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Old 07-11-2011, 08:22 AM   #1
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The US RULES Marijuana has NO medical use

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) ruled on Friday that marijuana has "no accepted medical use" and should therefore remain illegal under federal law ? regardless of conflicting state legislation allowing medical marijuana and despite hundreds of studies and centuries of medical practice attesting to the drug's benefits.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/07/1...#ixzz1RoJKFdKJ
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:29 AM   #2
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Interesting note from the comments of that article;

We have a federal Law that requires the Drug Czar to lie (take actions as necessary) to the people.

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/...orization.html

Responsibilities. –The Director– [...]
(12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of
National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or
contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other
use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the
Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as
necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in
any form) that–
is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration.
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This was linked from that article, pretty intredasting: http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/0...-are-paranoid/
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Of course the DEA is going to say that, job protection.
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Of course the DEA is going to say that, job protection.
Yes this really should not come as a surprise to anyone. Doing what is contrary to the trend of public opinion and more importantly common sense is exactly what tax payers in the US elect to do each time they vote... for the most part
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I like how they make bust after bust of million dollar drug caches but never catch
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Making buys and staging bust would be a good way to promote their cause.

Not saying it happens, just saying.


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Does Marijuana cure medical problems or just relieve pain and suffering?

I think Marijuana should be legal, just posing a question.
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I would like to "RULE" that the U.S. govt. has NO business telling adults what they can and can't do for fun.
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The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) ruled on Friday that marijuana has "no accepted medical use"
Neither does Alcohol or caffeine, and yet...
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The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) ruled on Friday that marijuana has "no accepted medical use" and should therefore remain illegal under federal law — regardless of conflicting state legislation allowing medical marijuana and despite hundreds of studies and centuries of medical practice attesting to the drug's benefits.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/07/1...#ixzz1RoJKFdKJ
It;s actually been taht way for a long time but I'd bet that this presages busts against growers and outlets in states which have quite in violation of federal law, legalized medical pot.

Keep your heads down.

H.Obama says hie will not enforce federal law against such states but he is losing in the polls so may well have to take acation to satisfy at least some of his supporters.

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The person who made this decision, United States DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart, is a career law enforcement officer, which means some cop just said that. So it is BS.

http://blog.norml.org/2011/07/08/fed...ical-cannabis/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Leonhart

But we all know cops need to arrest pot smokers, or half their duties would go away and they would get paid less.

where's Obama now????

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They made a decision that they are ignorant.

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On 2 February 2010, President Barack Obama nominated Leonhart for the position of DEA Administrator;

OBAAAAAAMA you fucker. I'm going red now asshole, just because of this.

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I could give a shit if it's "medical" or not.

People should be able to live their lives as they see fit. If a guy works his ass off all week, pays his taxes, etc. And then at the end of the week wants to go out and get shit faced at a bar, do a line, smoke a joint, get laid...what the fuck is the govt. doing telling him he can't?

It's as stupid as the govt. investigating steroids in baseball. What a goddamn joke.
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Weed costs $10 a pound in Laos.

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Why would it "remain illegal under federal law"? Pot does less damage then cigarettes, isn't addictive, and makes people buy and eat junk food.

Make it legal and tax it.
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Make it legal and tax it.
When I was a teenager in the 1970's pot seemed very close to being legalized back then. But I can remember my parents discussions about it...and they always said it wouldn't be legal because the govt. could NOT tax it. Everybody would just grow their own.
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I think ultimately that is the big threat. Making beer takes a little effort, other drugs well yeah not easy to just make, but cannabis? throw some seeds in the corner of your backyard, check back in a month. lol wheeeeee

budweiser profits drop. pill companies lose profit. that's why they keep it illegal.
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And I am saying this here and now, seriously. Obama just lost my vote for re-election. Done deal Barry. You lied.
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I think ultimately that is the big threat. Making beer takes a little effort, other drugs well yeah not easy to just make, but cannabis? throw some seeds in the corner of your backyard, check back in a month. lol wheeeeee
Yep, and most people have now gone high tech. They get the lighting they need and the mini-indoor irrigation and set up shop right in the spare bedroom or the basement.
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The DEA is just like OSHA, trying to justify its budget and its existence.
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When I was a teenager in the 1970's pot seemed very close to being legalized back then. But I can remember my parents discussions about it...and they always said it wouldn't be legal because the govt. could NOT tax it. Everybody would just grow their own.
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When I was a teenager in the 1970's pot seemed very close to being legalized back then. But I can remember my parents discussions about it...and they always said it wouldn't be legal because the govt. could NOT tax it. Everybody would just grow their own.
interesting logic but with consumerism prevalent within society, i would think that nothing would change that much

unless making weed legal is going to suddenly turn a portion of the population into hardworking farmers
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unless making weed legal is going to suddenly turn a portion of the population into hardworking farmers
It wasn't that hard to grow. Why do you think they call it "weed". Plant a few seeds, put water on it and in no time at all you have plenty for your own consumption. 2 or 3 plants would take care of even the most serious smoker.

For a guy like me...I would only need one plant, and never use all of that even.
It would be easier than growing a rose bush. (much easier...my damn rose bushes are a bitch to grow lol )
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I dont smoke weed any more but I used to when I was younger.
We had a similar bullshit with it over here in the UK and at one stage thought they were gonna legalize it. They declased it to a C drug in 2001 witch meant you couldent get arrested for possession but only for distribution then in 2009 they reclased it as a B drug which meant you could once again get arrested for possession.
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Does Marijuana cure medical problems or just relieve pain and suffering?

I think Marijuana should be legal, just posing a question.
99% of the Big Pharma drugs don't "cure" anything either.

That would result in less sales - EXACTLY the same as pot.

BTW, the idea that sales wouldn't exist because you can grow it yourself is silly too. You can grow tobacco if you want, but people don't bother, because it's all packaged and ready to buy - same as medical (or today's street) marijuana.

Throw some seeds in the corner of your yard, and maybe you'll get a few plants, but if you have no idea what you are doing, all you will get is crappy weed. You will still pay for the quality stuff.

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I could give a shit if it's "medical" or not.

People should be able to live their lives as they see fit. If a guy works his ass off all week, pays his taxes, etc. And then at the end of the week wants to go out and get shit faced at a bar, do a line, smoke a joint, get laid...what the fuck is the govt. doing telling him he can't?

It's as stupid as the govt. investigating steroids in baseball. What a goddamn joke.
Um thats some stupid logic there rob thats like saying fuck most of the drug laws same thing as saying fuck the copyright laws. We have to live by the laws of the land we live in or we get bitch slapped lol
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Of course the DEA is going to say that, job protection.
Also job and investment protection for all of the privatized prisons that are quickly becoming a big business.

The owners of this country love prisons! They marginalize the poor, they make money, and in most cases they prevents MILLIONS of likely Democratic voters from voting while they are incarcerated, and AFTERWARDS as well, since they will be deemed felons!

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Robbie you got it all wrong. Growing great weed isn't as simple as just popping a seed in the ground and then waiting to get baked some day in the near future.

Also, you can grow your own tomatoes but I bet you just buy them. They could very easily tax it. Lobbyists are what help keep it illegal. There is too much industry against it.. Pharmaceutical companies, corn refiners, paper industry and even places like Dupont need to keep marijuana illegal.
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How does the DEA "rule" on anything? Aren't they just an enforcement agency?
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very true, imagine the money saved if they were both eliminated ? , but at this point you really cant, they are way too ingrained into the burocracy
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im old as fuck .. i missed the advent and ending of medical mj??

oh well a few times in amsterdam is enough for me.. not much of a smoker
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Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/07/1...#ixzz1RoJKFdKJ
Keyword is "accepted".

Ignorant people simply do not "accept" it's beneficial use.



When people grow up learning that something is bad, they will not likely change
their minds for their entire life time no matter what evidence is presented to
the contrary.

And that's why we have doctors/PHDs that still believe in the devil.
No matter how high their degree there is still a degree of stupidity.
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i love when they use faulty studies to justify legislation ..

The very first key the study is faulty is ", they used a marijuana-like drug to"

so if i was trying to argue "apples" caused paranoia , a faulty study would be me using "oranges" to test with and call it "apple like"

In a nutshell they basically are saying marijuana made rats more scared of being shocked.. hello.. the rats had a justifiable reason to be scared.. they were being electrocuted.. If anything the study shows marijuana HELPED them be MORE aware of a truly scary event.

This is just another study to perpetuate silly myths.. like smoking marijuana lowers sperm count.. even if lets say we could prove beyond a doubt marijuana does lower sperm count. Physical evidence says it is not a concern.. i.e. hippies don't seem to have any problems having children.. infact quite the opposite.
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Robbie you got it all wrong. Growing great weed isn't as simple as just popping a seed in the ground and then waiting to get baked some day in the near future.

Also, you can grow your own tomatoes but I bet you just buy them. They could very easily tax it. Lobbyists are what help keep it illegal. There is too much industry against it.. Pharmaceutical companies, corn refiners, paper industry and even places like Dupont need to keep marijuana illegal.
Yes there is a difference between growing weed, and growing *good* weed.

It's the difference between an unripened tomato from the store, or a ripened on the vine organic tomato. Depends on how it is grown.

Haven't you ever smoked an outdoor grow? vs. hydro.... the bugs eat the thc crystals, but it still works. just not as juicy and ripe.

and tomatoes grow wild too... there are wild cherry tomatoes growing in my yard now, I didn't even plant. They might taste good, too. fuck im gonna eat some lolz
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the first time i tried weed was in florida when i was working there
to get weed in america and Australia is just like going to the corner shop very easy
so why ban it its just crazy
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When I was a teenager in the 1970's pot seemed very close to being legalized back then. But I can remember my parents discussions about it...and they always said it wouldn't be legal because the govt. could NOT tax it. Everybody would just grow their own.
Everybody would just grow their own pot on the same day that everybody churns
their own butter from a cartoon of milk and brews their own beer in the basement.




There is one thing that business can always count on in America : Lazy consumers.


Saying that everyone will grow their own is like saying that everyone will do their
own website programming. I mean everything needed is here : w3schools.com

Look how that one worked out.
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It's as stupid as the govt. investigating steroids in baseball. What a goddamn joke.
lol yeah, they're very serious about the "integrity" of the game..

COUGH, LAUGH, COUGH.. Ugh I just drank some bongwater..
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The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) ruled on Friday that marijuana has "no accepted medical use" and should therefore remain illegal under federal law ? regardless of conflicting state legislation allowing medical marijuana and despite hundreds of studies and centuries of medical practice attesting to the drug's benefits.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/07/1...#ixzz1RoJKFdKJ
A very good decision. Can somebody tell me why narcotics should be legal? Marijuana is for junkies so why this news should bother normal people?
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A very good decision. Can somebody tell me why narcotics should be legal? Marijuana is for junkies so why this news should bother normal people?
i bet you'd understand/relate better if they made sucking cock illegal...





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Everybody would just grow their own pot on the same day that everybody churns
their own butter from a cartoon of milk and brews their own beer in the basement.
Maybe. I know that when I was in highschool, me and all my little hoodlum buddies all grew our own (I lived in Florida)...I had it easy because my dad owned thousands of acres of orange groves and I would just go out to a pond in the middle of one of the groves and grow plants right there hidden in the bushes beside the pond.

Of course by the time I went to college, all my friends were more interested in the fact that my dad also had several thousand acres of ranch land with cattle. So we lost interest in pot and started picking 'shrooms instead and making tea all through college. lol

But anyway...back then (and probably because it was Florida and the weather was perfect for it) most everybody I knew grew their own. I still remember all the different "types": Sensemilla, Columbian Gold, Panama Red, etc.
I stopped smoking it after highschool. But a buddy gave me a hit off some of his California grown stuff a few weeks ago and WOW! That shit knocked me for a loop!

Here in Nevada it's a "grow your own state" if you have a medical card. I don't know the specifics, but I think they allow you to grow 1 or 2 adult plants and 1 or 2 juvenile plants simultaneously.
Unfortunately (like most states) there is a dumb twist to the law.
Yes, it's legal to grow here...but SEEDS are illegal!
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i bet you'd understand/relate better if they made sucking cock illegal...
Hmm, I don't think any SANE country can forbid ladies to suck my penis. At least in my county it's not forbidden. However as far as I know, if in some US state(s) some girl will suck my cock it will be considered as a sodomy. Barbarians
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if the idiots in power would just legalize marijuana, regulate online poker, and tax both, this country could quickly work down the debt that is drowning us
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