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onwebcam · 04-23-2011, 09:07 AM

U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition groups, cables released by WikiLeaks show

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...hwD_story.html

"At least 90 people were reportedly killed and dozens were injured when Syrian security forces fired live bullets and teargas to disperse “Good Friday” protests in several cities, witnesses reported. The death toll seemed to be rising late Friday."

http://english.alarabiya.net/article...22/146329.html

Obama is doing wonders after earning that Nobel Peace prize.

VikingMan · 04-23-2011, 09:11 AM

Wikileaks is ran by the same people who are acting like they want to shut it down. LOL Wikileaks is the easiest to spot fraud in history.

Coup · 04-23-2011, 09:13 AM

What? America interfering with the affairs of another nation?

Hogwash!

Coup · 04-23-2011, 09:15 AM

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Wikileaks is ran by the same people who are acting like they want to shut it down. LOL Wikileaks is the easiest to spot fraud in history.

Perhaps that's exactly what they want you to think. think about it.

onwebcam · 04-23-2011, 09:23 AM

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Wikileaks is ran by the same people who are acting like they want to shut it down. LOL Wikileaks is the easiest to spot fraud in history.

I can't believe our faithful leaders would step to such two faced deceitful lows.

Hillary Clinton?s uncredible statement on Syria

?There?s a different leader in Syria now. Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he?s a reformer.?

--Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, on ?Face the Nation,? March 27, 2011

?I referenced opinions of others. That was not speaking either for myself or for the administration.?

--Clinton, two days later

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...EYaC_blog.html

brassmonkey · 04-23-2011, 09:23 AM

live bullets cracks me up. not all countries have equal rights. they are ruled by putting fear in their asses.

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 09:28 AM

world will be a better place when the United States as it is today falls and crumbles

Sad thing is that it's going to take all the American people with it who are some of the most honorable people in the world but sadly let themselves be misled into joining the side of evil.

Rochard · 04-23-2011, 09:39 AM

Are people really this fucking stupid to not think we've been planning this for the past, um, SIXTY YEARS? What do you think the CIA does? Take naps?

A few years ago it was "leaked" that the US had plans to attack Iran. What the general public doesn't understand is that the US has plans to attack every nation, friend or foe.

directfiesta · 04-23-2011, 09:41 AM

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live bullets cracks me up. not all countries have equal rights. they are ruled by putting fear in their asses.

not so long ago ...

TheDoc · 04-23-2011, 09:43 AM

Shocking! Kinda of.. well not really, what was this thread about again?

dyna mo · 04-23-2011, 09:48 AM

Let's see, america helps some democratically minded groups put together some television broadcasts and now we need to be eliminated from the face of the earth.

gfyers making sense.

Kiopa_Matt · 04-23-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

world will be a better place when the United States as it is today falls and crumbles

Ummm, no... although I do criticize the US quite a bit, I do like having them as the world's super power. I definitely wouldn't want to live in a world where say, China or Russia were in that role.

onwebcam · 04-23-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Are people really this fucking stupid to not think we've been planning this for the past, um, SIXTY YEARS? What do you think the CIA does? Take naps?

A few years ago it was "leaked" that the US had plans to attack Iran. What the general public doesn't understand is that the US has plans to attack every nation, friend or foe.

Are you really that fucking stupid to believe that it can't happen in your own back yard? Maybe even by your own "friend" the US government. How long do you think it will be before we see blowback? And I don't mean by CIA backed billionaire camel jockeys living in caves.

marlboroack · 04-23-2011, 10:07 AM

America is so awesome, it reminds me of the Game Halo for some reason. Man would i be mini America if i had my own country and government.

Coup · 04-23-2011, 10:14 AM

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camel jockeys

delightful racial slur you have there.

dyna mo · 04-23-2011, 10:35 AM

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How long do you think it will be before we see blowback?

what is *blowback* and how long do you think it will be until that?

onwebcam · 04-23-2011, 10:43 AM

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delightful racial slur you have there.

GFY with your politically correctness

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what is *blowback* and how long do you think it will be until that?

"Blowback is the espionage term for the violent, unintended consequences of a covert operation that are suffered by the civil population of the aggressor government. To the civilians suffering the blowback of covert operations, the effect typically manifests itself as “random” acts of political violence without a discernible, direct cause; because the public—in whose name the intelligence agency acted—are ignorant of the effected secret attacks that provoked revenge (counter-attack) against them.[1] Specifically, blowback denotes the resultant, violent consequences—reported as news fact, by domestic and international mass communications media, when the actor intelligence agency hides its responsibility via media manipulation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowbac...ntelligence%29

dyna mo · 04-23-2011, 10:48 AM

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"Blowback is the espionage term for the violent, unintended consequences of a covert operation that are suffered by the civil population of the aggressor government. To the civilians suffering the blowback of covert operations, the effect typically manifests itself as ?random? acts of political violence without a discernible, direct cause; because the public?in whose name the intelligence agency acted?are ignorant of the effected secret attacks that provoked revenge (counter-attack) against them.[1] Specifically, blowback denotes the resultant, violent consequences?reported as news fact, by domestic and international mass communications media, when the actor intelligence agency hides its responsibility via media manipulation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowbac...ntelligence%29

it seems to me that regardless of whether we help the leader, or the people, or install the leader we like or help uninstall the one we don't, arm the rebels or arm the leaders, it NEVER works out, this blowback is always the result. good intentions, bad intent, it doesn't matter, it never works out.

onwebcam · 04-23-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

it seems to me that regardless of whether we help the leader, or the people, or install the leader we like or help uninstall the one we don't, arm the rebels or arm the leaders, it NEVER works out, this blowback is always the result. good intentions, bad intent, it doesn't matter, it never works out.

I agree that it never works out which is why we shouldn't be meddling in others affairs. But where exactly are those "good intentions" that you speak of? Is it where we promote so called "democracy" by toppling governments in color revolutions via protests only to ban said protests and/or arrest or kill anyone who has any opposition to the new puppet regime afterwards?

There is never any good that comes out of it because there were never any plans for it to be good for the average person. Only good for a small group of people who wish to control the World and run it as they see fit. And all you have to do is read these people's very own writings to find that their view of a perfect World is one without you in it.

Vendot · 04-23-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup

What? America interfering with the affairs of another nation?

Hogwash!

Cant be possible, America is a beacon of peace and light........ or is that light coming from an explosion?

Anyway, UK and France is just as bad.....

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

it seems to me that regardless of whether we help the leader, or the people, or install the leader we like or help uninstall the one we don't, arm the rebels or arm the leaders, it NEVER works out, this blowback is always the result. good intentions, bad intent, it doesn't matter, it never works out.

Ummm you can just do what Libya or Syria does when the United States has citizens that aren't happy. NOTHING. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

Where did that option go? Your intentions don't matter when you're killing people or helping people be killed.

Kiopa_Matt · 04-23-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

it seems to me that regardless of whether we help the leader, or the people, or install the leader we like or help uninstall the one we don't, arm the rebels or arm the leaders, it NEVER works out, this blowback is always the result. good intentions, bad intent, it doesn't matter, it never works out.

Ohhh, it probably usually works out more than you'd believe. Just not for the American people, that's all. Corporations are probably smiling though.

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 11:34 AM

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Ummm, no... although I do criticize the US quite a bit, I do like having them as the world's super power. I definitely wouldn't want to live in a world where say, China or Russia were in that role.

I guess you're accustomed to someone controlling you - I on the other hand am not.

I'm happy with the Canadian government governing in Canada and don't want the US, China or Russia to be involved in it at all. I'm sure you feel the same about the US and Syrians and Libyans feel the same about their home countries.

onwebcam · 04-23-2011, 11:41 AM

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I guess you're accustomed to someone controlling you - I on the other hand am not.

I'm happy with the Canadian government governing in Canada and don't want the US, China or Russia to be involved in it at all. I'm sure you feel the same about the US and Syrians and Libyans feel the same about their home countries.

What do you think about the Queen of England disbanding your elected parliament 3 times in the past few years? Canada is controlled by the same people. If they don' do as the "rulers" desire they disband them and you guys go running back to the "democracy" voting booth to vote on whatever other lackies they put up there for you to vote on.

dyna mo · 04-23-2011, 12:44 PM

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Ummm you can just do what Libya or Syria does when the United States has citizens that aren't happy. NOTHING. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

Where did that option go? Your intentions don't matter when you're killing people or helping people be killed.

i don't have to tell you that's not how the world goes round, you know that. you can & do point your finger at u.s.a. all the time but the fact is this is global, shit's been blowing up over there forever, you know that.
you can't tell me more people have died in the middle east as a result of america meddling than the bullshit wars they have with each other over the history of their existence.

Coup · 04-23-2011, 01:38 PM

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Cant be possible, America is a beacon of peace and light........ or is that light coming from an explosion?

America cranks up The light of peace all the way up to Shock and Awe, motherfuckers.

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 02:13 PM

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i don't have to tell you that's not how the world goes round, you know that. you can & do point your finger at u.s.a. all the time but the fact is this is global, shit's been blowing up over there forever, you know that.
you can't tell me more people have died in the middle east as a result of america meddling than the bullshit wars they have with each other over the history of their existence.

Wait, what?

Yes, I can tell you that. And it would be the truth.

And if you're talking about the Palestine-Israel conflict and you think that the US has no part in that think again.

Taken from antiwar.com:

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From 2000-2009, the United States licensed, paid for, and delivered to Israel more than 670 million weapons and related equipment, valued at nearly $19 billion, through three main weapons transfer programs (Foreign Military Sales, Direct Commercial Sales, and Excess Defense Articles). These weapons transfer programs accounted for nearly 80 percent of the more than $24 billion in military aid appropriated to Israel during these years. The bulk of the remaining money was spent by Israel on its own domestic arms industry, a unique exemption written into law for Israel. All other countries receiving U.S. military aid are required to spend the whole sum within the United States.

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From September 2000-December 2009, roughly the same period during which the United States transferred these 670 million weapons to Israel, the Israeli military killed at least 2,969 Palestinians, of whom 1,128 were children, who took no part in hostilities, according to the Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem.

1128 children? I hope Americans can feel proud about that. How disgusting. The United States is responsible for significantly more deaths in the Middle East than everyone else in the world, combined.

wehateporn · 04-23-2011, 02:26 PM

When the globalists choose to destablize a foreign country, it's got very little to the with the president of America. He's a long long way down the power chain, it's the people behind the curtains who are the forces controlling such activities. It wouldn't matter which President or Political Party were in power; it's way above their level.

dyna mo · 04-23-2011, 02:43 PM

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wait what
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shit's been back & forth there for over 3000 years

bc = before christ.

1006 bc c. 1006-965; David becomes king of Israel and conquers Jerusalem

587 bc Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon destroys Jerusalem; Babylonian Captivity of the Jews begins

539 bc Babylonian empire conquered by Cyrus the Great of Persia

167 bc Mattahias the Hasmonian begins Maccabean Revolt against Seleucid rule in Judea

16 July 622 Muhammad forced to flee Mecca for Medina; Becomes basis for Islamic tradition of the hijra

15 August 636 Battle of Yarmuk; Islamic forces under Khalid ibn al-Walid conquer Syria and Palestine

637 Islamic armies invade Mesopotamia

638 Islamic forces capture Jerusalem

et al.

3000+ years of fighting and you think the u.s. has killed more over there in the last 50 years?

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 03:05 PM

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shit's been back & forth there for over 3000 years

bc = before christ.

1006 bc c. 1006-965; David becomes king of Israel and conquers Jerusalem

587 bc Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon destroys Jerusalem; Babylonian Captivity of the Jews begins

539 bc Babylonian empire conquered by Cyrus the Great of Persia

167 bc Mattahias the Hasmonian begins Maccabean Revolt against Seleucid rule in Judea

16 July 622 Muhammad forced to flee Mecca for Medina; Becomes basis for Islamic tradition of the hijra

15 August 636 Battle of Yarmuk; Islamic forces under Khalid ibn al-Walid conquer Syria and Palestine

637 Islamic armies invade Mesopotamia

638 Islamic forces capture Jerusalem

et al.

3000+ years of fighting and you think the u.s. has killed more over there in the last 50 years?

Look it up, how many casualties the United States has in the Middle East including the Iraq/Iran war, supplying Afghanis to fight the Russians, the allied invasion of Lebanon and Syria, the Israeli occupation of Palestine and the Gulf War. It's a lot harder to kill someone with big knives and arrows like they did for the wars you listed than it is with bombs and bullets like the United States does today.

Just today I was reading about how a reverend in Iraq said that he believes things are the worst now for Christians living in Iraq than they have ever been - and Christians have been living in Iraq for 2000 years.

dyna mo · 04-23-2011, 03:11 PM

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Look it up, how many casualties the United States has in the Middle East including the Iraq/Iran war, supplying Afghanis to fight the Russians, the allied invasion of Lebanon and Syria, the Israeli occupation of Palestine and the Gulf War. It's a lot harder to kill someone with big knives and arrows like they did for the wars you listed than it is with bombs and bullets like the United States does today.

Just today I was reading about how a reverend in Iraq said that he believes things are the worst now for Christians living in Iraq than they have ever been - and Christians have been living in Iraq for 2000 years.

u.s.a did not invent christianity nor do we have a monopoly on it.

can't put the Iraq/Iran war on us, that won't fly whatsoever.

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 03:19 PM

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u.s.a did not invent christianity nor do we have a monopoly on it.

can't put the Iraq/Iran war on us, that won't fly whatsoever.

I was just pointing out that contrary to your beliefs, things are worse now than they have EVER been.

Iraq/Iran was brought on by the US meddling in Iran, and then the US aided Iraq during the war.

Non-involvement is like what the Ukraine (for example) did in the Iraq/Iran war. NOTHING. Just like what most countries do...NOTHING.

dyna mo · 04-23-2011, 03:33 PM

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I was just pointing out that contrary to your beliefs, things are worse now than they have EVER been.

Iraq/Iran was brought on by the US meddling in Iran, and then the US aided Iraq during the war.

Non-involvement is like what the Ukraine (for example) did in the Iraq/Iran war. NOTHING. Just like what most countries do...NOTHING.

well, i can't find any figures that show war deaths over time in that region so you could be right, i could be eh. but i think my point got lost in the debate- the u.s.a. did not create the dislike amongst the groups over there.

bushwacker · 04-23-2011, 03:36 PM

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What do you think about the Queen of England disbanding your elected parliament 3 times in the past few years? Canada is controlled by the same people. If they don' do as the "rulers" desire they disband them and you guys go running back to the "democracy" voting booth to vote on whatever other lackies they put up there for you to vote on.

PWNED!!

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 03:57 PM

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What do you think about the Queen of England disbanding your elected parliament 3 times in the past few years? Canada is controlled by the same people. If they don' do as the "rulers" desire they disband them and you guys go running back to the "democracy" voting booth to vote on whatever other lackies they put up there for you to vote on.

The Governor General dissolves parliament, not the Queen. That said the Governor General's involvement is pretty much ceremonial and the real decision gets made by the Prime Minister and the Canadian people.

And you're right - we are controlled by the same people. The Canadian people control their government and if they don't do as we desire we replace them with someone else.

How many times have Americans had the balls to force their leader out when they weren't happy in the middle of a term? Once?

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 04:05 PM

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well, i can't find any figures that show war deaths over time in that region so you could be right, i could be eh. but i think my point got lost in the debate- the u.s.a. did not create the dislike amongst the groups over there.

That's true and there is obviously disagreements there but what the US does is give both sides weapons. Disagreements quickly turn into blood baths and that's what we're seeing in some places now.

onwebcam · 04-23-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

The Governor General dissolves parliament, not the Queen. That said the Governor General's involvement is pretty much ceremonial and the real decision gets made by the Prime Minister and the Canadian people.

And you're right - we are controlled by the same people. The Canadian people control their government and if they don't do as we desire we replace them with someone else.

How many times have Americans had the balls to force their leader out when they weren't happy in the middle of a term? Once?

So your parliament decides a vote of no confidence and Harper turns around and dissolves parliament and you believe that's you forcing them out and/or doing as you desire? YOu're telling me that the Canadian people are behind the actions in Lybia?

moeloubani · 04-23-2011, 04:40 PM

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So your parliament decides a vote of no confidence and Harper turns around and dissolves parliament and you believe that's you forcing them out and/or doing as you desire? YOu're telling me that the Canadian people are behind the actions in Lybia?

First of all I don't even know what Lybia is.

Second, yes that is forcing them to do what we desire. We vote and if we don't like what is happening we vote some more.

Canadians voted for the Harper government and if that's what Canadians want then what the government does in Libya is decided by the people. Personally I don't agree with it and I think Harper will find that there are lots like me who don't agree with the foreign policy of the Conservative Party but that's why in a few days I'll get to vote for who I want to be in charge.

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