Ahahahahah TheDemon owned again trying to fiddle his way out of the argument.

Haha moe still getting his ass kicked on a daily basis because he's incompetent.

haaretz is a left wing (pro muslim) newspaper, no wonder smokey likes it lol

cmon now.. true there is no "pope" but even you must admit they are WIDELY known as the top religious figures in the jewish community , correct or incorrect ?

exactly , so before you go shouting "ANTI_SEMITE" and NEO-NAZI you should ask someone in a debate type retort , correct or incorrect ?

i could say the same thing about you.. the fact is i made an opinion based statement to begin with and you jumped down my throat about it instead of simply discussing it. you shot it right down saying LIE when infact it was the truth as widely known, not only did i post fact i posted fact from YOUR OWN sources , not a biased outside source.

instead of debating it , you wrote it off as anti-semitic and neo-nazi when infact it was quite the opposite .

i am stubborn , but not a rock, i am always open to change.. you must admit religion is a bit of a handicap in being open to change , your opinion is guided by faith and facts you cant change , mine is not.

you made it a contest , you called it LIES instead of discussing the facts behind the statement.. so in your mind , after i proved my facts you "lost". You may feel you lost , but i didn't "win" unless i changed your mind.

i will try to be more "moveable" in my responses :)

I have honestly never met a Jew. Only Kyle from South Park. :jerkoff

Haha duh

i am not jewish, i have no idea your hierarchy, they are touted by jews on the top jewish website and major news sites as leading rabbis. perhaps you should focus your anger on the jewish community falsely claiming who their leaders are.. instead of me posting what your own leaders are telling the world.. but apparently some guy on gfy says is not true.





you had a point ?

A Serious Man - Goy's Teeth scene
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YUTyEEiulQk (embedding disabled)

why because muslims aren't racist ? u fail

top religious muslims are just as racist as top jews from where i sit. i bet you can't say the same can you lol... must suck in these situations being a racist haha

so just to make sure we are clear. you disagree with them correct or incorrect ?

You think non jews are just as clean as jews correct or incorrect ?

You think the torah is not racist correct or incorrect ?

You think the top rabbi's in israel do not represent judaism or speak for jews correct or incorrect ?

Jezuz, will it go to a page #3? This thread needs Jewish girl pic:

http://www.hotncurrent.com/wp-conten...ie-portman.jpg

ok you lose the bet, what do I win?

As a Jew who is educated in his religion, they do not speak for everybody and I think they're as dumb as Moe.

There's no difference between the two. I think we do a better job of keeping our religion going or as gonzo said, adapting, but in the grand scheme of things, ours is just one path to god, not THE path to god.

Taken in proper context with the explanations given by the Tanaim, correct.

Already addressed.

oy vey ......

First of all, I never said they were "LIES". It was a comprehensive answer to your first post regarding the quote that you put up, and it explained in depth.



Second, the post that you are responding to was made moeloubani.... Who was "spiking the ball" when I admitted that I was wrong about something that you had posted. Kind of funny really. He was dancing a juvenile victory dance to take credit for a point that YOU had made rather than himself, and in the meantime I was at least big enough to say that I was wrong about those dumb Rabbi's in the news story.



.:2 cents::)


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If you were Jewish, you would know that there are no "Top" anything. A news agency with a political agenda, (any agenda or new agency you wish to pick), can frame an article how they like, but as I have said many times in this thread, one of the abiding aspects of Judaism is that all are encouraged to constantly discuss, argue, hold opinions on, and sometimes vehemently disagree with, other Jews about the meanings of texts, the tenants of the Talmud, and the traditions themselves, and to promote the evolution of Judaism over time

This is why holding on to our history so fiercely is held to be so important, since with the changing of pretty much everything else over time, knowing our history is the only thing that ensures that we do not completely lose our identity as a people. (Not race, but people, look at the massive influx of black Ethiopian Jews into Israel in the 80s and 90s).

And yet again, having said all that, there are NO TOP RABBI's in Judaism, and even widely recognized and respected ones don't expect anyone to take their opinions as an edict, and are always argued with, and their thoughts pulled apart and debated.


.:2 cents:

This. It's humorous when someone tries to be an expert in something outside his scope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Rabbi

That shows that Judaism does clearly have 'top Rabbis'.

You have no idea what you're talking about Bonzo. How pathetic.

With every new word you say you prove more and more that you're just another goyim.

You never answered my question about how it feels to be a goy?

Isn't it, TheDemon? Like when you agree with Bonzo and then both of you are proven wrong? Is that what you mean? You're just another goyim just like he is, you have no idea about true Judaism, goy.

Damn right I was spiking the ball. It isn't YOU who decides what is Jewish and what isn't, it is those top Rabbis. YOU don't just decide something is Jewish and ignore what they say, otherwise we're all Jewish because I say so. Face it dude, you're just another goyim.

My god, you are a moron. Did you even bother to read the article or did you link to it? Once again, you are a stupid human being.

100 Jewish girls :thumbsup

You must not make your brother pay interest, interest on money, interest on food, interest on anything on which one may claim interest. You may make a foreigner [Gentile] pay interest but your brother [fellow Jew] you must not make pay interest.

Deuteronomy 23: 19-20 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...20&version=NIV

haha

bibles and talmud are all full of the SAME OLD SHIT, as a non jew, just READING the Torah means I deserve death!

lol they spin it how they want, but those of us who actually read it, know thats its all about HATE always has been, religion makes people hate each other, thats all its for.

"R. Johanan said: A heathen who studies the Torah deserves death, for it is written,"

lol

"a heathen who looks into the Law (the Torah, not the Talmud) should be guilty of death."

noooooo they never talk about killing non jews!

HOLD THE HEATHEN HAMMER HIGH. PAGAN PRIDE!!!!



heres another gem:

Kethuboth 11b, concerning betrothals. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this, it is as if one puts the finger into the eye."

as a true heathen,.... i say....its all twisted shit (bibles, torah/talmud, koran) and anyone who believes any of it in fact, is a disgrace to mankinds intelligence. Pile the books and burn them.

huh .. this is what you said





kind of simplistic to charcterize them as "dumb rabbi's in the news story". Thats like calling the pope a "dumb priest in a news story".

lets call them what they are known as by the general public .. top israeli rabbi's in charge of the country that is often referred to as the jewish homeland, some of the most respected jewish figures in israel and the world

No, that's not like calling the pope anything. The pope is the undisputed leader of his faith, those Rabbis aren't.

In charge of the country? You DO realize that Israel is secular, right?

TheDemon showing his lack of knowledge yet again.

How can Israel be secular if they refuse to negotiate without the precondition that they are recognized as a Jewish state? They have said it time and time again, Israel is a Jewish state.

Secular? I think you need to look up the meaning of the word, you goy.

Moe proving once again that he's the epitome of incompetence and why he gets his ass kicked here every day. Well, this is definitely entertaining for the forum so I'll try to elaborate and use simple words so that a man of your incredibly low IQ can understand. If Israel was run by Rabbis (it's not, hence prime ministers exist), they would be following the law of the land (or torah in this case). Since that isn't anywhere near reality right now, Israel is not a religious state, but a secular state with religion in the background. Keep trying though, it's amusing:1orglaugh

Israel is a Jewish state. Their basis for the entire nation is religious. Everyone knows that. Their flag has a religious symbol on it. Canada on the other hand, a secular state, does not link itself with any religion. Do you see the difference, goy?

Stop being such a goyim, you should know this, goy.

Poor guy, so his last resort is to go with "everyone knows". Everyone also knows how to differentiate between a religious state (IE following religious doctrine), and a secular state (IE following the laws of man). My god, this is amusing.

Jamal Zahalka, PhD, a member of the Israeli Knesset (Balad Party - Arab), in a Feb. 28, 2007 interview posted on Z-Net online political magazine titled "A State of all its Citizens," said:

"The state should be the state of all its citizens, in equality. That’s modern democracy, based on the equal human being, not the hierarchical human being. This is so important that no one in Israeli politics can ignore it. It explores the real nature of the Israeli state. Not just equality between Jews and Arabs, but the very nature of the state. Israel is not a secular state – it has not even reached the point of separation of religion and state. You can’t separate religion and state so long as the state is defined as a Jewish state. To come to the point of separation of religion and state, the state should be the state of all its citizens."

:thumbsup

also the hexagram was used by heathens before they started using it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagram its been used by many religion including christians, like the pentagram, pagans were using it for magick long before state of isreal. its similar to how nazis used the ancient "swastika" and people think its symbol of nazis. it is not.

Well you don't need to do anything really to know. You just need to have eyes and half a brain and you can recognize Israel is a Jewish state. Their flag, what they say about their own country, and pretend-Jews like you trying to defend them.

What a goy! You are just like the worst of the worst of the goyim, TheDemon!

You said they were a religious state. Backpeddling ftw!:1orglaugh

Yes I did say they are a religious state. Is Judaism not a religion to you?

Man you're more of a goyim than I thought!

just call your dick Moses, and watch those legs magicly spread apart

Their laws are predominantly secular. Man this is TOO easy:)

Spermgonzo!!! ROFLLLLLLLLL

Doesn't surprise me that you're a racist bigot btw... fucking muppet

You just proved the person's point that you think is an idiot.

Where was the racism and bigotry? I think you just proved MY point, jackass:)

Jesus Christ. 7,011 about jews and republicans. What does this guy do all day besides gfy? This has to be someone's "other" nick to post on these two topics. just like that gideongallery character.

All day? You mean 7,000 posts in the past 8 years? Holy shit, less than 1,000 posts a year, I must spend my entire day on GFY. Moron ROFL:1orglaugh

since you made sure to word that using "bomber" - lets narrow that down to jewish "terrosist" - to which there are plenty, but heres a recent one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaakov_Teitel

and another

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein -perpetrated the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre in the city of Hebron, killing 29 Muslims at prayer there and wounding another 125.

as i said, all religious are the same, they will kill in the name of god.