Tube sites do not need to keep 2257 docs ?

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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609

    #1

    Tube sites do not need to keep 2257 docs ?

    The law seems to imply if you are giving away the videos for free you don't need to keep 2257

    (a) Whoever produces any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digital image, digitally- or computer-manipulated image of an actual human being, picture, or other matter which?
    (1) contains one or more visual depictions made after November 1, 1990 of actual sexually explicit conduct; and
    (2) is produced in whole or in part with materials which have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, or is shipped or transported or is intended for shipment or transportation in interstate or foreign commerce;
    shall create and maintain individually identifiable records pertaining to every performer portrayed in such a visual depiction.
    hatisblack at yahoo.com
  • helterskelter808
    So Fucking Banned
    • Sep 2010
    • 3405

    #2
    I believe it is because they don't know what their users are uploading.

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    • ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2011
      • 1241

      #3
      Yup for some reason government wont pursue 2257 compliance. If they did tubes would be fuckin devastated. I have said this many times, no one gives a shit.

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      • TubeKing
        Confirmed User
        • May 2011
        • 541

        #4
        exempt, too hard to police.

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        • L-Pink
          working on my tan
          • Mar 2005
          • 39151

          #5
          Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
          Yup for some reason government wont pursue 2257 compliance. If they did tubes would be fuckin devastated. I have said this many times, no one gives a shit.
          Me too ....

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          • blackmonsters
            Making PHP work
            • Nov 2002
            • 20960

            #6
            Tubes are "secondary producers" and that was the part of 2257 that got canned.

            But thanks for making an issue out of a dead horse that most people already
            understood.

            Yeeha.
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            • BV
              wtf
              • Sep 2001
              • 10914

              #7
              tubes are not secondary producers

              tube sites are considered the same as a web host

              the users that upload are responsible for the 2257 docs

              just like you are responsible for what you upload to your website (if you run a paysite for example) your host is not responsible

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              • blackmonsters
                Making PHP work
                • Nov 2002
                • 20960

                #8
                Originally posted by BV
                tubes are not secondary producers

                tube sites are considered the same as a web host

                the users that upload are responsible for the 2257 docs

                just like you are responsible for what you upload to your website (if you run a paysite for example) your host is not responsible
                Thanks for making more shit up that ain't true.

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                • L-Pink
                  working on my tan
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 39151

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BV
                  tubes are not secondary producers

                  tube sites are considered the same as a web host

                  the users that upload are responsible for the 2257 docs

                  just like you are responsible for what you upload to your website (if you run a paysite for example) your host is not responsible
                  Like most tubesites didn't start with uploading their own, but stolen, videos.

                  .

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                  • sabin
                    Registered User
                    • May 2011
                    • 60

                    #10
                    everything on the internet is considered "interstate commerce" as is pretty much everything in America. The interstate commerce clause is how Congress justifies passing federal laws that cover the whole US, since they are limited to only certain enumerated powers. This doesn't imply that giving videos away isn't commerce, in jurisprudence it almost certainly is.
                    *not legal advice*
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                    • ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1241

                      #11
                      Every single video that appears on a tubesite should have 2257 information before the clip plays or shown on the 2257 compliance notice page. TECHNICALLY.
                      Just like it is required of videos and other media materials in commerce. If not listed the producer is in violation and the tube site operator runs a risk in the event that the materials may not be legal for example CP.

                      It is a requirement only because authorities may need the information available to them in the event of an investigation. If its not on the tube site by some method they are in violation.

                      Technically speaking.

                      But like I said no one gives a shit.
                      I am not a lawyer but I have talked to a few about this in the past.

                      Perhaps down the road the government is just waiting for them to be worth pursuing and thats when the shit will hit the fan. Thats the day government get's its money after letting them get fat and worth sucking down the drain for a payoff.

                      Look how the government let the financial industry hang itself, now they are going after individuals and taking there money and locking them up.
                      Last edited by ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-12-2011, 04:38 PM.

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                      • $5 submissions
                        I help you SUCCEED
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32195

                        #12
                        Any guesses on enforcement?

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                        • SmokeyTheBear
                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 28609

                          #13
                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                          Tubes are "secondary producers" and that was the part of 2257 that got canned.
                          doesn't appear that way.
                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                          But thanks for making an issue out of a dead horse that most people already
                          understood.
                          seems that not everyone feels the way you assume they do..
                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                          • SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1100

                            #14
                            I have sent DMCA letters to many tubes who steal my content.
                            These tube sites do NOT have my permission to post my content and they DO NOT have 2257 records of the talent in the content they steal without my permission.

                            Therefore they are getting away with violating Federal laws as the OP pointed out.
                            Last edited by SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN; 05-12-2011, 06:41 PM.

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                            • will76
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                              • May 2003
                              • 18037

                              #15
                              without reading any of that.... user submitted to a tube site, tube site doesn't need 2257 just like a dating site that has members post nude pictures of themselves or users on a forum. If the tube site puts the content up itself then it would need 2257.
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