by abolishing legal tender laws and letting the market take care of it.

Personal choice, not dictated what I can and can not do. This path will have a quicker way of making sure the strong survive. Be one hell of a first year thou :thumbsup

They are protecting themselves FROM you and anyone else whom might question them. See War Powers Act of 1933. You are the enemy.


Their plan involves consolidating their power and reducing you to a debt slave.. Your wish is their command..


He's been working on his plan for around 30 years now. I'm sure it's a bit more involved than just putting a new currency out there.



Oh so he has a hidden agenda of allowing a woman to choose? I think that fits right in with his "freedom" approach.

He is a true Republican, but many will not even give him a glance because he is.. a Republican.

he's a dreamer... right now we need to make money.

He's a realist. The Fed is making plenty for you. Hence the value of the dollar. :thumbsup

Way to take the exception and make it the rule. The world is not perfect and your cure is worse than the disease.

So again, proven medicine over unproven or dis-proven medicine is what I support.

If you think a guy who supports unproven medicine and Doctors not having to be licensed is a good idea, we'll just have to disagree.


Well you would be wrong. I don't believe that and that's not what the theory of evolution describes either. It sounds like you're simply ignorant of the science.

This is not even controversial among educated religious people. Where that leaves you I don't even care to know.




You call that an argument? That's an article from 2009. You're not really up to speed on economics are you?

This is the problem when you start with a conclusion and then cherry pick your support. Go learn something about the Fed and economics that you didn't read on World Net Daily or some CT site.

I know of one in 1941 for ww2 and did a quick look at the library of congress and a few other doc websites for the war powers act of 1933, I couldn't find anything.

Have an actual source that isn't a conspiracy site?


My plan involves me taking over their plan and calling them my slaves, so far it has worked equally as well.



He's been repeating the same basic ideas for 30 years and for 30 years he hasn't actually told anyone how he could pull it off.

Which is why nobody takes him seriously - the minute he started talking "action" vs. "ideas" people would stand up and take notice.


He doesn't support freedom of choice related to that choice.

Personally, I like some of his libertarian political positions; but, being more of a centerist, I still have trouble with totally decriminalizing heroin usage.

Just saying....there may be other alternatives besides prison and nothing.

Hundreds of years of use I would have to say is a lot more proven than a few years of trials conducted by the drug makers themselves. And the lawsuits agree.



"Human evolution is the origin and evolution of Homo sapiens as a distinct species from other hominids, great apes and mammals."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution


It seems you;re the one who doesn't know what it is.


Exactly, we are tens of trillions of dollars missing now.


I come from a financial background and have been preaching this stuff for years. I don't need anyone to tell me what I already know. It won't surprise me for you to ignore the facts to save face.

50 Election Run Fails

The system is broke. He may be too old to fix it but he is the only one who understands it is broken.

It was funny to read above that congress "protects us". These clowns sell us out to special interests everyday.

I am voting for him again. I hope others will too

The job of the gov is to protect the people... if we're missing a key part that makes those constitutional decisions, we have a problem.

I voted for him as well last time, it was better choice than the other two idiots running.

I just find it entertaining that so many people can repeat his message but don't have any clue how his ideas would actually come about.

It's a nick name for a combination of events and acts. The National Emergency Act, Trading with the Enemy Act, and the emergency banking legislation of 1933.

In a brief summary the federal reserve was on a 20 year charter. Starting in 1913 and ending in 1933. The ending or starting depending on how you want to look at it began with a series of events such as seizing of the peoples gold and giving them pieces paper in return. To safeguard themselves of public backlash from all of this it was written into legislation that the military could be used to protect them from the public. This is why a state of emergency (Swine Flu two year state of emergency most recently) is always declared within a matter of months of a President taking office giving him extraordinary powers. Also why he can do and odes do pretty much anything he wants with no approval from the House or Congress. Any arguments they may have is all for show. We are constantly in a state of emergency and have been since 1933.

"Senate Report 93-549 was a document issued by the "Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency" of the 93rd Congress (Hence the "93" in the name) (1973 to 1975). Its purpose was to discuss and address the 40 year long state of emergency that had been in effect in the United States since 1933. During the continued state of emergency, Congress voted to transfer powers from Congress to the President. The debate to end long-running states of National Emergency was ended in 1976 with the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601-1651), which limits any such declared emergencies to two years."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Report_93-549




:1orglaugh



The Fed has been around in the works for over 100 years. And people still believe it's Federal agency. Kinda hard for one guy to overcome that powerhouse of indoctrination in a matter of years.

So today, if a national emergency is declared then it will only last for two years... okay. I don't know how it's been happening for the last 80 years or so, but whatever.



I know lots of people that are aware that the reserve isn't a real fed agency... people find out every day. But that doesn't mean anyone will or would do anything about it, they have no reason to.

That's simply one of many ideas he has that he hasn't explained. Like what he would do if we had no gold.

I am voting for him again.:thumbsup

He's said over and over again that his own beliefs and opinions are just that, nothing more. He shares them when asked, but it doesn't mean that as President he would try to make the country exactly as Ron Paul wants it, that would just be delusional.

He has my vote. I was in Exeter when he announced. 300 to 400 people there on a one day notice. He is going up in the polls and in 2nd or 3rd in many states. He has a chance to win and according to his campaign manager (who I spoke to for 20 mins) unlike last time they are running to win. Why? Because Ron Paul truly believes that we face/are in a dollar crises that only Austrian economists will know how to fix.

A recent CNN poll has Ron Paul the closest to beating Obama of all republicans running.

go go go

The Libertarian Party has a Presidential candidate every election...as do many...many other parties. You will not see much of them mentioned in the mainstream press but you can see them and their debates on C-span during every election period.

What the hell is that suppose to mean? You people are a minority in most of Europe
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/parlia.../index_en.html


p.s
Go Ron Paul!

FYI. With Huckabee not running Ron Paul moves into second place in Iowa.

Ron Paul will never make it out of the primary

"Who does best against Obama? Paul. The congressman from Texas, who also ran as a libertarian candidate for president in 1988 and who is well liked by many in the tea party movement, trails the president by only seven points (52 to 45 percent) in a hypothetical general election showdown. Huckabee trails by eight points, with Romney down 11 points to Obama. "

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...op-nomination/

Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...42_ron_paul_41

charlie g for president ...

I nominate Flava Flav.

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/P...-Flav-ps01.jpg

I'm not arguing against anything that is proven, whether it is derived from nature with a long history or developed through modern research.

It is not an either / or proposition. Your argument is the same simpleton argument against vaccinations / immunizations. Should we get rid of those as well in your view?

Do you comprehend what you read? That is in direct contradiction to your statement about "Humans descending from Apes". Maybe you should read the whole wiki page.

"Scientists have estimated that humans branched off from their common ancestor with chimpanzees about 5–7 million years ago."

Conspiracy Theorists like you have used this video to allege the Fed has given this money away and have no idea where it went, which is absurd.

The Fed released all the documents to show exactly where every penny went following Bloomberg's legal action.

The vast majority of loans have been paid back in full plus interest. Why do you think the Federal Reserve's annual payment to the U.S. Treasury for 2010 set a record high of $79.3 billion and the payment to the U.S. Treasury for 2009 was over $47 billion?

The key point is that Ron Paul et al leave out the fact that the Fed made numerous short term loans throughout the financial crisis that amount to trillions when added together but they were not all outstanding at the same time.

If they told the whole story, their impact on nutters with tales of how the Federal Reserve "criminal organization" is throwing trillion dollar bills all over the place would lose its potency.

So do I, but that really doesn't settle anything, does it?

It seems to me that you are ignoring the facts, not me. Why don't you look at the transaction data for yourself? It can be found on the Federal Reserve website. Start here:

Fed balance sheet

Fed-assisted off balance sheet financial interventions

Archived Fed assisted emergency programs

Yeah, i think Obama has this one. Now after Obama, we might be kinda fucked.

Yes we should. I had maybe 2-3 immunizations in my life. Just fine here. My son on the otherhand wasn't so lucky and has crohn's disease from being given immunizations.


Apes, Monkeys, Chimpanzees, whatever.. I don't believe it and you do. Besides they've discovered humanoids older than 5-6 billion years and didn't revise their "proven science." "Proven science" can't explain the gene splicing's that occurred.



They only released the figures after a long legal battle because of who they were loaning the money to which was mostly foreign banks. All monies are still not accounted for. As you well know they work on a fractional reserve basis. So whatever monies said co-conspirators received was then multiplied at least 10 fold. Paying off a loan when you can multiply said loan by at least 10 is pretty easy to do.

Now I know who I'll be donating to this election cycle.

Who's at first?

Romney by about 10 points. But I think Romney has just about peaked, Paul has not even come close to peaking. And the poll was taken before Paul announced.

Oh yea, because we're just totally "good to go" with Obama in office. lol

Nothing has changed you fucking moron!

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

He even kept all of Bush's neocon warmongers like Robert Gates in the administration.

You fools will continue to argue back and forth about Republicans and Democrats while the same fucking agenda moves forward, regardless of who the "President" is.

Not this shit again .....

Sorry to hear about your son. This explains your position more so than the actual facts.

Oh, I think the science does a really good job at explaining evolution. You on the other hand, not so much.

But I'm curious, what do you believe? I mean, are you a Biblical creationist? Did God do it or what?

So you now acknowledge that the figures are out there?? Good. Now explain exactly what monies are still not accounted for.

And really this goes back to what I said about politicizing the FED. In your view that just meant supporting politicians like Ron Paul to ask stupid questions. What I meant was the importance of FED independence.

You seem to be opposed to having a politically independent central bank, presumably you want a politically dependent one then??


I trust with your financial background you understand that FRB and what the Fed did during the crisis with Maiden Lane, etc. are two different subjects.

Or do you need me to explain FRB to you as well?

not quite sure what to think of the guy, sure he talks a good talk about issues including a bloated government that does not work but the fact is he is a career politician- he's a part of the problem imo.

If nominated I will not run....... (but if you want to send me campaign contributions I will put them to good use:upsidedow)

The actual facts are the "proven scientist" who has been in the forefront of denying vaccination links to diseases was recently arrested for embezzling money intended for research.

I won't get into my beliefs. But I will say that the bible was created by man based on ancient mythology.

Maiden Lane I, II, and III were where the initial funds were deposited and dispersed and also serve as holding companies for the "bad debts" (banker bets) purchased. The recipients received funds which were used as reserves which were also multiplied via FRB. The initial funds (700 billion) was multiplied into 10's of trillions.


Financial Rescue Nears GDP as Pledges Top $12.8 Trillion (Update1) NOTE $12.8 trillion is not 700 billion.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=armOzfkwtCA4

That was in 2009. Last official record it was around 28 trillion. But it's actually believed to be closer to 100 trillion. And it is said the criminals need 100 trillion more.

Which is why the cost of everything is shooting through the roof for you and I, but when you ask them there is no inflation.

Ron Paul is the guy that wanted to close the Post Office, then have one of the best operating govt functions, turned over to big business. The guy is a nut job, he sound good in 15 second sound bytes but if you actually listen to him long you can easily see how unrealistic he really is.

Think about it.. Big Business in America is already killing this country and he wants to turn everything over to them.

He will never win, but sadly we will have to deal with all the RP fruit cakes coming out of the wood work once again..

The US postal service was originally a private entity..