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Old 07-11-2011, 02:09 PM   #51
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Wow, even though millions can testify that it does?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:09 PM   #52
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Robbie, you should write a book, man. Serious.

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Old 07-11-2011, 02:32 PM   #53
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You cant patent soemthing that grows in nature.

You CAN genetically modify the plant to be able to patent it.

There are too many people around with their own strains. The government would have to spend countless resources taxing all the different head shops. Not profitable enough. Other option is the government growing and selling the weed through large contractors. They would have to make it illegal for anyone not to buy, sell or grow non-approved strains. The food industry in the US and Canada works this way. Only government approved genetic strains are allowed to be sold, bought and exchanged on market.

In today's watchful eye and the internet age it would not be able to be implemented without a huge uproar.

Thus allowing Marijuana to be legal and a taxable commodity is way too much bother for them to allow. You'll never see US or Canada like Amsterdam, however, you will someday soon see it being legal to poses within reasons and that's as far as it will ever go.
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:53 PM   #54
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Up to 1 ounce of personal use is legal in the city of Denver We also have the first cannabis restaurant in the U.S.

For a city of 4 million people, we also have the lowest crime rate of any major city in the U.S. In short, Legalization works!
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:04 PM   #55
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This is why arguments like "legalize this for xyz reason" do not work out. Does the government have the right to say what goes into your body, watch on the internet, or who you can marry? If the answer is yes, then you are not free but a slave that sways with the wishes of a master.
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:20 PM   #56
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bottom line is whiskey is worse than MJ. I should know i drink too much jack daniels. why not make whiskey illegal. its silly
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:25 PM   #57
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bottom line is whiskey is worse than MJ. I should know i drink too much jack daniels. why not make whiskey illegal. its silly
Case in point - straight from today's headlines...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...html?tag=stack
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:27 PM   #58
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:21 PM   #59
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99% of the Big Pharma drugs don't "cure" anything either.
That wasn't my question, nice side step though.

If it doesn't cure anything but only relieves pain and suffering. Given the enormous furore that would result from legalising it, I can see why they decided this way.

I know it sucks, but Governments should react to public pressure don't they?

Word I used was should, not do.
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:47 AM   #60
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I am always a bit surprised when I meet new pot smokers.

For instance: I go to a huge softball tournament for girls aged 8 to 18 years old. My daughter is 16 at the time. I go around this hill to take a piss and there is the commissioner of her league, four of the best (winning-est) coaches the league has ever known and several other people from the board of directors. All smoking a big fat doobie!

Another time: At work and I am walking out to my car after a shift. It looks like someone is welding on the other side of a van and it peaks my curiosity so I investigate. Round the front of the van and there stands several employees of the company. A shop manager, church decon, clown of the company, one of the hardest workers, one of the most senior employees and the biggest bitch of a woman I had ever known (up until that point).

Go to play poker: The group is a bunch of well off individuals. Business owners... I go to the backyard during the break and get handed the pipe from some guy that had to be 70... Out of 28 people playing that night 24 of them were out there passing several pipes...

You just never know.

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Old 07-12-2011, 02:51 AM   #61
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You cant patent soemthing that grows in nature.

You CAN genetically modify the plant to be able to patent it.

There are too many people around with their own strains. The government would have to spend countless resources taxing all the different head shops. Not profitable enough. Other option is the government growing and selling the weed through large contractors. They would have to make it illegal for anyone not to buy, sell or grow non-approved strains. The food industry in the US and Canada works this way. Only government approved genetic strains are allowed to be sold, bought and exchanged on market.

In today's watchful eye and the internet age it would not be able to be implemented without a huge uproar.

Thus allowing Marijuana to be legal and a taxable commodity is way too much bother for them to allow. You'll never see US or Canada like Amsterdam, however, you will someday soon see it being legal to poses within reasons and that's as far as it will ever go.
Not completely true...

You can patent the process of extraction and the final product. Acai berries is a good example... Finding something new is difficult, but when someone finds it, they make a killing off of it.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:01 AM   #62
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:06 AM   #63
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Does Marijuana cure medical problems or just relieve pain and suffering?

I think Marijuana should be legal, just posing a question.
I am not sure it cures anything by smoking but there are some reports and documentaries about pure THC oil being a possible cancer suppressor or cure. Google 'run from the cure'.
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Old 07-12-2011, 07:05 AM   #64
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That wasn't my question, nice side step though.

If it doesn't cure anything but only relieves pain and suffering. Given the enormous furore that would result from legalising it, I can see why they decided this way.

I know it sucks, but Governments should react to public pressure don't they?

Word I used was should, not do.
I'm not arguing with you at all, but it WAS EXACTLY your question...

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Does Marijuana cure medical problems or just relieve pain and suffering?
to which I replied that MOST LEGAL pharmaceuticals do NOT CURE anything either. They just offer temporary relief, so you can stay on the hook.

There is no profit in "cures".

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Old 07-12-2011, 07:38 AM   #65
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That wasn't my question, nice side step though.

If it doesn't cure anything but only relieves pain and suffering. Given the enormous furore that would result from legalising it, I can see why they decided this way.

I know it sucks, but Governments should react to public pressure don't they?

Word I used was should, not do.
Ahh, that's not a decent argument.

Cigarettes don't cure anything either, but you can buy all you want.



They say "it ruins lives"; but the pot smoker's life is not ruined until they are
arrested. So they are ruining lives to stop the life from being ruined.

The reason there is crime associated with pot is because we made it criminal.
But watch people blame crime on the substance when in fact we are the ones
that made the substance the crime.

We created a situation where only criminals are willing to sell it, yet we wonder
why there is crime.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:25 AM   #66
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:31 AM   #67
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They say "it ruins lives"; but the pot smoker's life is not ruined until they are
arrested. So they are ruining lives to stop the life from being ruined.

The reason there is crime associated with pot is because we made it criminal.
But watch people blame crime on the substance when in fact we are the ones
that made the substance the crime.

We created a situation where only criminals are willing to sell it, yet we wonder
why there is crime.
And THAT is the entire thing in a nutshell.

Make it legal and all that "crime" goes away.
The border with Mexico becomes "safe".
Cop will actually have time to solve REAL crimes.
The prisons are no longer overcrowded.

It's absolutely no different than when alcohol prohibition was attempted. That little dumbass move created a giant organized criminal set up that lasts to this very day. There would have been no Al Capone, Bugsy Seigal, etc. and all those horrible shootouts, massacres, and gunfights if it weren't for the U.S. govt making alcohol "illegal".

Everytime the govt oversteps it's authority and tries to run people's lives it ALWAYS ends up badly.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:06 AM   #68
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Weed is all natural!
It used to be until they started to lace it with crushed glass over here in the UK


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