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Far-L 05-10-2011 07:43 PM

Yeah... politically correct... I am in the porn industry. You forget your common sense on the way to work today?

but thanks for posting my pic - that makes me feel like you really care.

alias 05-10-2011 08:02 PM

I do care.

Far-L 05-10-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18124721)
bingo what?

this is what she said:

"Most of those students are consensually having sex but the fact that they are not of an age to legally have the right to consent without the permission of an adult parent and/or guardian makes the difference."

which is quite clearly trivializing the definition of rape, and blaming the victim.

keep in mind she is just now admitting that this is in fact rape, although it is not brutal nor violent.

Well... no... you are actually making assumptions and drawing irreverent conclusions not based on what is being said, unfortunately. The law defines that type of "rape" differently for good reason but not at the expense of someone still being considered victimized. So, yes, we can all agree that it is a form of "rape" but clearly it is not the same as forced sex. Either way, this is not about whether or not that person is a victim, which I clearly agree that he or she is, so stop trying to paint it any differently. This is about society thinking some people "deserve" it.

What is your point anyway?

I admit this is a subject I am very sensitive about so sorry for coming off angry about it but seriously, what are you trying to prove? If I didn't know any better I would've guessed will76 was writing your material.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 05-10-2011 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18124721)
blah blah blah

I'm not interested in discussing this with you.

Note: You should not take this as an invitation to ICQ me with a bunch of bullshit like you did last time.

Spunky 05-10-2011 08:23 PM

I'm not a slut,I'm just popular

Bill8 05-10-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18123645)
all those women who have sex with their students, or anything else going on, aren't actually raping them?

it's considered rape because it's considered an abuse of power. the threat in this case is not a threat of force or violence, its a threat of loss of priviledge or access or rights.

arguably things like teacher student sex involves a number of other complex issues, such as the ownership of children by their parents, making it a property crime as well. our society has a number of odd moral beliefs that have traditionally been applied to rape, usually in the property crime area. Therefore, rape of a married woman has in he past been considered a property crime against the husband, rape of an unmarried woman a property crime against the father. But except for children, the property crime model of rape is considered obsolete now.

Far-L technically is incorrect legally calling rape a hate crime, most rape is considered a violent crime.

Hate crimes have specific meanings - for example, so-called "corrective rape" does technically fit the definition of a hate crime.

However, arguably many rapes, such as the digital rape of Lara Logan in egypt, fits the model of a hate crime. As do many military rapes, and rape murders.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-10-2011 09:14 PM



ADG

alias 05-10-2011 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 18124915)
Hate crimes have specific meanings - for example, so-called "corrective rape" does technically fit the definition of a hate crime.

Since I had not seen that term before I will paste the definition for others:

Corrective rape is a criminal practice, whereby homosexual individuals, both lesbian women and gay men, are raped by persons of the opposite sex, sometimes under supervision by members of their families or local communities, purportedly as a means of "curing" them of their sexual orientation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape

mikesinner 05-10-2011 10:22 PM

Slut is such a hateful word. No one is really a slut. It's just a pathetic, jealous or puritanical person venting their frustration onto someone that is exhibiting normal human behavior.

I may use these terms when I make adult blogs but I realize they are not acceptable in normal speech.

Far-L 05-10-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 18124915)
it's considered rape because it's considered an abuse of power. the threat in this case is not a threat of force or violence, its a threat of loss of priviledge or access or rights.

arguably things like teacher student sex involves a number of other complex issues, such as the ownership of children by their parents, making it a property crime as well. our society has a number of odd moral beliefs that have traditionally been applied to rape, usually in the property crime area. Therefore, rape of a married woman has in he past been considered a property crime against the husband, rape of an unmarried woman a property crime against the father. But except for children, the property crime model of rape is considered obsolete now.

Far-L technically is incorrect legally calling rape a hate crime, most rape is considered a violent crime.

Hate crimes have specific meanings - for example, so-called "corrective rape" does technically fit the definition of a hate crime.

However, arguably many rapes, such as the digital rape of Lara Logan in egypt, fits the model of a hate crime. As do many military rapes, and rape murders.

Thank you. I do stand corrected and appreciate your explanation. I just hope the peanut gallery can bow to its wisdom and we can all agree....

rape is bad and no one "deserves" it.

Poindexterity 05-10-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 18121519)
What if one of the women gets raped, does that make the cop right?

nope. next question, please.

Poindexterity 05-10-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 18122318)
Have you considered the possibility that the officer's comments were not intended to assign fault but to prevent rape.

nope. cause comments cannot prevent rape.
next question please.

Poindexterity 05-10-2011 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18123286)
he raped her? you should report your facts to the police and the court if you have further information

ok, got it.
you're not even trying to have an actual conversation here.
i can move along.

Poindexterity 05-10-2011 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 18123362)
My mom doesn't dress like a slut.

maybe not to you or i, but in SOMEONE'S eye's she damn sure does.
see where im going here?

scaaaaaary little path you're walkin dude.

Poindexterity 05-10-2011 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18124444)
You are both too ridiculously over-zealously trying to twist what I am saying into something else and completely missing the point.

well yeah.
that's like smokescreen 101.

that's what you do when deep in your heart, you know you're full of shit.
you twist the subject.

notice how yall aint even talkin bout the same thing anymore?

Ayla_SquareTurtle 05-10-2011 11:14 PM

:thumbsup

Poindexterity 05-11-2011 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18123755)
if im wearing a shirt that says 'i sell cocaine and have lots of it in my pockets' and some dudes jump me and rob me, i understand that the guys shouldn't have robbed me but i shouldn't have been wearing that shirt

so should the police say 'don't dress like a drug dealer and you won't be treated like one'? of course they should, so what's the difference?

rape is wrong just like mugging someone is wrong but if im walking around with my tits hanging out and my pussy just barely hidden its like me saying 'i have sex for sale and i have tits and a fat juicy pussy right here on me' so yeah you're gonna get raped if the wrong person comes by. is it right? no.

just like you shouldnt walk around with the i have cocaine in my pocket shirt you shouldn't walk around looking like a whore or you may draw unwanted attention

the point you're missing is that EVERY female on the planet has "lots of cocaine in their pockets" and every one knows it no matter how they dress.

_Richard_ 05-11-2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poindexterity (Post 18125043)
ok, got it.
you're not even trying to have an actual conversation here.
i can move along.

huh? she is making assumptions, i inquired about it.

_Richard_ 05-11-2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 18124837)
I'm not interested in discussing this with you.

Note: You should not take this as an invitation to ICQ me with a bunch of bullshit like you did last time.

riiiiight

_Richard_ 05-11-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18124829)
Well... no... you are actually making assumptions and drawing irreverent conclusions not based on what is being said, unfortunately. The law defines that type of "rape" differently for good reason but not at the expense of someone still being considered victimized. So, yes, we can all agree that it is a form of "rape" but clearly it is not the same as forced sex. Either way, this is not about whether or not that person is a victim, which I clearly agree that he or she is, so stop trying to paint it any differently. This is about society thinking some people "deserve" it.

What is your point anyway?

I admit this is a subject I am very sensitive about so sorry for coming off angry about it but seriously, what are you trying to prove? If I didn't know any better I would've guessed will76 was writing your material.

my point is your point about 'society thinking they deserve it' is hilarious while you try to explain that statutory rape isn't really rape and those victims 'wanted it' or better known as 'deserving it'

the IRS will still be auditing rape victims.. that still is the big missed point in this huge mess, rather than stupid peoples opinions.

JFK 05-11-2011 08:27 AM

100 Slut walks

_Richard_ 05-11-2011 08:33 AM

gaaaa the master

CaptainHowdy 05-11-2011 08:35 AM

I call hysteria. Those "sluts" couldn't handle a full-blown rape ...

BlackCrayon 05-11-2011 08:37 AM

there was a case here in ottawa where a guy was targetting girls who had been in the downtown market drinking, offering them rides and then sexually assaulting them. again, rape/sexual assault can happen to anyone but this guy was seeking out traits that made the girls 'easy' targets, much like dress can be taken. i don't know why people take such offense to the idea that there are assholes out there who will see short skirts and think, i want me some of that and won't be nice about it. it doesn't mean anyone deserves it, it doesn't mean that you won't get raped wearing 20 pounds of clothes either. it just means there are many reasons why rape/sexual assault happens and sometimes dress can be factor.

Far-L 05-11-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18126008)
my point is your point about 'society thinking they deserve it' is hilarious while you try to explain that statutory rape isn't really rape and those victims 'wanted it' or better known as 'deserving it'

the IRS will still be auditing rape victims.. that still is the big missed point in this huge mess, rather than stupid peoples opinions.

What on earth are you talking about?

There you go again. I never said it wasn't rape, just that it was different and that laws are in place to reconcile the grey areas and protect against the victimization accordingly. At this point all you are doing is trying to bully someone that has actually had to deal with rape on a very personal level.

Happy?

Does that fulfill some sort of GFY keyboard warrior tough guy aspiration? Stand in my shoes for a second and you would see what an insensitive and pathetic effort that truly is.

You read something into what I was saying that was never there to begin with, now apparently you are too consumed with appearing somehow so superior that you can't just apologize for your own misunderstanding. Impressive. So much righteousness and so little to show for it in the way of actually being right.

Bully for you, smartypants...

Ayla_SquareTurtle 05-11-2011 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18125996)
riiiiight

I know I am, but thanks for agreeing :thumbsup

Ayla_SquareTurtle 05-11-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18126551)

You read something into what I was saying that was never there to begin with

:thumbsup

Poindexterity 05-11-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18126551)
Stand in my shoes for a second...

if he were capable of that, do you REALLY think you'd be having this discussion with him?

CDSmith 05-11-2011 11:36 AM

The question "What was the victim wearing?" shouldn't even be asked in a rape trial. The ONLY relevant point of fact is did the guy do it or didn't he? If he did it shouldn't matter the reason, put him away for a very long time and move on to catching the next rapist sicko.

This whole blame the victim mentality people have baffles me. That it's coming from a cop, well, that actually doesn't surprise me at all.

Sarah_Jayne 05-11-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18122403)
http://www.ratfinktshirts.com/Images...sWhisperer.jpg

Although I am sometimes referred to as the "Slut Whisperer" (aka the "Whores Whisperer"), I don't think I have the patience to be model herding at a slut protest.

Thanks for the invite anyway... :)

ADG

I love the notion of slut herding.

Shane_2ptoh 05-11-2011 12:28 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QyzWfoy7lXQ

Sarah_Jayne 05-11-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18122635)
he blames the victim for the crime (and he is a policeman? )

It was the banks fault it got robbed - it had all that money...


"marches and political theatre of that type dont accomplish all that much."

Other than civil rights, end vietnam war, trade union rights, voting, etc etc

Thank you....well put.

Sarah_Jayne 05-11-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 18123259)
What are the SF dates? They are supposed to march in Austin too.

The person I have been talking to simply says 'mid june'. Which made me think that it might be around the same time as your show and I could totally see getting industry 'sluts' out there. Plus, the last day of the show is the first day of Pride.

Sarah_Jayne 05-11-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18123286)
he raped her? you should report your facts to the police and the court if you have further information

unless of course, you're just speculating and mostly upset that the old ass judge would say something stupid

it's not like the streets are safe for everyone.. but i see the value and purpose of a bunch of women dressing like sluts to protest a 'he said she said' ruling

makes sense.

Okay..you do get that those were general 'he and she's' right? Yes, if somebody is raped it is the fault of the person that did the raping and not her clothing. I am not sure what was so confusing about that statement for you :)

Sarah_Jayne 05-11-2011 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poindexterity (Post 18125098)
the point you're missing is that EVERY female on the planet has "lots of cocaine in their pockets" and every one knows it no matter how they dress.

*standing ovation*

alias 05-11-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18126053)
i don't know why people take such offense to the idea that there are assholes out there who will see short skirts and think, i want me some of that and won't be nice about it. it doesn't mean anyone deserves it, it doesn't mean that you won't get raped wearing 20 pounds of clothes either. it just means there are many reasons why rape/sexual assault happens and sometimes dress can be factor.

I don't see why either, and it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with blame. ALL fault falls upon the rapist OBVIOUSLY.

One reason I can see for ignoring this is that it negates a need for a "slut walk", and these cock teases need something to do.

_Richard_ 05-11-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 18126902)
Okay..you do get that those were general 'he and she's' right? Yes, if somebody is raped it is the fault of the person that did the raping and not her clothing. I am not sure what was so confusing about that statement for you :)

it's not confusing at all. What i am confused about is why there is now global protests about something that is not only stupid, but slightly common sense.

this is all happening in the face of cuts to abortion funding and some pretty barbaric laws regarding rape reporting from the US

that has no mention

_Richard_ 05-11-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18126551)
What on earth are you talking about?

There you go again. I never said it wasn't rape, just that it was different and that laws are in place to reconcile the grey areas and protect against the victimization accordingly. At this point all you are doing is trying to bully someone that has actually had to deal with rape on a very personal level.

Happy?

Does that fulfill some sort of GFY keyboard warrior tough guy aspiration? Stand in my shoes for a second and you would see what an insensitive and pathetic effort that truly is.

You read something into what I was saying that was never there to begin with, now apparently you are too consumed with appearing somehow so superior that you can't just apologize for your own misunderstanding. Impressive. So much righteousness and so little to show for it in the way of actually being right.

Bully for you, smartypants...

yes you did say that it wasn't rape, in way of describing rape as crime that only can be 'violent or brutal' or that statutory rape was something the victims 'wanted anyway'

obviously my defending a large portion of rape victims is unsettling for you, and i apologize if my audacity of calling your double standards out was upsetting

as you can see, again, i have not called you a 'lone ranger on a booger patrol' or attempted to use personal past situations to try and strike you emotionally. You have.

good day.

_Richard_ 05-11-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poindexterity (Post 18126649)
if he were capable of that, do you REALLY think you'd be having this discussion with him?

do you have something to say to me that is actually applicable to the conversation?

Far-L 05-11-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18126982)
yes you did say that it wasn't rape, in way of describing rape as crime that only can be 'violent or brutal' or that statutory rape was something the victims 'wanted anyway'

obviously my defending a large portion of rape victims is unsettling for you, and i apologize if my audacity of calling your double standards out was upsetting

as you can see, again, i have not called you a 'lone ranger on a booger patrol' or attempted to use personal past situations to try and strike you emotionally. You have.

good day.

Ok, can you feel like you got the last word in now and move on? You are free to think whatever you want.

You really done gone an' a schooled me now. I will forever tremble at the sheer geniusness of your immaculate perceptions and absolute authority of standards and measures. You sir are the most worthy of the astuteness of your own all knowingness. Feel vastly secure that no one knows more about less and less about more than ye.


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