-19-2011 at 12:34 PM..

07-19-2011, 01:00 PM	#7
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07-19-2011, 12:12 PM	#2
iamtam So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,211	whois the domain. most of them have a registrar in there now.

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07-19-2011, 01:56 PM	#11
brentbacardi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,425	Copy and Pasted from whois.com whois search all the xxxxs are where my family members personal info is Also its not like a hot web domain that will get scooped up asap but its pretty unique that I could see some people buying domains could grab it or theres also the possibility of any competitors who go check and see the site down, know about websites, see the domain open and buy it. Whois Search Results Domain Name : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com Domain Name.......... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com Creation Date........ 2006-06-14 Registration Date.... 2006-06-14 Expiry Date.......... 2011-06-14 Organisation Name.... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Organisation Address. Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxxxx Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxx Organisation Address. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Organisation Address. UNITED STATES Admin Name........... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Admin Address........ Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Admin Address........ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Admin Address........ UNITED STATES Admin Email.......... Admin Phone.......... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Admin Fax............ Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. Tech Address......... Tech Address......... Sunnyvale Tech Address......... 94089 Tech Address......... CA Tech Address......... UNITED STATES Tech Email........... Tech Phone........... +1.4089162124 Tech Fax............. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself!

07-19-2011, 05:24 PM	#12
InfoGuy 80/20 Rule Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,052	VeriSign WHOIS Have your relative contact the registrar immediately before the domain comes out of the Grace Renewal Period and changes to Redemption Period or it will cost more to restore it. If their name is listed as the Registrant or Administrative Contact, there shouldn't be much of a problem with the registrar. After renewal, be sure to update the WHOIS to reflect current and accurate info. Domains can be cancelled for inaccurate WHOIS data. __________________ Support American Heroes \| How Bad is My Batch? \| Vaccine Deaths & Adverse Reactions \| Free Speech Coalition \| <WARNING> ePayService / Guerra Capital, INC / MTACC payments \| Flirt4Free Fucks their Affiliates \| Don't do business with piece of shit Andy Alvarez from Webmaster Central / VR3000, who said: "If it was up to me, they would have shot all 30,000 of those country loving shitheads"

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07-19-2011, 06:33 PM	#14
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	ill first say that i asked a stupid question about an email not even 2 weeks ago.....and i don't want to come off as a troll or a dick head. i am neither or. and in my almost 10k posts i have never been but.... HOLY SHIT! you didn't know of the whois tool? __________________ ★★★

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07-19-2011, 10:27 PM	#17
glowlite Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arizona/Indiana Posts: 366	This is a ongoing issue with YaHoo hosted web sites and domain registration, contact them, tell them the story. They have, in my experience, been quite good at providing a solution. Why in the fuck would you come to GFY for a solution? Go straight to the source 1st. Last edited by glowlite; 07-19-2011 at 10:29 PM..

07-20-2011, 02:42 AM	#18
Adraco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Onboard an airplane around the globe Posts: 3,737	Yahoo charges $35 per year for their .com renewals, they will be more than pleased to help out and retain you or your family member as an appreciated high paying client. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The truth is not affected by the beliefs, or doubts, of the majority.