The USA Has Gone To Hell: Viet Nam Vet Prevented From Flying US Flag!

[SallyRand]

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"Vietnam vet threatened with legal action for flying Stars and Stripes outside his home

By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 9:30 PM on 23rd June 2011

A 77-year-old Army veteran is being threatened with legal action for flying the American flag in his front yard.

Fred Quigley, of Macedonia, Ohio, a retired Army chaplain and minister who served active duty during the Vietnam War, has been told his flag violates his homeowners association's rules on flagpoles.

As an alternative, the association offered to place the flag at the entrance of the development, but Mr Quigley refused.

'Principle and patriotism': Fred Quigley with the flagpole outside his home which the homeowners association says violates its rules

Mr Quigley said: 'It's the principle. It's about patriotism, and the soldiers I've had to hold as they were dying.

'It's just important to me to be bold with the flag.

'If they can dictate to me that I cannot fly an American flag in America, then, to me, the country is lost.'

Mr Quigley's lawyer Gerald Patronite said the association has no right to stop his client.

It's got to go: Joseph Migliorini, representing the association, says free-standing flagpoles are not allowed

It's got to go: Joseph Migliorini, representing the association, says free-standing flagpoles are not allowed

He cites a 2003 state statute that addresses the homeowner's rights in such a dispute.

'Essentially, no deed restriction or association can abridge this right to display the flag,' he told AOL Real Estate.

Mr Patronite said that the HOA's rules state that a flag can only be displayed if affixed to the home.

But doing so would mean Mr Quigley would have to put up a much smaller flag.
Defiant: If he can't fly the flag then the country 'is lost,' says Fred Quigley

Defiant: If he can't fly the flag then the country 'is lost,' says Fred Quigley

Mr Quigley's daughter, Karen Wilson, said that she doesn't understand how anyone could deny her father the right to raise the flag.

She said: 'It's a standard 15ft pole, with 3ft by 5ft flag.

'It's not outlandish, it's not over-the-top, and it fits in with the house.'

Joseph Migliorini, the representative for the homeowner's association and former mayor of Macedonia, which is between Cleveland and Akron, said he plans to take Quigley to court if the flagpole is not removed.

Mr Migliorini said: 'We just want the rules and regulations followed.

'We're not gonna have rogue homeowners that are going to just do what they want to do and not get approval.'
Acceptable: Flags that are affixed to the property are allowed under the homeowners association rules

Acceptable: Flags that are affixed to the property are allowed under the homeowners association rules

This is not the first time that homeowners have clashed with a homeowners association over the right to display the flag.

In Idaho, the dispute ended in a public apology from an association that prohibited flags in 'common areas.'

In that case, the 'Freedom to Display the American Flag Act' of 2005 was cited to uphold the homeowner's right.

On Wednesday, members of the local American Legion post joined Mr Quigley in a flag-raising ceremony in protest at the association's policy.

Mr Quigley said that he's been given until Monday to remove the flag, or legal action will be taken by the association.

'As a minister and a chaplain, I have fought for people,' Quigley said. 'Now I fight for myself.'

Bullshit, or what?

[GatorB]

It's not the USA it's the retarded Homeowner's Association. And while most ruels by HA are totally reatrded if you don't want to follow them don't live in an area covered by one.

[beerptrol]

Maybe you can email him a pic of a chick in an American flag bikini and tell him that is you and how Vietnam vets make your man clit hard

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Maybe you can email him a pic of a chick in an American flag bikini and tell him that is you and how Vietnam vets make your man clit hard

Oh zzzing

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by GatorB

It's not the USA it's the retarded Homeowner's Association. And while most ruels by HA are totally reatrded if you don't want to follow them don't live in an area covered by one.

The rules of all "Homeowner's Associations" are repugnant, essentially infringing and should be busted. A man's home is supposed to e his castle.

[charlie g]

Wow, someone should take up a collection for this vet to fight this in the courts. Looks like a perfect opportunity for someone to scam a few bucks from patriotic citizenry. Too bad we dont know anyone sleazy enough to capitalize on this situation

[Sly]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

The rules of all "Homeowner's Associations" are repugnant, essentially infringing and should be busted. A man's home is supposed to e his castle.

Nobody forced him to move into a neighborhood with a HOA.

Personally, I think they suck.

[tony286]

they arent saying to cant fly his flag. they are saying he cant do it from a flagpole. hoa are rough but he didnt have to move there if he didnt like the rules.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Maybe you can email him a pic of a chick in an American flag bikini and tell him that is you and how Vietnam vets make your man clit hard

[Kris]

if it has to be attached to the house, why doesn't he put the flagpole on his roof and raise the flag. that would surely piss HOA off more and force them to come to a resolution.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

The rules of all "Homeowner's Associations" are repugnant, essentially infringing and should be busted. A man's home is supposed to e his castle.

Bullshit. Without homeowners associations the neighborhood lowers itself to it's shittiest resident and what that resident does to his house. BECAUSE THIS IS AMERICA you can freely choose to live in a HOA neighborhood or not.

Just like you can freely pretend to be a woman, twisted fucking dildo that you are.

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[epitome]

Newsflash:

Before you purchase a house, by law you have to be provided with the bylaws and rules of the homeowners association (sometimes they are 100+ pages). You're provided a set number of days (also disclosed) to review the HOA docs and if you do not agree with anything, for any reason, you can cancel the purchase.

If the rule is made after you've purchased then that's because of the board that was voted in. HOA's are like Democracies. If you don't like the rules they're making you get together with everyone else to get them voted out.

It's certainly nothing to do with the USA.

Of course, everybody knows you're dumb, so I do not mind explaining it to you.

Nice fail at sensationalism.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Maybe you can email him a pic of a chick in an American flag bikini and tell him that is you and how Vietnam vets make your man clit hard

[baddog]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

The rules of all "Homeowner's Associations" are repugnant, essentially infringing and should be busted. A man's home is supposed to e his castle.

No one forces anyone to live in one.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by epitome

Of course, everybody knows you're dumb, so I do not mind explaining it to you.

Nice fail at sensationalism.

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[Rochard]

Originally Posted by GatorB

It's not the USA it's the retarded Homeowner's Association. And while most ruels by HA are totally reatrded if you don't want to follow them don't live in an area covered by one.

Exactly. And this is what makes America great. He can fly his fucking flag. But once he bought into a HOA, he must abide by their rules.

I fly my flag every morning. I'm in an HOA. I'm also very active in my HOA.

Our city had a law about flag poles only being able to reach a certain height. A local Vietnam Vet was cited - and a month later we were able to change the law.

This is exactly what makes America great.

[potter]

Yup, maybe if he didn't want to abide by the HOA rules - he shouldn't have bought into it.

[Kevin Marx]

Originally Posted by Kris

if it has to be attached to the house, why doesn't he put the flagpole on his roof and raise the flag. that would surely piss HOA off more and force them to come to a resolution.

I was thinking essentially the same thing. Why not just place the pole right next to the home and attach it with some brackets. Same pole, same height, same raising ability, now just within the HOA rules. Problem solved.

[cykoe6]

Fucking Homeowners Associations....... always run by vicious old busybodies just looking to flex their little bit of power. Of course if you don't like them, then don't move there.

[seeandsee]

i heard buliding organisations are even worst, you have to complai with their shity rules or you will get your ass kicked

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

The rules of all "Homeowner's Associations" are repugnant, essentially infringing and should be busted. A man's home is supposed to e his castle.

Like most corporations? That's what an HOA is, it's a corporation.... it has bi-laws, minutes, and even a board, just like a corporation, always has.

I hope you're not suggesting we bust business, screw with the free market, change how others choose to do business? Ouch....

Most seudo corporate guru's know this type of stuff... you must be the real deal to see straight through it.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Maybe you can email him a pic of a chick in an American flag bikini and tell him that is you and how Vietnam vets make your man clit hard