Latest .xxx news - Domains selling for $133 each

[LAJ]

First Dot-xxx Domains Hit Pre-Reg Market at $133 a Pop

YNOT ? DomainDiscount24.com, a division of German company Key-Systems, has become the first registrar to publish a price schedule for dot-xxx domains. Ranging from 92.44 to 110 euros (about U.S. $132.85 to $158.10), even the least expensive dot-xxx domains will retail at DD24 for more than double ICM Registry?s wholesale price of $62, including ICANN?s $2 cut.

More:
http://www.ynot.com/content/116811-f...t-133-pop.html

[Markul]

WTF!

[beerptrol]

everyone has to get their cut lol

[digitalfantasies]

i don't care, won't buy any...

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

At them prices renewal's will be a bitch.

[96ukssob]

suckers!

[just a punk]

LOL at those idiots who buy that useless shit. Personally I feel fine with .com

[Internet User]

waste of cash

[CYF]

Originally Posted by LAJ

First Dot-xxx Domains Hit Pre-Reg Market at $133 a Pop

YNOT ? DomainDiscount24.com, a division of German company Key-Systems, has become the first registrar to publish a price schedule for dot-xxx domains. Ranging from 92.44 to 110 euros (about U.S. $132.85 to $158.10), even the least expensive dot-xxx domains will retail at DD24 for more than double ICM Registry?s wholesale price of $62, including ICANN?s $2 cut.

More:
http://www.ynot.com/content/116811-f...t-133-pop.html

they're generally higher priced than other registrars I've noticed.

Name.com is planning on offering .xxx soon, I bet it will be cheaper there.

[Spudstr]

If people have trademarks they can block ICM from selling the domains period, no need to waste money on buying .xxx

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Spudstr

If people have trademarks they can block ICM from selling the domains period, no need to waste money on buying .xxx

why do that.. let the idiots buy the domain and then seize it and non renew...



.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

everyone has to get their cut lol

Appearently so

[429mg]

What a joke! A complete waste of money.

[TheDA]

Was reading about it this morning. I guess they've got a lot of people to pay-off.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

It's too bad that this industry is so cutthroat that it can rarely organize to act in its own best interest in dealing with issues affecting the industry as a whole (content theft/piracy, cross-sales, card-banging, talent testing, etc).

As a result, the industry that couldn't get organized is going to now be shaken down for as much as hundreds of millions per year, and that's just for domain registration.

Imagine if the industry invested only a tenth of what they will now have to pay annually into defeating .xxx instead...

ADG

[2intense]

FUCK .xxx

[nikki99]

[Sam - Mr. Skin]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

why do that.. let the idiots buy the domain and then seize it and non renew...



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i'm right with ya

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

It's too bad that this industry is so cutthroat that it can rarely organize to act in its own best interest in dealing with issues affecting the industry as a whole (content theft/piracy, cross-sales, card-banging, talent testing, etc).

As a result, the industry that couldn't get organized is going to now be shaken down for as much as hundreds of millions per year, and that's just for domain registration.

Imagine if the industry invested only a tenth of what they will now have to pay annually into defeating .xxx instead...

ADG

ADG its pretty obvious that back room deals and palm greasing was in the mix during this beasts creation. Still possibility of it all coming to light soon.

I do not think for a minute it was lack of action on the industries part, we have to stop blamming ourselves for this. It was money that pushed the scales, people were paid off. GAC was completely ignored and so was the results of the community efforts to end this.

In time it will be clear.
Fact is the vast majority of the industry opposed this things creation. ICANN operated in it's own self interest for profit and that in itself is against the rules.

By the time all the above is evident there is a good chance .XXX will be live and once the genie is out of the bottle thats it. It's appearent no one gives a shit what the industry says but in all my years I have never heard a more unified voice saying NO, especially since we are an industry that has a hard time getting along the large majority of us all agreed on something for once. Yet no one listened.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

As a result, the industry that couldn't get organized is going to now be shaken down for as much as hundreds of millions per year, and that's just for domain registration.

ADG

You're only going to be shaken down if you allow yourself to be. Don't buy .xxx and you'll keep all your money. Hell, for the price of 10 domains you could buy a shit ton of traffic or a really nice .com.

[woj]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

why do that.. let the idiots buy the domain and then seize it and non renew...

.

great strategy, except you can't just "seize it"...

[SmokeyTheBear]

it is so you wont feel as ripped off when they lower them to $50 once all porn is forced onto .xxx

you can bet there are icm folks right now convincing "blues" to make it safe for them there and "reds" it would be best to banish them there

[Nikki_Licks]

What a crock of crap.....this shit just gets better.....

Anyone buying the .XXX tld should have their head examined and the ones who pay $133 bucks should have a full on lobotomy....

[Herd]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

it is so you wont feel as ripped off when they lower them to $50 once all porn is forced onto .xxx

you can bet there are icm folks right now convincing "blues" to make it safe for them there and "reds" it would be best to banish them there

Why would the price go down if its mandated?

If its a Monopoly, they can do anything they want.

The price will probablly be $1000.00-10000.00 or more for a domain. Every year. They want the amateurs, and everyone else they dont like out of the game. This is a way of organizing the industry, how it was before the internet came and took over.

[u-Bob]

Could be they're raising their prices cuz they're not getting the response they hoped for....?

Best way to oppose the .xxx tld right now is to not buy any .xxx domains.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Could be they're raising their prices cuz they're not getting the response they hoped for....?

Best way to oppose the .xxx tld right now is to not buy any .xxx domains.

hard to say, they were saying in Phoenix,the apx $60 mark was a wholesale price

[Brad Mitchell]

As a service to those who are going to register these anyway, would anyone like me to set up a wholesale agreement and retail for straight wholesale plus a few percent for merchant processing fees? At least that would force immediate pressure down for competition.

Brad

[merina0803]

Originally Posted by Markul

WTF!

[Lilit]

I like this snippet:

"No. 4 requires registrar applicants to ?confirm the Registrar?s understanding of the Sponsored Community and its willingness and ability to serve that community.? "

Funny and sad at the same time, it's the first sponsored TLD that doesn't really represent the community it's supposed to be used by

[Herd]

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

I do not think for a minute it was lack of action on the industries part, we have to stop blamming ourselves for this. It was money that pushed the scales, people were paid off. GAC was completely ignored and so was the results of the community efforts to end this.

What about the Los Angeles porn Gods? They dont have money?

Larry Flynt is worth over $300,000,000, yet except a few burps here and there, he stayed relatively silent during ICANN's negotiations. The same man in previous years, always on tv, with his filibustering freedom of speech spectacles.

Its funny how alot of the mainstream porn forums never discussed .XXX, before, during or after its approval.

Oh i think the adult industry is still very organized, only its not the same industry that most adult webmasters think their members of.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

As a service to those who are going to register these anyway, would anyone like me to set up a wholesale agreement and retail for straight wholesale plus a few percent for merchant processing fees? At least that would force immediate pressure down for competition.

Brad

Not a good idea imho.

The problem with the .xxx tld is not that the prices are high.
The problem is not that .xxx will magically get our traffic (as some want us to believe).
The problem is not that surfers will suddenly stop trusting .com sites and only buy porn from .xxx sites (as Lawley wants us to believe).
The problem is not that you'll need to buy .xxx domains to protect your trademarks/brands (as Lawley wants you to believe).
... Most of those things are actually spread by the ICM to scare people into buying .xxx domains.

The real problem is that there are indications that the ICM Registry is planning to lobby to make the use of a .xxx domain mandatory for porn sites.

Ok, we all know that enforcing such a thing would be a technical nightmare.... But a lack of understanding of technology has never stopped politicians from passing ridiculous laws and regulations.

To counter this threat, it is important that we keep the amount of .xxx domains as low as possible.

Brad, I don't question your motives for one second, but the actions you just described would only cause harm...

(If you want to compete, compete at the tld level... apply for the creation of a .anal tld or a .lesbian tld or a .cum tld... anything that would help in preventing the ICM from claiming that they somehow present the adult industry and that the .xxx is the place it belongs.)

[alias]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

As a service to those who are going to register these anyway, would anyone like me to set up a wholesale agreement and retail for straight wholesale plus a few percent for merchant processing fees? At least that would force immediate pressure down for competition.

Brad

If you are going to get in do it, don't phish here for some random "sure, sounds great" comment so that you can refer to it later when people see you are a .xxx proponent and slinger.

[MrCain]

Mojohost has a great rep. Don't ruin it by selling dotxxx domains.

[alias]

I wonder who set up sex.xxx and made it live, it is hosted at mojohost:


http://webdetail.org/www.sex.xxx

Fleece the herd elsewhere mr sheep's wool painted shirts.

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by MrCain

Mojohost has a great rep. Don't ruin it by selling dotxxx domains.

As I have said before some business guys will have no choice. They can lose the business or gain from it. There is no black and white there will only be excuses why INSERTCOMPANY/PERSON has decided they will work with .XXX.

For example I am a Graphic Designer however I have no intentions of turning down business for an .XXX based site design. Other graphic designer's wont be as bold as me publicly stating it, but rest assured they will do it just like me.

Shoot me for being honest...
I do not like .XXX but I wont turn down a buck.
Got mouths to feed and bills to pay and who will pay me not to develop and design them domains? No one...

It's only a loss to decline business and someone else will gladly do it and no one will know the difference except my pocket book, so fuck that.

[livexxx]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

why do that.. let the idiots buy the domain and then seize it and non renew...
.

what about vagina.xxx freeporn.xxx , titsxxx etc and all the dictionary stuff i doubt they would care about selling some registered name compared to the rest they might be able to flog

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by livexxx

what about vagina.xxx freeporn.xxx , titsxxx etc

as if those domains would suddenly start getting traffic just because they end in .xxx?

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Estimated worth sex.xxx... $87.00 today.

LOL... Watch... Just watch.

[Brad Mitchell]

Originally Posted by alias

I wonder who set up sex.xxx and made it live, it is hosted at mojohost:


http://webdetail.org/www.sex.xxx

Fleece the herd elsewhere mr sheep's wool painted shirts.

Watch your words, Mr. Man. I commented on this the other day in my own thread that it was a surprise tome. I have no affiliation with .XXX although it appears a client of MojoHost does. We get paid for server rental, bandwidth and management. We have never charged extra for number of domains hosted and ICM is not a customer of MojoHost but evidently doing business with one of ours.

My question about registrar pricing was legitimate. Registration is indifferent from hosting in our business, simply a logical value added service that currently is referred out to a white label of Wild West Domains as a convenience. My fishing was just exactly that, to solicit feedback. I have already stated my position on the subject and that hasn't changed. My point was simple, there exists a mechanism to reduce the profiteering by 50% at least from this first registrar announcement if a few entities did it at a true wash on costs.

We already host over 700 adult companies on more than 1500 servers representing somewhere around 70000 or more adult domains. I don't need marketing tricks or gimmicks. We are committed to the adult community as a whole and always have substantial new business moving to and growing within our ranks.

Brad

[alias]

I watch my words so you can't do shit about it.

[will76]

Originally Posted by LAJ

First Dot-xxx Domains Hit Pre-Reg Market at $133 a Pop

YNOT ? DomainDiscount24.com, a division of German company Key-Systems, has become the first registrar to publish a price schedule for dot-xxx domains. Ranging from 92.44 to 110 euros (about U.S. $132.85 to $158.10), even the least expensive dot-xxx domains will retail at DD24 for more than double ICM Registry?s wholesale price of $62, including ICANN?s $2 cut.

More:
http://www.ynot.com/content/116811-f...t-133-pop.html

They had to increase the price to cover the salaries for all of the idiots they just hired.


Stuart is going about this such the wrong way (thank god). He is so greedy he is trying to price gouge thinking that everyone in adult will feel forced to buy it.

If he made them cheap, like $10 a domain he would sell the shit out of them. With the economy the way it is, he's not going to get many domainers to buy for $65 a pop much less $130 a pop just on pure speculation. Most of those guys can't afford to renew what they have now. Same thing goes for the adult industry, most people in it are broke and wont shell out that kind of money.

It's going to end up being an irrelevant tld if very few people buy it, which very few will at $130 a piece. When it becomes irrelevant it fades away fast, less chances of forcing adult over to it, if it is hardly being used.

Now if he was smart, (which he is not and I know he wont change course now so no harm in my posting this...) He would have made the domains $10 a piece. If he did that I'd bet he would have sold 500K of them in the first year. He would have made more money in registrations vs $130 a piece and many more renews, who can't afford $10? Not only would that be 5M, but it would have created hype, made the domain relevant and a contender to porn on .com's. Then since there would be millions of .xxx sites (domains) in use it would have been easier to say "let's ban porn on .com and just keep it on .xxx". It is going to be harder to *move* everyone over to .xxx than it would be to just ban it on .com if everyone was *already* on .xxx. Not to mention, its less likely to force people over to a tld that is charging $130 when you were using ones that charged $10.

If Lawley would have surrounded himself with intelligent people, unlike the Greg Dumbasses and Chris 2.0's maybe he could have gotten better advice and played this out correctly. The way it is set up now with these $130 prices, it is set up for a big fail.

Greed will always sink your ship.

[alias]

.gfy is going to be better, and cheaper.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Watch your words, Mr. Man. I commented on this the other day in my own thread that it was a surprise tome. I have no affiliation with .XXX although it appears a client of MojoHost does. We get paid for server rental, bandwidth and management. We have never charged extra for number of domains hosted and ICM is not a customer of MojoHost but evidently doing business with one of ours.

My question about registrar pricing was legitimate. Registration is indifferent from hosting in our business, simply a logical value added service that currently is referred out to a white label of Wild West Domains as a convenience. My fishing was just exactly that, to solicit feedback. I have already stated my position on the subject and that hasn't changed. My point was simple, there exists a mechanism to reduce the profiteering by 50% at least from this first registrar announcement if a few entities did it at a true wash on costs.

We already host over 700 adult companies on more than 1500 servers representing somewhere around 70000 or more adult domains. I don't need marketing tricks or gimmicks. We are committed to the adult community as a whole and always have substantial new business moving to and growing within our ranks.

Brad

So which one of your customers is doing business with .xxx then ?

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

As a service to those who are going to register these anyway, would anyone like me to set up a wholesale agreement and retail for straight wholesale plus a few percent for merchant processing fees? At least that would force immediate pressure down for competition.

Brad

no, it's better off at $130 so less people will buy it. If you make it cheaper more will be purchased. The less purchased, the more irrelevant it becomes. The more irrelevant the more likely it will fade away and be a flop and less likely to be forced over too.

And if you do do it, 95% of the people will think you are doing it for the money unless you did it at $0 profit, but I am sure you would add in something for yourself if you did it.

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

As I have said before some business guys will have no choice. They can lose the business or gain from it. There is no black and white there will only be excuses why INSERTCOMPANY/PERSON has decided they will work with .XXX.

For example I am a Graphic Designer however I have no intentions of turning down business for an .XXX based site design. Other graphic designer's wont be as bold as me publicly stating it, but rest assured they will do it just like me.

Shoot me for being honest...
I do not like .XXX but I wont turn down a buck.
Got mouths to feed and bills to pay and who will pay me not to develop and design them domains? No one...

It's only a loss to decline business and someone else will gladly do it and no one will know the difference except my pocket book, so fuck that.

You would have a good job AlienQ if you didn't bad mouth the company you worked for on GFY.

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Will76 its been said that .XXX has already got over 750K Pre Registrations.

Just sayin.

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by alias

.gfy is going to be better, and cheaper.

Agreed!!!11

[Naughtyname]

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

Will76 its been said that .XXX has already got over 750K Pre Registrations.

Just sayin.

Pre Registrations does not mean sales. People have shown an interest but like Will76 said at the price suggested many will not be able to bulk register domains!

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

True. Pre's don't matter.

[RyuLion]

God help us......

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by will76

You would have a good job AlienQ if you didn't bad mouth the company you worked for on GFY.

I'm sorry what company would that be?
I am currently not working for anyone I am a consultant and designer and have not been employed by anyone for more than 5 years.

I been off GFY for a better part of 3 years till recently.
I am more than capable of supporting myself, a job would be cool but I am not looking that hard!

[will76]

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

Will76 its been said that .XXX has already got over 750K Pre Registrations.

Just sayin.

Come on AlienQ, I know you not the sharpest tool in the shed but fuck do you people really have ZERO common sense.

Think for a moment... those pre registrations did not require any credit, purchase or verification what so ever. I could have went and pre registered a coupe million if I wanted to, those pre registrations don't mean dick in the real world. It was only done for ICM to try to show that there was a lot of "support" for the tld by pointing to that number. ALSO, I am sure many of those are duplicated. How many morons do you think went and put it " sex.xxx, porn.xxx" etc... I could guarantee you that a ton of them are duplicates. Lastly, I wouldn't trust any number that comes from ICM, they could have just inflated that amount anyways and there would be no way for anyone to disprove it.

What is wrong with you people ??? can't you think this shit through??? it's not rocket science.

just sayin.