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SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 09:40 AM

you guys are seriously going to argue that gentiles are clean and the torah makes no mention of them ? hahaha

sorry my bad the torah clearly says everyone is equal , gentiles are cool and everyone should have a great big party.

sperbonzo · 05-17-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

"To beChrgin with, every Gentile child, so soon as born, was to be regarded as unclean."

The Gentiles should, as far as possible, be altogether avoided, except in cases of necessity or for the sake of business. They and theirs were defiled; their houses unclean, as containing idols or things dedicated to idols. Their feasts and their joyous occasions were polluted by idolatry. You could not leave the room if a Gentile was in it because he might, carelessly or on purpose, defile the wine or food on the table, or the oil and wheat in the cupboard.

various writings from 2000 years ago by certain members of a religion (NOT from the Torah, OR the Talmud, by the way), can be quoted for EVERY religion, including Christianity, to make people think that this is what the religion is all about. Not only are these archaic writings of individuals, not accepted rules, but also Jews have always shown their religion to be one that is ALWAYS evolving, not only in the reform movement, but in the Conservative and even the Orthodox sects. Jews believe in constant discussion, debate and evolution of their faith.

Again, I know that anti-semite websites LOVE to quote this stuff, but they refuse to look at the actual facts of what Jews believe and how the religion works and constantly changes. (since it would not serve their agenda to do so, obviously)

Again, your post comes from an ignorant place.

Again, go ask a Rabbi, don't rely on neo-nazi anti-semite websites.

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The Demon · 05-17-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

so you are saying the torah is a lie and contains no facts about jews ?

That's what you got from my post? I never knew middle aged people can be this stupid. Then again, it's a trend on this forum.

Edit: thanks for the logical post gonzo but this guy is just too dumb.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 09:45 AM

``it is forbidden a Jew to unite himself to Gentiles, because they are suspected of shedding blood, and he may not join himself with them in the way; if he meets a Gentile in the way, he causes him to turn to the right hand; if they ascend by an ascent, or descend by a descent, the Israelite may not be below, and the Gentile above: but the Israelite must be above, and the Gentile below, lest he should fall upon him and kill him; and he may not go even with (or along side by him) lest he break his skull.''

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

various writings from 2000 years ago by certain members of a religion (NOT from the Torah, OR the Talmud, by the way), can be quoted for EVERY religion, including Christianity
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pay close attention to where i said "Racism is built into their religion.( like most religions )"

notice how i said MOST not ALL as you have incorrectly stated..

all religions that are racist are equally stupid though , you have that part right

sperbonzo · 05-17-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

``it is forbidden a Jew to unite himself to Gentiles, because they are suspected of shedding blood, and he may not join himself with them in the way; if he meets a Gentile in the way, he causes him to turn to the right hand; if they ascend by an ascent, or descend by a descent, the Israelite may not be below, and the Gentile above: but the Israelite must be above, and the Gentile below, lest he should fall upon him and kill him; and he may not go even with (or along side by him) lest he break his skull.''

And again, various writings from 2000 years ago by certain members of a religion (NOT from the Torah, OR the Talmud, by the way), can be quoted for EVERY religion, including Christianity, to make people think that this is what the religion is all about. Not only are these archaic writings of individuals, not accepted rules, but also Jews have always shown their religion to be one that is ALWAYS evolving, not only in the reform movement, but in the Conservative and even the Orthodox sects. Jews believe in constant discussion, debate and evolution of their faith.

Again, I know that anti-semite websites LOVE to quote this stuff, but they refuse to look at the actual facts of what Jews believe and how the religion works and constantly changes. (since it would not serve their agenda to do so, obviously)

Again, your post comes from an ignorant place.

Again, go ask a Rabbi, don't rely on neo-nazi anti-semite websites.

You won't find one SINGLE Rabbi that believes in, or teaches, the stuff you are quoting, not even from the Hasidim, (who I personally find kind of wacky). Those articles were universally rejected by Jews a long long time ago, as part of the evolution of the religion.

How can you not understand this? Are you that blinded by your own clinging to a certain world view that no reality can shake it?

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The Demon · 05-17-2011, 09:53 AM

As usual, qft. Good post

moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 09:53 AM

Some quotes from the Talmud, a Jewish book kept up to date by Rabbis, I was just told to look in the Talmud by a Rabbi and shown links to these sites:

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-Abhodah Zarah, 22b: "Whу аrе thе Goim grimy? Bесаυѕе thеу wеrе nοt bestow аt Mount Sinai . Fοr whеn thе serpent entered іntο Eve hе infused hеr wіth uncleanness. Bυt thе Jews wеrе cleansed frοm thіѕ whеn thеу stood οn Mount Sinai; thе Goim, though, whο wеrе nοt οn Mount Sinai wеrе nοt cleansed

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Baba Mezia, 114b "Thе Jews аrе called human beings, bυt thе non-Jews аrе nοt humans. Thеу аrе beasts."

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Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b: "Thе souls οf non-Jews come frοm diverse spirits аnd аrе called pigs."

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"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his animals had died."" TALMUD: Jore Dea 377.

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"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." TALMUD: Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425.

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"Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." TALMUD: Bammidber raba c 21 & jalkut 772.

Just saying, it does seem like the Jews think non-Jews are dirty.

They also say it is okay to kill a non-Jew, lie to a non-Jew, steal and cheat a non-Jew - this could be why people have hated them so much throughout history. It is because they hate people to start, de facto, if they are a non-Jew.

I have nothing against Jews, but I think that anyone who believes that they are any better or any different than anyone else because they are Jewish is an idiot, a racist, a bigot and a fool. People like bonzo and TheDemon are just two idiots in that bunch, two guys who think they are 'chosen' by ANY definition of the word and are clearly mistaken as proven obvious by their lack of intelligence.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Again, I know that anti-semite websites LOVE to quote this stuff,

haaretz.com

those guys are raging anti-semites i suppose ?

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Again, your post comes from an ignorant place.

i posted my opinion and backed it up with cold hard facts from a jewish website

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Again, go ask a Rabbi, don't rely on neo-nazi anti-semite websites.

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so the leading jewish website on the internet is "neo-nazi" and anti-semitic ? lol

you are funny.

you should be ashamed of yourself throwing out anti-semitic claims like they were rice at a wedding. I would bet your ancestors would be ashamed at the filth and hatred coming from your mouth.n I don't hate you or jews. You should learn to have a proper discussion instead of whipping yourself into a hatred filled frenzy about it.

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 09:59 AM

Moe, you're a stupid sand hahahahahaha who amuses us with his towelhead rhetoric. Gonzo and I just spent an hour explaining how Jews don't think theyre better. Yet you show your stupidity once again by claiming we said the opposite. Good show.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

You won't find one SINGLE Rabbi that believes in, or teaches, the stuff you are quoting, not even from the Hasidim, (who I personally find kind of wacky). Those articles were universally rejected by Jews a long long time ago, as part of the evolution of the religion.
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Top rabbis move to forbid renting homes to Arabs, say 'racism originated in the Torah'
Dozens of Israel's municipal chief rabbis signed on to the ruling, which comes just months after the chief rabbi of Safed initiated a call urging Jews to refrain from renting or selling apartments to non-Jews.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national...torah-1.329327

pay close attention to the website name HAARETZ , pay close attention to article title
RACISM ORIGINATED IN THE TORAH

pay close attention to the words "TOP RABBIS"

pay close attention to "Dozens of Israel's municipal chief rabbis signed on to the ruling"

pay close attention to the DATE of the article..

sperbonzo · 05-17-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You should learn to have a proper discussion instead of whipping yourself into a hatred filled frenzy about it.

Ok, now THAT was Funny. Sincerely thank you for that! LMAO!!

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moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Top rabbis move to forbid renting homes to Arabs, say 'racism originated in the Torah'
Dozens of Israel's municipal chief rabbis signed on to the ruling, which comes just months after the chief rabbi of Safed initiated a call urging Jews to refrain from renting or selling apartments to non-Jews.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national...torah-1.329327

pay close attention to the website name HAARETZ , pay close attention to article title
RACISM ORIGINATED IN THE TORAH

pay close attention to the words "TOP RABBIS"

pay close attention to the DATE of the article..

Ouchh looks like BONZO and DEMON got owned yet AGAIN.

You two are making Jews look bad. If I was a Jew I'd pretend I didn't know you two, I'd say look at those two Goyim pretending they're Jewish.

So many Jews are intelligent and can do so much, what happened to you two losers??

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:03 AM

Oh the irony of smokeys statement lol

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:04 AM

Moe, you've been making Muslims look bad for years, thanks for providing years of entertainment. You teach kids to stay in school.

moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Oh the irony of smokeys statement lol

Have nothing to say for yourself, goy?? Can only attack other people without coming up with something intelligent to say, goy?? You two are such goyim it disgusts me and I'm not even Jewish!

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Moe, you've been making Muslims look bad for years, thanks for providing years of entertainment. You teach kids to stay in school.

Not a Muslim, have said that before, but I figured a goy like you would need to hear it another time. Do your parents know you two pretend to be Jewish, goyim??

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:04 AM

so your argument is i wont find one single rabbi and i found dozens of the top rabbis in the home of the jews

you argue the website is anti-semitic and neo-nazi even though it is the top jewish website in the world.

you argue the torah says everyone is equal , even though the top rabbi's in israel say RACISM ORIGINATED IN THE TORAH

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Have nothing to say for yourself, goy?? Can only attack other people without coming up with something intelligent to say, goy?? You two are such goyim it disgusts me and I'm not even Jewish!

And the self pwnage continues. Priceless

sperbonzo · 05-17-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Top rabbis move to forbid renting homes to Arabs, say 'racism originated in the Torah'
Dozens of Israel's municipal chief rabbis signed on to the ruling, which comes just months after the chief rabbi of Safed initiated a call urging Jews to refrain from renting or selling apartments to non-Jews.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national...torah-1.329327

pay close attention to the website name HAARETZ , pay close attention to article title
RACISM ORIGINATED IN THE TORAH

pay close attention to the words "TOP RABBIS"

pay close attention to "Dozens of Israel's municipal chief rabbis signed on to the ruling"

pay close attention to the DATE of the article..

Fair enough.... Apparently there are some very screwed up Rabbi's out there. I'm ashamed of them, and my (Conservative) Rabbi would be ashamed also.

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moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Fair enough.... Apparently there are some very screwed up Rabbi's out there. I'm ashamed of them, and my (Conservative) Rabbi would be ashamed also.

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Ohhhhhhhhhhh snnnnnnaaaaapppppppppp owwwnnnnnnneeeeddddd.

And it's not the Rabbis. They are your top religious leaders stating that the entire religion is based on racism. Judaism = racism. Ouch.

Looks like you are just another one of the goyim to those guys bonzo.

How does it feel to be one of us goyim??

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Fair enough.... Apparently there are some very screwed up Rabbi's out there. I'm ashamed of them, and my (Conservative) Rabbi would be ashamed also.

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those are the leading rabbi's in israel.. the people who speak for jews..

thank you for an honest retort though , as i said before i don't hate jews , i hate racists, most hardcore religious people are racist because most religions are based on racism/hatred, they are also based on love/equality , some people focus on the good , some the bad.. i love faith , i wish i could have more faith. i respect faith, i respect religion, i dont respect racists or racism.

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:12 AM

They don't speak for Jews they just pretend they do.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:13 AM

the exit door is over there "demon" heh

jimmycooper · 05-17-2011, 10:15 AM

Great movie. Totally forgot Billy Zane was in it. He's a cool guy.

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

the exit door is over there "demon" heh

I know but making you look dumb is just too much fun.

moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 10:17 AM

<3 SmokeyTheBear

sperbonzo · 05-17-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Ohhhhhhhhhhh snnnnnnaaaaapppppppppp owwwnnnnnnneeeeddddd.

And it's not the Rabbis. They are your top religious leaders stating that the entire religion is based on racism. Judaism = racism. Ouch.

Looks like you are just another one of the goyim to those guys bonzo.

How does it feel to be one of us goyim??

There is no such thing as a "Top religious leader" in Judaism, every opinion is open to debate and development within the community..... No one is held to some kind of unchanging dogma, the conversation is forever ongoing....

and I thought the point of this discussion was an adult debate, not some high-school type locker room shout-down.

From the tone of your post I would have to assume that you would never change your mind or admit you are wrong in ANY debate. What's the point in discussion if your objective is "winning" rather than learning and expanding?

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SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

They don't speak for Jews they just pretend they do.

well the people who "pretend" they speak for jews "worlds top rabbis" agree they are racists and the torah is racist. i understand the true speaker of the jews is on gfy.com and telling me that his opinion is more important than the top jewish figures

i just find it a bit strange ok..

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

well the people who "pretend" they speak for jews "worlds top rabbis" agree they are racists and the torah is racist. i understand the true speaker of the jews is on gfy.com and telling me that his opinion is more important than the top jewish figures

i just find it a bit strange ok..

There are a lot of rabbis that represent the Jewish people. The ones you mentioned are a minority, thanks for proving my point.

moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

There is no such thing as a "Top religious leader" in Judaism, every opinion is open to debate and development within the community..... No one is held to some kind of unchanging dogma, the conversation is forever ongoing....

and I thought the point of this discussion was an adult debate, not some high-school type locker room shout-down.

From the tone of your post I would have to assume that you would never change your mind or admit you are wrong in ANY debate. What's the point in discussion if your objective is "winning" rather than learning and expanding?

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Of course I would change my mind.

If you showed me that the Torah (the holy book of all Judaism) wasn't based on religion, I would agree that Judaism isn't a racist/bigoted religion.

My objective isn't winning, it's exactly what you said it is, to learn things.

But now let's reverse the question. You were clearly shown top Rabbis saying that the Torah is racist. All of Judaism is built on the Torah. And yet you still claim that Judaism isn't racist. Who doesn't want to change their point of view again? Who doesn't want to learn again?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

And you never answered my question, how does it feel to be a goyim??

moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

There are a lot of rabbis that represent the Jewish people. The ones you mentioned are a minority, thanks for proving my point.

Ahahahahah TheDemon owned again trying to fiddle his way out of the argument.

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:23 AM

Haha moe still getting his ass kicked on a daily basis because he's incompetent.

Oracle Porn · 05-17-2011, 10:27 AM

haaretz is a left wing (pro muslim) newspaper, no wonder smokey likes it lol

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

There is no such thing as a "Top religious leader" in Judaism, every opinion is open to debate and development within the community..... No one is held to some kind of unchanging dogma, the conversation is forever ongoing....

cmon now.. true there is no "pope" but even you must admit they are WIDELY known as the top religious figures in the jewish community , correct or incorrect ?

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

and I thought the point of this discussion was an adult debate, not some high-school type locker room shout-down.

exactly , so before you go shouting "ANTI_SEMITE" and NEO-NAZI you should ask someone in a debate type retort , correct or incorrect ?

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

From the tone of your post I would have to assume that you would never change your mind or admit you are wrong in ANY debate.

i could say the same thing about you.. the fact is i made an opinion based statement to begin with and you jumped down my throat about it instead of simply discussing it. you shot it right down saying LIE when infact it was the truth as widely known, not only did i post fact i posted fact from YOUR OWN sources , not a biased outside source.

instead of debating it , you wrote it off as anti-semitic and neo-nazi when infact it was quite the opposite .

i am stubborn , but not a rock, i am always open to change.. you must admit religion is a bit of a handicap in being open to change , your opinion is guided by faith and facts you cant change , mine is not.

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What's the point in discussion if your objective is "winning" rather than learning and expanding?

you made it a contest , you called it LIES instead of discussing the facts behind the statement.. so in your mind , after i proved my facts you "lost". You may feel you lost , but i didn't "win" unless i changed your mind.

i will try to be more "moveable" in my responses

marlboroack · 05-17-2011, 10:29 AM

I have honestly never met a Jew. Only Kyle from South Park.

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

haaretz is a left wing (pro muslim) newspaper, no wonder smokey likes it lol

Haha duh

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

There are a lot of rabbis that represent the Jewish people. The ones you mentioned are a minority

i am not jewish, i have no idea your hierarchy, they are touted by jews on the top jewish website and major news sites as leading rabbis. perhaps you should focus your anger on the jewish community falsely claiming who their leaders are.. instead of me posting what your own leaders are telling the world.. but apparently some guy on gfy says is not true.

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Originally Posted by The Demon

thanks for proving my point.

you had a point ?

jimmycooper · 05-17-2011, 10:34 AM

A Serious Man - Goy's Teeth scene
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YUTyEEiulQk (embedding disabled)

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

haaretz is a left wing (pro muslim) newspaper, no wonder smokey likes it lol

why because muslims aren't racist ? u fail

top religious muslims are just as racist as top jews from where i sit. i bet you can't say the same can you lol... must suck in these situations being a racist haha

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

The ones you mentioned are a minority

so just to make sure we are clear. you disagree with them correct or incorrect ?

You think non jews are just as clean as jews correct or incorrect ?

You think the torah is not racist correct or incorrect ?

You think the top rabbi's in israel do not represent judaism or speak for jews correct or incorrect ?

Sid70 · 05-17-2011, 10:53 AM

Jezuz, will it go to a page #3? This thread needs Jewish girl pic:

Oracle Porn · 05-17-2011, 10:55 AM

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i bet you can't say the same can you lol...

ok you lose the bet, what do I win?

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 11:09 AM

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so just to make sure we are clear. you disagree with them correct or incorrect ?

As a Jew who is educated in his religion, they do not speak for everybody and I think they're as dumb as Moe.

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You think non jews are just as clean as jews correct or incorrect ?

There's no difference between the two. I think we do a better job of keeping our religion going or as gonzo said, adapting, but in the grand scheme of things, ours is just one path to god, not THE path to god.

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You think the torah is not racist correct or incorrect ?

Taken in proper context with the explanations given by the Tanaim, correct.

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You think the top rabbi's in israel do not represent judaism or speak for jews correct or incorrect ?

Already addressed.

O MARINA · 05-17-2011, 11:17 AM

oy vey ......

sperbonzo · 05-17-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

you made it a contest , you called it LIES instead of discussing the facts behind the statement..

First of all, I never said they were "LIES". It was a comprehensive answer to your first post regarding the quote that you put up, and it explained in depth.

Second, the post that you are responding to was made moeloubani.... Who was "spiking the ball" when I admitted that I was wrong about something that you had posted. Kind of funny really. He was dancing a juvenile victory dance to take credit for a point that YOU had made rather than himself, and in the meantime I was at least big enough to say that I was wrong about those dumb Rabbi's in the news story.

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sperbonzo · 05-17-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You think the top rabbi's in israel do not represent judaism or speak for jews correct or incorrect ?

If you were Jewish, you would know that there are no "Top" anything. A news agency with a political agenda, (any agenda or new agency you wish to pick), can frame an article how they like, but as I have said many times in this thread, one of the abiding aspects of Judaism is that all are encouraged to constantly discuss, argue, hold opinions on, and sometimes vehemently disagree with, other Jews about the meanings of texts, the tenants of the Talmud, and the traditions themselves, and to promote the evolution of Judaism over time

This is why holding on to our history so fiercely is held to be so important, since with the changing of pretty much everything else over time, knowing our history is the only thing that ensures that we do not completely lose our identity as a people. (Not race, but people, look at the massive influx of black Ethiopian Jews into Israel in the 80s and 90s).

And yet again, having said all that, there are NO TOP RABBI's in Judaism, and even widely recognized and respected ones don't expect anyone to take their opinions as an edict, and are always argued with, and their thoughts pulled apart and debated.

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The Demon · 05-17-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

If you were Jewish, you would know that there are no "Top" anything. A news agency with a political agenda, (any agenda or new agency you wish to pick), can frame an article how they like, but as I have said many times in this thread, one of the abiding aspects of Judaism is that all are encouraged to constantly discuss, argue, hold opinions on, and sometimes vehemently disagree with, other Jews about the meanings of texts, the tenants of the Talmud, and the traditions themselves, and to promote the evolution of Judaism over time

This is why holding on to our history so fiercely is held to be so important, since with the changing of pretty much everything else over time, knowing our history is the only thing that ensures that we do not completely lose our identity as a people. (Not race, but people, look at the massive influx of black Ethiopian Jews into Israel in the 80s and 90s).

And yet again, having said all that, there are NO TOP RABBI's in Judaism, and even widely recognized and respected ones don't expect anyone to take their opinions as an edict, and are always argued with, and their thoughts pulled apart and debated.

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This. It's humorous when someone tries to be an expert in something outside his scope.

moeloubani · 05-17-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

If you were Jewish, you would know that there are no "Top" anything. A news agency with a political agenda, (any agenda or new agency you wish to pick), can frame an article how they like, but as I have said many times in this thread, one of the abiding aspects of Judaism is that all are encouraged to constantly discuss, argue, hold opinions on, and sometimes vehemently disagree with, other Jews about the meanings of texts, the tenants of the Talmud, and the traditions themselves, and to promote the evolution of Judaism over time

This is why holding on to our history so fiercely is held to be so important, since with the changing of pretty much everything else over time, knowing our history is the only thing that ensures that we do not completely lose our identity as a people. (Not race, but people, look at the massive influx of black Ethiopian Jews into Israel in the 80s and 90s).

And yet again, having said all that, there are NO TOP RABBI's in Judaism, and even widely recognized and respected ones don't expect anyone to take their opinions as an edict, and are always argued with, and their thoughts pulled apart and debated.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Rabbi

That shows that Judaism does clearly have 'top Rabbis'.

You have no idea what you're talking about Bonzo. How pathetic.

With every new word you say you prove more and more that you're just another goyim.

You never answered my question about how it feels to be a goy?

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This. It's humorous when someone tries to be an expert in something outside his scope.

Isn't it, TheDemon? Like when you agree with Bonzo and then both of you are proven wrong? Is that what you mean? You're just another goyim just like he is, you have no idea about true Judaism, goy.

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First of all, I never said they were "LIES". It was a comprehensive answer to your first post regarding the quote that you put up, and it explained in depth.

Second, the post that you are responding to was made moeloubani.... Who was "spiking the ball" when I admitted that I was wrong about something that you had posted. Kind of funny really. He was dancing a juvenile victory dance to take credit for a point that YOU had made rather than himself, and in the meantime I was at least big enough to say that I was wrong about those dumb Rabbi's in the news story.

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Damn right I was spiking the ball. It isn't YOU who decides what is Jewish and what isn't, it is those top Rabbis. YOU don't just decide something is Jewish and ignore what they say, otherwise we're all Jewish because I say so. Face it dude, you're just another goyim.

CaptainHowdy · 05-17-2011, 11:58 AM

The Demon · 05-17-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Rabbi

That shows that Judaism does clearly have 'top Rabbis'.

You have no idea what you're talking about Bonzo. How pathetic.

With every new word you say you prove more and more that you're just another goyim.

You never answered my question about how it feels to be a goy?

Isn't it, TheDemon? Like when you agree with Bonzo and then both of you are proven wrong? Is that what you mean? You're just another goyim just like he is, you have no idea about true Judaism, goy.

Damn right I was spiking the ball. It isn't YOU who decides what is Jewish and what isn't, it is those top Rabbis. YOU don't just decide something is Jewish and ignore what they say, otherwise we're all Jewish because I say so. Face it dude, you're just another goyim.

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Chief Rabbi is a title given in several countries to the recognized religious leader of that country's Jewish community, or to a rabbinic leader appointed by the local secular authorities. Since 1911, through a capitulation by Rabbi Uziel, Israel has had two chief rabbis, one Ashkenazi and one Sephardi.

My god, you are a moron. Did you even bother to read the article or did you link to it? Once again, you are a stupid human being.

05-17-2011, 09:40 AM	#51
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	you guys are seriously going to argue that gentiles are clean and the torah makes no mention of them ? hahaha sorry my bad the torah clearly says everyone is equal , gentiles are cool and everyone should have a great big party. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

05-17-2011, 09:45 AM	#54
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	``it is forbidden a Jew to unite himself to Gentiles, because they are suspected of shedding blood, and he may not join himself with them in the way; if he meets a Gentile in the way, he causes him to turn to the right hand; if they ascend by an ascent, or descend by a descent, the Israelite may not be below, and the Gentile above: but the Israelite must be above, and the Gentile below, lest he should fall upon him and kill him; and he may not go even with (or along side by him) lest he break his skull.'' __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

05-17-2011, 09:53 AM	#57
The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	As usual, qft. Good post __________________ Greed is Good

05-17-2011, 10:03 AM	#64
The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	Oh the irony of smokeys statement lol __________________ Greed is Good

05-17-2011, 10:04 AM	#65
The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	Moe, you've been making Muslims look bad for years, thanks for providing years of entertainment. You teach kids to stay in school. __________________ Greed is Good

05-17-2011, 09:59 AM	#60
The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	Moe, you're a stupid sand hahahahahaha who amuses us with his towelhead rhetoric. Gonzo and I just spent an hour explaining how Jews don't think theyre better. Yet you show your stupidity once again by claiming we said the opposite. Good show.

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The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	They don't speak for Jews they just pretend they do. __________________ Greed is Good

05-17-2011, 10:13 AM	#73
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	the exit door is over there "demon" heh __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	Great movie. Totally forgot Billy Zane was in it. He's a cool guy. __________________

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05-17-2011, 10:23 AM	#82
The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	Haha moe still getting his ass kicked on a daily basis because he's incompetent. __________________ Greed is Good

05-17-2011, 10:27 AM	#83
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	haaretz is a left wing (pro muslim) newspaper, no wonder smokey likes it lol __________________

05-17-2011, 10:29 AM	#85
marlboroack So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ☣ Posts: 9,327	I have honestly never met a Jew. Only Kyle from South Park.

05-17-2011, 10:34 AM	#88
jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	A Serious Man - Goy's Teeth scene https://youtube.com/watch?v=YUTyEEiulQk (embedding disabled) __________________ Last edited by jimmycooper; 05-17-2011 at 10:35 AM..

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