Wrong.



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yup :thumbsup

Navy have right to arrest people in Pakistan?!? Hm alright then :error

right

restart thread :1orglaugh

no facts to backup your argument.. please list the legit reasons it is ok to murder someone

Meat is murder ...

Oh, I am sorry. If it is on CNN it must be true. :1orglaugh

Absofuckinglutely.

cnn is saying bin laden is dead , so you are saying bin laden is alive ? ok then. You are standing too close to the pipes baddog.

1. They asked for it.

2. They are no loss and no use to the world.

3. They smell.

4. They posted "links pulled" 20 times a day.


The list goes on...

fiddy dead arabs ?

whoops :P

very umm logical list :Oh crap

While I kind of agree with you that no one has right to play God, and everyone draws line differently.

But my friend, the world is not an ideal place. Here, you should not fuck with someone who have more money and power than you do.

The one with power, makes the rules.

So, chill. He did what he could, and US did what it could.

As logical as the original point of this thread. :upsidedow

Nice spin? You are not very good at this. :upsidedow

Americans will never agree that what they did was wrong... they won't even agree that they should not get involved with things that are not about them like VIETNAM, PAKISTAN and many other countries...
saying that they killed Bin Laden in self defense is agreeing that the 911 was also self defense since they were hunting Bin Laden for quite a LONG TIME...
it is all a matter of which side you are standing when looking at the facts...
Americans can never see things from a different perspective...

i don't see your point?

eh..the way i see it..is if you are such a bad ass that the american president knows your name and could send navy seals after you..then you get what you get

nice spin ? you claimed it wasn't true because it was on cnn ..

then in the foxnews thread you insinuated things weren't funny unless you were perfect and that you only laughed at people falling down because you have never fallen down ever in your life..:winkwink:

biased a little :2 cents::1orglaugh

i would have respected obama alot more if he said that..:thumbsup

i know you are but what am i ..

Smokey, normally it seems you have a bit of common sense. However not in this topic, you are just being dumb..

The greatest thing about the USA is that the people who founded it had no idea it would become the world's greatest power, which it has only done in the last 70 years.

The worst thing is the USA and too many Americans seem to have a special mentality that violence, agression and killing is the best response to any problem.

The latter doesn't seem to be the case in other democracies, but they are all too weak to 'police' the world. Only Russia and China are powerful enough to become dominant, and neither of those countries has the checks and balances, legally and constitutionally, that the USA has (thanks to the founding fathers).

For all its faults, if there has to be an 'alpha' country in the world, the USA is by far the best alternative.

What the USA did to Osama (if you believe it) is nothing, and quite deserved if he was responsible for the WTC attacks, compared to the unforgivable and rogue way it (or Bush and his cronies) behaved after 9/11.

I NEVER said that.

you just think it right ? :winkwink: make up your mind baddog.

either cnn is lying and baddog is correct or cnn is telling the truth and baddog is implying they are lying about it..

you could be right baddog and cnn could be out to get you to make you look bad on gfy.

ObomaFather. He called the hit and the family took care of it! Fogetaboutit;)
The US of us is run like the fucking mob ran the country during prohibition. Stiffarmed and lots of CYA or is it CIA, the two confuse me?
Glad the fuck is dead, but I do agree, would have been nice to bring him in and make it hurt a wee bit longer. That is, if he can truly be proved guilty (and admitting it on national TV) for the crimes he committed or if he was just making the call for a hit?

Not being funny,

But not long after 9/11 and the attacks in the UK and Madrid

Many people would have loved to hear the words "Bin Laden has been killed in a missile attack"

When they went into Iraq, although not as many people agreed with this war, people would have loved to hear the words "Saddam has been killed in a missile strike in baghdad"

Now there is people fighting in Libya and I bet many people still want to hear the words "Colonel Ghaddafi has been killed by a missile attack in Tripoli"

In WW2 I bet there was many people wishing "Hitler has been killed by a bomb"

The list goes on.....

I'm not trying to make any point with this post, just saying a lot of people wanted or want people dead for what they have done / or what they are doing.

Also while we are on the subject of justice.

Check out the movie "The Tortured" very good movie that will get people thinking about justice/laws.

people don't actually practice christianity or follow the general moral precepts of monotheism. they expouse it as it suits their needs and ignore it when it doesn't.

they especially don't practice the moral precepts when other tribes are involved, or with people they have defined as "not one of us".

and the affairs of nations have never been conducted by monotheistic moral precepts.

The major flaw in your logic is that YOU don't get to dictate the terms of what/how one belief effects, or is related to, another.

U.S. special forces set out to kill Osama bin Laden and dump his body in the sea to make it harder for the al Qaeda founder to become a martyr, U.S. national security officials told Reuters on Monday.
"This was a kill operation," one of the officials said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110503/..._binladen_kill

but i suppose yahoo news is probably lying to make baddog look like a retard.

did you read what you quoted ?

if you agree with bin laden being murdered, then you must also agree there are reasons people should be killed , it is a pretty simple concept. The opposite would be that nyou agree with binladen being killed but you dont think anyone deserves to be killed , and that makes no sense so my statement is bang on.

If someone's primary objective is murdering innocent people, and apprehending such individual puts more lives at risk than simply taking that individual out, then yes- I don't see a problem.

It's not eye for an eye, it's removing a mass murdering asshole from assisting in the organization of future grand scale acts of violence and in effect protecting life.

that was never their objective, that is like saying obama and bush's objective in iraq and afghanistan is to murder innocent people.. bush and obama have murdered alot more innocent people than osama has.




the same thing could be said about bush or obama the only difference is obama and bush have killed alot more people than bin laden.

You could literally fill your house with the bodies of dead babies bush and obama have had killed. but i think i follow your point .. it is ok when americans kill shitloads of innocent people but not ok for anyone else to do it on a much smaller scale.. gotcha.. killing babies is only cool if your skin isn't brown

Killing civilians wasn't the objective of Osama's terror attacks? The objective of his terror attacks were to kill as many civilians as possible to create a shocking or appauling result and thus bring attention to his organization and political views. His goal for the 9-11 attacks was to cause a loss of life so great it would scar a generation's psyche.

I hate when people throw up race or ethnicity out of the blue. I guess Obama's a white man now? :1orglaugh

But seriously, I am not defending the current wars in Afghanistan or Iraq. Life isn't black and white, just because I agree with one act of a govermnet doesn't mean I give them carte blanche to do what ever they want.

If you keep trying to lock things and people down to "if then" statements you're going to have a difficult time and also paint yourself into a corner. Just because someone agrees with something in one scenario doesn't mean they are forced to subscribe to a set pattern of thinking or judgement. If you do that you remove your own objectivity. Nothing and no one exists in this world without hypocrisy or sin, nothing worth anything does not have cost.

Removing this asshole from the planet is an act in the interest of preservation of innocent lives, even if the hand that did it is dirty as well.

not blind just one-eyed

that is exactly what I mean...

so how do you call Bush (both of them)?
would it be OK to invade the White House (when they lived there) to kill them (or wherever they are living now)
How about Jimmy Carter, Dixon, and many other USA Presidents who have been sending soldiers all over the world to kill people in order to bring "PEACE"?

it is all matter of WHO IS INNOCENT... it is all a matter of perspective... what is innocent for some people might be a "crime" for other people...

so how do you call Bush (both of them)?
would it be OK to invade the White House (when they lived there) to kill them (or wherever they are living now)
How about Jimmy Carter, Dixon, and many other USA Presidents who have been sending soldiers all over the world to kill people in order to bring "PEACE"?

You should read my last comments. :2 cents:

Smokey, what is your ethnicity?