The most Free country in the WORLD!

[blackmonsters]

But 1 out of every 100 adults in America is currently locked in a cage.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2011061...ltaXNzaXNzaXA-

In 1980, according to the Sentencing Project, a Washington-based advocacy group, an estimated 41,000 people were in prison or jail for drug offenses, and by 2003, that population had grown to nearly a half-million. Now, some 2.3 million people - about 1 in every 100 U.S. adults - are incarcerated.

"The most free country in the world" = The biggest lie ever told.

[Coup]

Freedom and Authority will never co-exsist

[CurrentlySober]

i cant afford 'free'...

[BlackCrayon]

yeah but true freedom would be anarchy and then you would be in fear, at least most would and fear is a prison.

[Agent 488]

sad. thank god when society collapses most prisoners get freed.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yeah but true freedom would be anarchy and then you would be in fear, at least most would and fear is a prison.

Only literal/figurative children who need their mommies and daddies to keep them safe would be afraid to live in freedom.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

But 1 out of every 100 adults in America is currently locked in a cage.

1)true there are far too many people in jail for non-violent crime i.e. drug offenses.
2)true there are many many violent psychotics in jail for very good reason.
3)the prison business has been booming because it's one of those areas that can really weather a recession

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Coup

Only literal/figurative children who need their mommies and daddies to keep them safe would be afraid to live in freedom.

no, law and order is needed to keep violent psychos, rapists and thugs behind bars.
the wild and whacky world of mad max may sound like fun to many, but in reality this course only leads to further de-evolution.

freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose;)

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Caligari

no, law and order is needed to keep violent psychos, rapists and thugs behind bars.
the wild and whacky world of mad max may sound like fun to many, but in reality this course only leads to further de-evolution.

freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose;)

what's it like living in a world where rapists and psychos are lurking around every corner? Sounds like you're living in fear already, no freedom needed.

[grumpy]

i thought it was a poll or something but you believe USA is The most Free country in the WORLD?????? LOL

[Coup]

Originally Posted by grumpy

i thought it was a poll or something but you believe USA is The most Free country in the WORLD?????? LOL

Reading is Fundamental. Well, maybe not in your experience..

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Coup

what's it like living in a world where rapists and psychos are lurking around every corner? Sounds like you're living in fear already, no freedom needed.

nope, cuz they would be behind bars genius.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Caligari

nope, cuz they would be behind bars genius.

"cuz"

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Coup

Only literal/figurative children who need their mommies and daddies to keep them safe would be afraid to live in freedom.

right, so disabled people who have no means to protect themselves are just big babies i guess. you are clueless.

[Emil]

The USA isn't a free country now when the big banks own it.

l0l0l0l10l01l!!

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Coup

Freedom and Authority will never co-exsist

The freedom to take a shit is not revoked simply because authority requires you to
shit in a toilet.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Caligari

nope, cuz they would be behind bars genius.

that god for that though really, I'm glad they have them all behind bars so we can all sleep perfectly safe knowing crime has been eradicated thanks to the diligent efforts of authority with machine-like levels of competency.


Thanks big brother!


haha, how in the hell do you idiots even manage to breathe?

[Coup]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The freedom to take a shit is not revoked simply because authority requires you to
shit in a toilet.

But you have been stripped of the freedom to shit on the ground like humans have for tens of thousands of years.

so yes, you do lose freedom. you lose freedom with every law.

more authority = more laws = less freedom.
that is an inescapable fact.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Animals belong in cages.

[Caligari]

I will explain this once.

Humans are essentially untrustworthy, whether by irrational behavior or premeditative acts.

To advocate freedom without restriction for everyone to do what they will is naive at best, retarded at worst.

[Agent 488]

41. The word of Sin is Restriction. O man! refuse not thy wife, if she will! O lover, if thou wilt, depart! There is no bond that can unite the divided but love: all else is a curse. Accursed! Accursed be it to the aeons! Hell.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Animals belong in cages.

http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/...isoners_AC.pdf

Some animals

[Bladewire]

You feel lost without your computer, Ipod, Xbox, big screen, music, drugs or favorite food.

Now they facially recognized you and all your affiliations. They read your tweets, emails, likes and posts. They know what you want, and when to give it to you, so you stay pacified and they stay in power.



All message boards ban people. There should be no illusion to any of us that we are truly free in any capacity.

[seeandsee]

1 in 100 in jail, congrats democratcy for holding bad people in jail

[CaptainHowdy]

[L-Pink]

"Free" provided you stay between the lines. Speaking of lines, wish I had a couple.

[sosexysohot]

2.3 millions? Crazy number. I can't imagine the costs for keep those people locked.

Here in Brazil I think that we do not have jails to lock 10% of this...

Who is looking for freedom must come to Brazil.

[GetSCORECash]

Ask Paul Markham he told me.

[Dead]

The system designed to serve and protect became a business in which the means have surpassed what it was originally set up to uphold. Take a look at any rookie officer and you will see the desperate look of saving his job with pulling people over for a fucking seatbelt violation. If you have the time, go to the courthouse and fight said ticket. As you sit waiting for your justice to be heard, watch and listen to all the other cases in the room. Money drives this bitch, nothing more nothing less. and yes, I was able to beat the ticket with a simple cash donation to the court PA. Freedom was a nice dream, but not one you can afford here in the USofA.

[$5 submissions]

Blame drug laws for that.

If the government is serious about boosting the economy, how about relaxing drug laws and freeing up all that spending? Less spending means they can afford to lower taxes. Lower taxes to promote more business formation.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

right, so disabled people who have no means to protect themselves are just big babies i guess. you are clueless.

Disabled people generally have people around them to help them through life, no?

You don't need authority to be protected.. you never have. lol

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

1/2 the people in prison are not true criminals, but drug addicts that should be sent to a rehab like in Europe. Plus, there's a good percentage of people who are mentally ill, not criminals. Also, people are sent to jail in the US over non-payment of traffic tickets, fines, tax, etc.

Not true because people in prison are animals, and animals deserve to be in cages, you see..

[Martin]

Keeping people locked up in Jails is big business in the US.

[camperjohn64]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

1/2 the people in prison are not true criminals, but drug addicts that should be sent to a rehab like in Europe. Plus, there's a good percentage of people who are mentally ill, not criminals. Also, people are sent to jail in the US over non-payment of traffic tickets, fines, tax, etc.


In short, it's not the people but the system.

The system isa reflection of the system.

If they put drug addicts in jail for drug addtiction, then they should put fat people in jail for eating too much.

In American, that would be like 80%....

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Martin

Keeping people locked up in Jails is big business in the US.

Absolutely, our insane criminal sentencing policies have fucking nothing to do with justice and everything to do with corporate profits

[Coup]

How our society treats non-violent felons after they've paid their debt is even more fucking disgusting

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by camperjohn64

The system isa reflection of the system.

no

The system is a reflection of what we, as a society, will allow.

no more

no less

[camperjohn64]

Originally Posted by camperjohn64

The system is a reflection of the system.

I meant to say "The system is a reflection of the people".

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Coup

Disabled people generally have people around them to help them through life, no?

You don't need authority to be protected.. you never have. lol

many do not. regardless what you would see is a bunch of gangs both protecting and taking advantage of other groups, excersizing their own brand of justice and in the end, it will still be the strong having authority over the weak.

[Barry-xlovecam]

NASDAQ NMS:CSCQ
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The Prison-Industrial Complex ...

Incarceration is big business now ...

[Coup]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

many do not. regardless what you would see is a bunch of gangs both protecting and taking advantage of other groups, excersizing their own brand of justice and in the end, it will still be the strong having authority over the weak.

So basically not much of a change, then...

[Rochard]

It's a pretty simple concept really - violate the rules of society, go to prison.

Even for the stupid shit, drug crimes, fuck it - send 'em to jail.

I have a long list of traffic violations. Yet ironically I still have my driver's license. My last ticket was $800, exceeding 100 mph. Pay a fine, my insurance goes up a little, whatever. There's no fucking punishment so I drive however I want.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Rochard

It's a pretty simple concept really - violate the rules of society, go to prison.

Even for the stupid shit, drug crimes, fuck it - send 'em to jail.

And you like paying high taxes to lock up people for having weed?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

1/2 the people in prison are not true criminals, but drug addicts that should be sent to a rehab like in Europe

Most of them are not drug addicts. A huge amount of them are people who like to party...got busted with some pot or coke or selling some pot or coke.

Let's say you could get a good deal on a large amount of pot that would be much cheaper to buy a big amount and have it for a while instead of buying it in expensive small increments. Or you bought an ounce of coke for $700 instead of buying it for $100 a gram.

And then as you're out partying on a Friday night you get pulled over by a cop and they find your ounce.

Now you're going to prison.

You're not a drug addict. You're not a criminal. You just wanted to party and maybe get laid on a Friday night. But the govt. has other plans and need more prisoners to feed their money making prison machine.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Most of them are not drug addicts. A huge amount of them are people who like to party...got busted with some pot or coke or selling some pot or coke.

Let's say you could get a good deal on a large amount of pot that would be much cheaper to buy a big amount and have it for a while instead of buying it in expensive small increments. Or you bought an ounce of coke for $700 instead of buying it for $100 a gram.

And then as you're out partying on a Friday night you get pulled over by a cop and they find your ounce.

Now you're going to prison.

You're not a drug addict. You're not a criminal. You just wanted to party and maybe get laid on a Friday night. But the govt. has other plans and need more prisoners to feed their money making prison machine.

The majority of druggies are criminals...other than just using drugs...as they cannot get or keep jobs because of their use of drugs...thus they steal to survive and purchase their drugs.

When police take a user off of the street they view it as having removed a thief from the streets.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by theking

The majority of druggies are criminals...other than just using drugs...as they cannot get or keep jobs because of their use of drugs...thus they steal to survive and purchase their drugs.

When police take a user off of the street they view it as having removed a thief from the streets.

That's total horseshit.

I'm not a criminal. Two of my buddies who are cops and partied with me are not criminals. All of my friends are not criminals. My mother (loves to smoke pot) is not a criminal.

It amazes me sometimes what people think. There are millions and millions of people who like to party on the weekend and do recreational drugs. I'm not sure how you think that people who party can't keep a job. lol

You're talking about drug ADDICTS. Not pot smokers and guys snorting a line. And when you reference drug addiction you should keep in mind that most people who are addicted to drugs are addicted to PRESCRIPTION drugs.

Also keep in mind that prescription drug overdose deaths are more than heroin, cocaine, opium, crack, meth, and every other recreational drug COMBINED each year.

The real criminals are the govt. holding hands with the pharmaceutical companies in my opinion.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That's total horseshit.

I'm not a criminal. Two of my buddies who are cops and partied with me are not criminals. All of my friends are not criminals. My mother (loves to smoke pot) is not a criminal.

It amazes me sometimes what people think. There are millions and millions of people who like to party on the weekend and do recreational drugs. I'm not sure how you think that people who party can't keep a job. lol

You're talking about drug ADDICTS. Not pot smokers and guys snorting a line. And when you reference drug addiction you should keep in mind that most people who are addicted to drugs are addicted to PRESCRIPTION drugs.

Also keep in mind that prescription drug overdose deaths are more than heroin, cocaine, opium, crack, meth, and every other recreational drug COMBINED each year.

The real criminals are the govt. holding hands with the pharmaceutical companies in my opinion.

Stats show differently. The majority of employers do drug testing thus the majority of users cannot even get a job let alone keep the job. I am aware that some users are smart enough in their use of drugs to stay under the radar and are not thieves...but stats show the majority are dregs on society. I also am aware that some people that are addicted have become addicted due to the use of prescription drugs.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by theking

Stats show differently. The majority of employers do drug testing thus the majority of users cannot even get a job let alone keep the job. I am aware that some users are smart enough in their use of drugs to stay under the radar and are not thieves...but stats show the majority are dregs on society. I also am aware that some people that are addicted have become addicted due to the use of prescription drugs.

What stats are you reading bro? I'm telling you straight up that people in all levels of society do recreational drugs and they PAY for them. It's BILLIONS of dollars spent on drugs by the American people.

Folks like to get high. And have been doing so since the dawn of man. Whether it was eating peyote or opium poppies or just getting drunk.

I think you need to get out of the house a bit and come out in the real world. The U.S. is the world's largest consumer of drugs...both legal and illegal. And no govt. or law is gonna change that. People will do as they please. It's a little thing in the American people called "Freedom". And our govt. is definitely trying to take that away from us.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Robbie

What stats are you reading bro? I'm telling you straight up that people in all levels of society do recreational drugs and they PAY for them. It's BILLIONS of dollars spent on drugs by the American people.

Folks like to get high. And have been doing so since the dawn of man. Whether it was eating peyote or opium poppies or just getting drunk.

I think you need to get out of the house a bit and come out in the real world. The U.S. is the world's largest consumer of drugs...both legal and illegal. And no govt. or law is gonna change that. People will do as they please. It's a little thing in the American people called "Freedom". And our govt. is definitely trying to take that away from us.

I am fully aware of what our society has become since drugs hit the scene big time during the sixties.

[harvey]

I mean.... fiddy freedom fighters!