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Donnie Gangsta · 01-28-2003, 12:04 AM

Hey.. if anyone could offer any input about the idea of hiring in house gallery makers/submitters, it would be cool.. I was thinking about hiring a few people to make AVS/TGP (and submit) from office here.. But since I don't have any experience doing such, I didn't know the degree to which doing so might be profitable.

I've been weighing the pro's and con's for a while and thought I might see if any of you guys might have experience with this... it's all for my own sites so I get 100% of the profit..

I would want people to do it from office instead of independently because people are a lot more productive in a controlled environment. And plus people doing it from home would figure out it would be more profitable for them to just do it themselves, probably

People who do this -- do you pay them per gallery, or by the hour, or what? And, how profitable is it? (I know that's a very broad question, and the answer depends on a lot of specifics, but considering such, I was looking for a very general answer, and would certainly appreciate sincere replies)

Cheers...

smut4all · 01-28-2003, 12:06 AM

plenty of people out here make great gallery designs, but ultimately it all depends on where you submit the galleries and what kind of traffic you get. But an awsome gallery design definetely is a +

GTS Mark · 01-28-2003, 12:59 AM

You should try us first and see if you like the results. I think you will be happily suprised.

DH

Donnie Gangsta · 01-28-2003, 01:00 AM

will pay $50 bux paypal for an honest serious answer with real #'s

thx

Sly_RJ · 01-28-2003, 01:02 AM

If you know nothing about it, how will you train them? Who will build converting galleries for you?

Donnie Gangsta · 01-28-2003, 01:02 AM

my designer is the shit (he's on salary).. i guess he could just teach them.. i was talking about hiring like graphics design majors at uni or something

Sly_RJ · 01-28-2003, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
my designer is the shit (he's on salary).. i guess he could just teach them.. i was talking about hiring like graphics design majors at uni or something

Galleries are about marketing, not fancy graphics.

Would you agree DrinkingHard?

railz · 01-28-2003, 01:22 AM

Agreed - a nice design is good, but if you can't sell you're wasting your time.

Good designers are around - those who know how to sell and market are rare.

Bake · 01-28-2003, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Galleries are about marketing, not fancy graphics.

Would you agree DrinkingHard?

Many people confuse good looking galleries with galleries that sell

GTS Mark · 01-28-2003, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Galleries are about marketing, not fancy graphics.

Would you agree DrinkingHard?

Absolutely man, look at Sleazydream. Do you think he has nice galleries? It is all about volume and a decent sponsor...

Newbies stop worrying so much about tweaking galleries, spend that time posting the galleries. An unposted gallery makes you $0.

DH

01-28-2003, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
my designer is the shit (he's on salary).. i guess he could just teach them.. i was talking about hiring like graphics design majors at uni or something

You mean like myself? I'm at the University as a GD major, but the problem is that I've realized how much I can make on my own

Just wondering what you had in mind though. Hit me up sometime at [email protected] .

Paul Markham · 01-28-2003, 04:11 AM

Hiring the right people is the key to success. I know little about the Internet and nothing about computers. But I hired a man who did and look at me now.

But they are right about marketing, no one is looking for a pretty design while he's got his dick in his hand. He wants a fantasy that is going to get him off.

kmanrox · 01-28-2003, 04:34 AM

i like to pay them salary plus bonuses, sometimes even a % of profit so they have motivation... you are right about having inhouse being better, but either way they will realize what they are doing can make them decent money on their own. Make them need you, help them with hosting their own shit if they say they will start their own stuff.... show them that they cannot get partner accounts on tgps because nobody knows them, don't teach them what makes a great gallery, just show give them the galleries and tell them to do the pics, and posting....

there are many tricks to getting your galleries listed, and connections is one of them....

JayJay · 01-28-2003, 04:45 AM

I agree

superweb · 01-28-2003, 04:53 AM

I just think, that if you become a sponsor & pay percentage to your affiliates(as many other paysite owners does), it will be much easier & more profitable.

Rockstar · 01-28-2003, 05:28 AM

Hi

Check us out
http://gallery-service.com
$500 per month includes:
we host your galleries (you provide the domain)
we design your galleries
we add recips
we hand submit to the top 60 tgps
we auto submit to another 750
we submit every day

If you are interested in hiring us on a salary basis instead please feel free to contact me by icq 177606166

We can also provide references

Dusen · 01-28-2003, 06:34 AM

I agree, the drive behind galleries that I see that most people miss is marketing, not flashiness. A good call to action, minimal flashiness in design, and top content will win out every time.

I would also agree with the suggestion that if you were hiring in house that you pay a salary that is fair, but encourage good performace with bonuses. If you make more money, they make more money

.

I would also offer to barter their work for hosting, etc if they feel that they want to start doing thing on their own. And stress to them that the time at the office is YOUR time, and if they wanted to do anything at night, you'd be glad to give them a hand getting started. I think it's more like kids and booze - if you tell them NO NO NO, then eventually they are going to do it anyway, and without your support they will eventually just ditch you.

Just my

NinjaSteve · 02-03-2004, 12:04 PM

http://gallery-service.com won't load for me.

wdsguy · 02-03-2004, 12:14 PM

Pay them a base salary+ a commission dependent on how much sales they generate from their work.

detoxed · 02-03-2004, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NinjaSteve
http://gallery-service.com won't load for me.

No shit, the guy was exposed as a scammer more than 6 months ago. Dont bump old threads.

Ludedude · 02-03-2004, 01:41 PM

Old? The thread is barely 5 days old

detoxed · 02-03-2004, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude
Old? The thread is barely 5 days old

What the hell are you smoking?

01-28-2003, 12:04 AM	#1
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	thinking about hiring gallery ppl Hey.. if anyone could offer any input about the idea of hiring in house gallery makers/submitters, it would be cool.. I was thinking about hiring a few people to make AVS/TGP (and submit) from office here.. But since I don't have any experience doing such, I didn't know the degree to which doing so might be profitable. I've been weighing the pro's and con's for a while and thought I might see if any of you guys might have experience with this... it's all for my own sites so I get 100% of the profit.. I would want people to do it from office instead of independently because people are a lot more productive in a controlled environment. And plus people doing it from home would figure out it would be more profitable for them to just do it themselves, probably People who do this -- do you pay them per gallery, or by the hour, or what? And, how profitable is it? (I know that's a very broad question, and the answer depends on a lot of specifics, but considering such, I was looking for a very general answer, and would certainly appreciate sincere replies) Cheers...

01-28-2003, 12:06 AM	#2
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01-28-2003, 01:02 AM	#5
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01-28-2003, 01:22 AM	#8
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	Agreed - a nice design is good, but if you can't sell you're wasting your time. Good designers are around - those who know how to sell and market are rare. __________________ This Space for Rent

01-28-2003, 04:11 AM	#12
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Hiring the right people is the key to success. I know little about the Internet and nothing about computers. But I hired a man who did and look at me now. But they are right about marketing, no one is looking for a pretty design while he's got his dick in his hand. He wants a fantasy that is going to get him off. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-28-2003, 12:59 AM	#3
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	You should try us first and see if you like the results. I think you will be happily suprised. DH

01-28-2003, 01:00 AM	#4
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	will pay $50 bux paypal for an honest serious answer with real #'s thx

01-28-2003, 04:34 AM	#13
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	i like to pay them salary plus bonuses, sometimes even a % of profit so they have motivation... you are right about having inhouse being better, but either way they will realize what they are doing can make them decent money on their own. Make them need you, help them with hosting their own shit if they say they will start their own stuff.... show them that they cannot get partner accounts on tgps because nobody knows them, don't teach them what makes a great gallery, just show give them the galleries and tell them to do the pics, and posting.... there are many tricks to getting your galleries listed, and connections is one of them.... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

01-28-2003, 04:45 AM	#14
JayJay Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,739	I agree

01-28-2003, 04:53 AM	#15
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01-28-2003, 05:28 AM	#16
Rockstar Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 333	Hi Check us out http://gallery-service.com $500 per month includes: we host your galleries (you provide the domain) we design your galleries we add recips we hand submit to the top 60 tgps we auto submit to another 750 we submit every day If you are interested in hiring us on a salary basis instead please feel free to contact me by icq 177606166 We can also provide references __________________ ICQ - 177606166

01-28-2003, 06:34 AM	#17
Dusen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: East Coast. Posts: 2,251	I agree, the drive behind galleries that I see that most people miss is marketing, not flashiness. A good call to action, minimal flashiness in design, and top content will win out every time. I would also agree with the suggestion that if you were hiring in house that you pay a salary that is fair, but encourage good performace with bonuses. If you make more money, they make more money . I would also offer to barter their work for hosting, etc if they feel that they want to start doing thing on their own. And stress to them that the time at the office is YOUR time, and if they wanted to do anything at night, you'd be glad to give them a hand getting started. I think it's more like kids and booze - if you tell them NO NO NO, then eventually they are going to do it anyway, and without your support they will eventually just ditch you. Just my __________________ Penis Pill Sponsor List and Reviews: http://www.pillsponsors.com

02-03-2004, 12:04 PM	#18
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	http://gallery-service.com won't load for me. __________________ ...

02-03-2004, 12:14 PM	#19
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	Pay them a base salary+ a commission dependent on how much sales they generate from their work.

02-03-2004, 01:41 PM	#21
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Old? The thread is barely 5 days old __________________