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Serge Litehead · 07-14-2011, 10:13 PM

50 hand picked apples

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Juicy's having too much fun with his device

facialfreak · 07-14-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

I've never used Excel to anywhere near it's potential so I just switched to Numbers and it does everything I need and more.

I'm strongly considering dumping my desktop altogether and picking up the new Apple 27" monitor, a Drobo enclosure, and a Henge Dock.

Aaron: thank you for the link .... that HENGE DOCK is fucking sweet! It's exactly what I need to finally use my i7 8GB MBP as a desktop replacement!! I just ordered it!

I am always amazed at how people who do not like Mac, will go out of their way to talk shit about it, and/or insult mac users ...

Computers - just like cars - come in many different types ... If you wish to drive a BMW, and can afford to do so, why should Ford drivers insult your intelligence and fault you for wanting to drive a BMW ..

Is the BMW a better quality car than the Ford? That depends on what you are looking for in a car .... both will get you from point A to point B

I have never really understood the whole ANTI-MAC movement ...

If you can afford a Mac, and want to use one, why should anybody try to take that away from you?

Years ago MACS were better suited to many graphical tasks or desktop publishing, but with today's computer hardware offerings, the choice of which computer to use, really is just a matter of personal preference!

I dream of a day when Mac users and PC users can co-exist peacefully

(by the way, I have 4 PCs, 2 CentOS boxes - for server interaction - an 8GB i7 MacBook Pro, and an iPad ... who all live together under one roof in harmony ... )

machinegunkelly · 07-14-2011, 11:39 PM

I didn't read the thread, only your OP but I'll let ya know, just pull the trigger man.

I'm on my second Imac, I switched to Mac 4 years ago after the best buy guy just said something the right way and it snagged my interest.

4 years later, I'd never switch back to PC, it would be the most painful thing I'd ever go through, and for some perspective, I've recently had my skull ripped apart while awake ;)

People say macs are over priced, same as a PC etc.
Those people have never used a mac.

I'm rocking the model similar to what you are looking at ( 27inch 3.2GHZ with 8gb memory ) and I can't complain about anything at all.

it's going to take you a while to actually figure out the whole way of using a mac, but once you do, you'll realize you were duped by windows garbage for years.

Oh, and macs the future anyway, 90% of these guys that say they'll never use a mac will be in at least the next 5 years, mark my words.

My 4 year old mac was givin to my parents and still works like new 4 years later....

machinegunkelly · 07-14-2011, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I hear this often but I don't really understand it.

What exactly makes you more productive?

Basically a Mac OSX system at first glance to a windows user looks like a giant clusterfuck right ?
well over time you learn to treat that clusterfuck like a messy room, it looks like a clusterfuck but you know exactly where everything is.

So you guys see our windows all over the place and think WTF, well we just click back and forth between those windows easy pie, never going to any start menu, programs menu and back and forth between maximized windows etc.

anything I need is at the flick of a wrist.
Flick high right, I have my weather, calculator, color picker, anything I need like that.
Flick low right, All my program windows show themselves so I can easily click to the window I'm looking for, My system is set up a little fancier than this, but this is general idea of Mac workflow.

Combine spaces, expose and a quick mouse setting and you have basically a gesture based system that's fully intuitive.

If you're like me, you'll find you use more hotkeys than anything, and often when working in front of people they are amazed at how fast you work and flip through all your shit, without barely clicking the mouse.

Overall, I mean it's hard to explain but it's an environment much better suited to fast paced work. I find windows very constrictive... Full screen applications that are usually clunky and poorly designed for navigation and workflow, you won't find this on a mac.

Honestly the $$ was worth it for me to be rid of virii and spyware for good, if nothing else.

Just that fuckign frustration I went through every damn week at least on PC was enough to get me to switch.

DamianJ · 07-15-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I have a huge HP touchscreen running Win7 and I've never had any problems with it. It works fine with windows.

I'm really pleased you think so. It's great it works for you. However, almost everyone else in the world apart from Ballmer pretty much has realised that to get an OS to work with touch, you need to design it with touch in mind from the ground up. It's cool you don't understand that, and it's just wonderful you like having a touchscreen desktop running windows.

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As for my little Duo here, it's perfect for me. It's smaller than the laptop it replaces, has a keyboard, and works as tablet for when I'm surfing.

Again, that's awesome. However, most people have realised that a hybrid machine isn't the way to go. That's why they aren't selling very many of them. The linova one which was dual boot and turned into android when it wasn't docked was the best idea, but that's not sold well either.

For me, it would be way to underpowered to use as a work machine, and too big to use as a tablet. I'd use a desktop machine for working and a tablet for sofa surfing/travel.

But, as I said, if it works for you, that's just peachy!

Sly · 07-15-2011, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

Basically a Mac OSX system at first glance to a windows user looks like a giant clusterfuck right ?
well over time you learn to treat that clusterfuck like a messy room, it looks like a clusterfuck but you know exactly where everything is.

So you guys see our windows all over the place and think WTF, well we just click back and forth between those windows easy pie, never going to any start menu, programs menu and back and forth between maximized windows etc.

anything I need is at the flick of a wrist.
Flick high right, I have my weather, calculator, color picker, anything I need like that.
Flick low right, All my program windows show themselves so I can easily click to the window I'm looking for, My system is set up a little fancier than this, but this is general idea of Mac workflow.

Combine spaces, expose and a quick mouse setting and you have basically a gesture based system that's fully intuitive.

If you're like me, you'll find you use more hotkeys than anything, and often when working in front of people they are amazed at how fast you work and flip through all your shit, without barely clicking the mouse.

Overall, I mean it's hard to explain but it's an environment much better suited to fast paced work. I find windows very constrictive... Full screen applications that are usually clunky and poorly designed for navigation and workflow, you won't find this on a mac.

Honestly the $$ was worth it for me to be rid of virii and spyware for good, if nothing else.

Just that fuckign frustration I went through every damn week at least on PC was enough to get me to switch.

In summary, you're telling me that the Mac is making you more productive because you can make mouse gestures.

LOL.

If you like it, that's all that matters. Mac/PC arguments are usually pretty retarded, both systems can do most of the same things... when they can't, we can blame software.

Babaganoosh · 07-16-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

People say macs are over priced, same as a PC etc.
Those people have never used a mac.

Macs are overpriced computers built with the same hardware anyone can buy off the shelf. Mac users are paying a premium for OS X and a lot of marketing hype.

I am a former Mac user. (Technically still a Mac owner but my Macbook sits under the bed collecting dust).

machinegunkelly · 07-16-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

In summary, you're telling me that the Mac is making you more productive because you can make mouse gestures.

LOL.

If you like it, that's all that matters. Mac/PC arguments are usually pretty retarded, both systems can do most of the same things... when they can't, we can blame software.

Actually my point was that workflow is better, largely influenced by a more intuitive GUI, that just flows better, increasing productivity ... which answers the exact question that you asked.

You can laugh at that, but it's an honest answer to your question, fact is everything is where I need it, and easy to access.

Not sure if you expected to hear that unicorns fly out my ass every time I start it up, making me more productive! I mean it's software, it can only get sooooooo different hehe.

Sometimes a few little differences in GUI can make ALL the difference in workflow and pace.

machinegunkelly · 07-16-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Macs are overpriced computers built with the same hardware anyone can buy off the shelf. Mac users are paying a premium for OS X and a lot of marketing hype.

I am a former Mac user. (Technically still a Mac owner but my Macbook sits under the bed collecting dust).

No we pay $29 for our operating system, and a premium for a really nice computer

I've owned Top of the line Dells', An alienware, and many "home built" PC's and used to sound alot like you guys... Till I bought my Mac and made the switch, then I " Saw for myself" so to speak.

The reason these arguments are always so stupid is because people forget that Apple is a HARDWARE company, and I Like apples' hardware.

Its the same as cars, you can drive a focus, or you can pay a premium for something that looks and feels better, even though they have the same essential ideas behind them.

Babaganoosh · 07-16-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

No we pay $29 for our operating system, and a premium for a really nice computer

I've owned Top of the line Dells', An alienware, and many "home built" PC's and used to sound alot like you guys... Till I bought my Mac and made the switch, then I " Saw for myself" so to speak.

The reason these arguments are always so stupid is because people forget that Apple is a HARDWARE company, and I Like apples' hardware.

Its the same as cars, you can drive a focus, or you can pay a premium for something that looks and feels better, even though they have the same essential ideas behind them.

Apple assembles and sells computers. They don't manufacture their own components. The components aren't special. Most can be purchased from a company like Newegg. They're made by the same manufacturers that make other components (Intel, Samsung, Hynix, Seagate etc).

AdultKing · 07-16-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Apple assembles and sells computers. They don't manufacture their own components. The components aren't special. Most can be purchased from a company like Newegg. They're made by the same manufacturers that make other components (Intel, Samsung, Hynix, Seagate etc).

Trouble is most PC's are packaged really badly, the feel of a computer is as important as what's inside. Compare a Macbook Pro to almost any PC Laptop and you'll be hard pressed to find anything of the quality in design and presentation of the Mac - these are factors in productivity as a machine that is ergonomically sound is going to increase your productivity compared to a machine which feels clumsy.

2MuchMark · 07-16-2011, 01:08 PM

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I don't want to get sucked into their silly little cult.

Steve Jobs is definitely a marketing genius, to get so many people to pay more for a machine that is usually slower and non-upgradable. As long as they're happy with their cute little white desk ornament, more power to them I guess.

Dude, you don't get it. Apple's simply work BETTER than PC's. Networking is EASY, Connecting peripherals is even easier. There's no such thing as device conflicts. I am much more productive on my Mac than I ever was on any of my PC's.

You are closing yourself off to a nicer work environment. Go to an Apple store and sit in front of the sexiest Mac you see and give it a spin. This has nothing to do with good sales pitches. Apple makes superior products. Nothing more complicated than that.

SomeCreep · 07-16-2011, 02:34 PM

Once you go Mac, you never go back.

biskoppen · 07-16-2011, 02:55 PM

I have a 21" iMac.. never uses it

Serge Litehead · 07-16-2011, 02:56 PM

one day I'll try this OSX, I have couple unopened previous version discs laying around somewhere.. wonder if it will run on my couple year old HP laptop

my first and last experience with macs was somewhere in 96 damn thing was crashing just by running netscape on it. first time I sow one button mouse I was like wtf how do i do right click

machinegunkelly · 07-16-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Apple assembles and sells computers. They don't manufacture their own components. The components aren't special. Most can be purchased from a company like Newegg. They're made by the same manufacturers that make other components (Intel, Samsung, Hynix, Seagate etc).

Their buying power allows them to lock tech down that other companies don't even have access to yet, making it impossible for the competition to keep up.

Look at the iphone, macbook air and Ipad for instance, it wasn't that all the competition didn't want to keep up, it's that it was impossible for them to get their hands on the same tech.

In fact not one company can produce anything close to their aluminum manufacturing tech to this day and they've been rocking it for a few years.

We could go in circles for days about this but honestly it all comes down to preference in the end no matter what.

Myself, I'd rather a prepackaged machine, than building my own.. especially when that machine is so fuckin' sexy and easy to operate.

Sly · 07-16-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

Actually my point was that workflow is better, largely influenced by a more intuitive GUI, that just flows better, increasing productivity ... which answers the exact question that you asked.

You can laugh at that, but it's an honest answer to your question, fact is everything is where I need it, and easy to access.

Not sure if you expected to hear that unicorns fly out my ass every time I start it up, making me more productive! I mean it's software, it can only get sooooooo different hehe.

Sometimes a few little differences in GUI can make ALL the difference in workflow and pace.

Yeh, I think it's a personal preference thing. If that setup makes you more productive, that's great and that's what you should do. I don't think it's anything specifically Mac though, it's YOU.

I do like unicorns though!

machinegunkelly · 07-16-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Yeh, I think it's a personal preference thing. If that setup makes you more productive, that's great and that's what you should do. I don't think it's anything specifically Mac though, it's YOU.

I do like unicorns though!

Unicorns are pretty awesome.

PornStarToys · 07-16-2011, 04:04 PM

Lots of jabber in this thread.

I have a Mac and a PC. Both are great. I prefer Mac.

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It's like cars. Why do some people choose a Toyota, while others buy a shit Saturn?

Just pick what you want! We're at a day and age where both work brilliantly!

facialfreak · 07-16-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PornStarToys

Lots of jabber in this thread.

I have a Mac and a PC. Both are great. I prefer Mac.

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It's like cars. Why do some people choose a Toyota, while others buy a shit Saturn?

Just pick what you want! We're at a day and age where both work brilliantly!

I CONCUR!! This was my point exactly ...

DBS.US · 07-16-2011, 10:13 PM

I have a Mac and a PC. Both are great. I prefer Mac.
I also have a pile of dead PC's, but no dead Macs.

NETbilling · 07-17-2011, 01:38 AM

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Dude, you don't get it. Apple's simply work BETTER than PC's. Networking is EASY, Connecting peripherals is even easier. There's no such thing as device conflicts. I am much more productive on my Mac than I ever was on any of my PC's.

You are closing yourself off to a nicer work environment. Go to an Apple store and sit in front of the sexiest Mac you see and give it a spin. This has nothing to do with good sales pitches. Apple makes superior products. Nothing more complicated than that.

Very well said. It is all about the user experience and Apple has it nailed.

I went to the grand opening of the Apple store here in Valencia, CA yesterday morning and there were 1000 people standing in line outside, and there wasn't even a sale on anything, just a free t-shirt for all. Absolutely amazing.

NETbilling · 07-17-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

I have a Mac and a PC. Both are great. I prefer Mac.
I also have a pile of dead PC's, but no dead Macs.

Same here. I even still have an 8 year old G4 that I use in my office and works fine.
It's crazy how long Apple's products last typically.

MaDalton · 07-17-2011, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling

Same here. I even still have an 8 year old G4 that I use in my office and works fine.
It's crazy how long Apple's products last typically.

$900 for a new display on a 2.5 year old macbook pro that had cost $3500

bought a full new toshiba laptop for $900 instead

(which is also faster, has a bigger drive and so on)

Sly · 07-17-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

$900 for a new display on a 2.5 year old macbook pro that had cost $3500

bought a full new toshiba laptop for $900 instead

(which is also faster, has a bigger drive and so on)

I don't really mind replacing computers, I figure it's part of the trade. No different than a mechanic buying new tools throughout their work career.

My main machine is approaching year #4. I can notice a slight lag in speed for sure, but still running great, I really don't see me replacing it anytime soon. I paid $1k for it and it was pretty tricked out at the time.

My thought is I can spend $1k every 3-4 years and have fairly up to date equipment for a fair price or spend $3k every 3-4 years and have fairly up to date equipment for a much higher price. Same with TVs. Technology is still moving pretty fast. Both of my TVs are 5+ years and I already want new ones, why in the hell did I spend so much money on them 5+ years ago getting the "best" when I probably never noticed the difference anyway?

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machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,284	I didn't read the thread, only your OP but I'll let ya know, just pull the trigger man. I'm on my second Imac, I switched to Mac 4 years ago after the best buy guy just said something the right way and it snagged my interest. 4 years later, I'd never switch back to PC, it would be the most painful thing I'd ever go through, and for some perspective, I've recently had my skull ripped apart while awake ;) People say macs are over priced, same as a PC etc. Those people have never used a mac. I'm rocking the model similar to what you are looking at ( 27inch 3.2GHZ with 8gb memory ) and I can't complain about anything at all. it's going to take you a while to actually figure out the whole way of using a mac, but once you do, you'll realize you were duped by windows garbage for years. Oh, and macs the future anyway, 90% of these guys that say they'll never use a mac will be in at least the next 5 years, mark my words. My 4 year old mac was givin to my parents and still works like new 4 years later.... __________________ dead.

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