Congrats to Obama for WINNING

[cherrylula]

why doesn't the embed work anymore? it turns into a white box when you use the code [ youtube ] (no spaces)... So thread not as effective but here's the link.

http://youtu.be/ZnjQ2S0pJio

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[dyna mo]

ugh, i could not believe that when i saw that on the local news. these days, when i hit my dispensary, i'm in and out. i don't hang out for a bit anymore shooting the shit.

[Tom_PM]

Holy crap, I just realised that tomorrow is 4/20. Gonna be a lot of winning.

[Vendzilla]

And yet another lie from the barry and chief
Still pissed over him making fruit flavored rolling papers illegal

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

And yet another lie from the barry and chief
Still pissed over him making fruit flavored rolling papers illegal

Yeah, as if he just "lit one up" you wouldn't be here shouting about how he
is unfit to be president because of it.



Change your nick to "Viagra", because you have a hard-on for Obama that just
won't quit.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Yeah, as if he just "lit one up" you wouldn't be here shouting about how he
is unfit to be president because of it.



Change your nick to "Viagra", because you have a hard-on for Obama that just
won't quit.

It seems you have the hard on for him by ignoring his lies and attacking me for it. I have no problem with people smoking pot, but your reading level is about 3RD grade otherwise you would know that.

Or are you defending him for saying he wouldn't go after the collectives unless they were breaking both federal and state laws and then raiding those collectives?


Wait I know, when someone calls him a liar, they are racist right?

Get a clue!

[TheDoc]

Yawn, more pathetic misdirected hate with zero research done....

They were trafficking the medical pot on the street... the STATES informed the Feds, which did the bust because it's a FEDERAL crime.

It had nothing to do with the Obama admin or anyone in his admin going out and busting medical dispensaries.

[TheDoc]

Article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ids18_ST_N.htm

Montana U.S. Attorney Michael Cotter said there was "probable cause that the premises were involved in illegal and large-scale trafficking of marijuana."

"When criminal networks violate federal laws, those involved will be prosecuted," he said.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Yawn, more pathetic misdirected hate with zero research done....

They were trafficking the medical pot on the street... the STATES informed the Feds, which did the bust because it's a FEDERAL crime.

It had nothing to do with the Obama admin or anyone in his admin going out and busting medical dispensaries.

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ids18_ST_N.htm

Montana U.S. Attorney Michael Cotter said there was "probable cause that the premises were involved in illegal and large-scale trafficking of marijuana."

"When criminal networks violate federal laws, those involved will be prosecuted," he said.

doesn't explain the l.a. raids in hollywood.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It seems you have the hard on for him by ignoring his lies and attacking me for it. I have no problem with people smoking pot, but your reading level is about 3RD grade otherwise you would know that.

Or are you defending him for saying he wouldn't go after the collectives unless they were breaking both federal and state laws and then raiding those collectives?


Wait I know, when someone calls him a liar, they are racist right?

Get a clue!

Blah blah blah;

blah blah blah.

You will simply want to die if this nigga don't die first.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ids18_ST_N.htm

Montana U.S. Attorney Michael Cotter said there was "probable cause that the premises were involved in illegal and large-scale trafficking of marijuana."

"When criminal networks violate federal laws, those involved will be prosecuted," he said.

http://westhollywood.patch.com/artic...after-dea-raid

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Blah blah blah;

blah blah blah.

You will simply want to die if this nigga don't die first.

I stand corrected, 2nd grade level reading

[fatfoo]

Loads too slowly or doesn't load.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Yawn, more pathetic misdirected hate with zero research done....

They were trafficking the medical pot on the street... the STATES informed the Feds, which did the bust because it's a FEDERAL crime.

It had nothing to do with the Obama admin or anyone in his admin going out and busting medical dispensaries.

ok ok I have a one year old and spent about three minutes posting this... appreciate any input setting straight news propaganda because I know it happens all day.

I see now that these facts are being hashed out. I do want to know the truth because it is a cause of mine and will say my vote next time if this asshole doesn't RESCHEDULE cannabis like he claimed he would, if even loosely when saying he would end the prosecutions. At least I was hopeful he would get to that but the fact is more money in the drug war.

I am having a busy day though, so that's that.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

doesn't explain the l.a. raids in hollywood.

I just remembered the article about Montana....

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

http://westhollywood.patch.com/artic...after-dea-raid

"Federal agents along with Los Angeles Police Department officers and West Hollywood sheriff?s deputies raided."

While it never says what for, it's pretty clear that something funky is going down when all them are in the same area.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I just remembered the article about Montana....




"Federal agents along with Los Angeles Police Department officers and West Hollywood sheriff?s deputies raided."

While it never says what for, it's pretty clear that something funky is going down when all them are in the same area.

no worries, just trying to make sense of it all. i was harassed at my dispensary a couple weeks ago and was ticketed outside of the premises, shop owner thinks it was a rogue cop sorta thing but who knows.....

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I just remembered the article about Montana....




"Federal agents along with Los Angeles Police Department officers and West Hollywood sheriff?s deputies raided."

While it never says what for, it's pretty clear that something funky is going down when all them are in the same area.

I think if the president says he is stopping all federal raids on collectives unless they breaking federal and state laws, someone should come out and say why the weho area is under attack.
Remembering that it's decriminalized in California by Arnold before he left office

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

ok ok I have a one year old and spent about three minutes posting this... appreciate any input setting straight news propaganda because I know it happens all day.

I see now that these facts are being hashed out. I do want to know the truth because it is a cause of mine and will say my vote next time if this asshole doesn't RESCHEDULE cannabis like he claimed he would, if even loosely when saying he would end the prosecutions. At least I was hopeful he would get to that but the fact is more money in the drug war.

I am having a busy day though, so that's that.

Does he have the power to reschedule it? I have no idea... prosecution wise I think that's related to medical pot, so far it appears good to go.

It's going to be the IRS that will end up taking out dispensaries though. They get no write off's on sales of an illegal substance, they're just all going to go belly up.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Does he have the power to reschedule it? I have no idea... prosecution wise I think that's related to medical pot, so far it appears good to go.

It's going to be the IRS that will end up taking out dispensaries though. They get no write off's on sales of an illegal substance, they're just all going to go belly up.

eh? if they run a legit accounting of the sales, then i don't see how the irs will take them out.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I think if the president says he is stopping all federal raids on collectives unless they breaking federal and state laws, someone should come out and say why the weho area is under attack.
Remembering that it's decriminalized in California by Arnold before he left office

All raids? I'm pretty sure that was related to medical pot. Just because it's a dispensaries doesn't mean it wasn't breaking State and Federal laws.

Trafficking of uncontrolled/unregistered Pot (whatever it's called) is not legal in California.


The news normally says what's up with a quote from someone, otherwise the paper will always print it - if an ongoing investigation isn't happening.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

eh? if they run a legit accounting of the sales, then i don't see how the irs will take them out.

Because they aren't allowing them to deduct the pot and many things related to it as an expense. It's in the tax code that earned income/costs, everything related from illegal-federal actions isn't an allowable tax write off or benefit of any kind.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Does he have the power to reschedule it? I have no idea... prosecution wise I think that's related to medical pot, so far it appears good to go.

It's going to be the IRS that will end up taking out dispensaries though. They get no write off's on sales of an illegal substance, they're just all going to go belly up.

I'm glad I don't have to go to a collective, next month, going to drive up to redding and visit my friends there

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

All raids? I'm pretty sure that was related to medical pot. Just because it's a dispensaries doesn't mean it wasn't breaking State and Federal laws.

Trafficking of uncontrolled/unregistered Pot (whatever it's called) is not legal in California.
.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct...juana-20101002

pretty hard to break the state law

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Because they aren't allowing them to deduct the pot and many things related to it as an expense. It's in the tax code that earned income/costs, everything related from illegal-federal actions isn't an allowable tax write off or benefit of any kind.

hmm, i had read those sorts of things were worked out years ago.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct...juana-20101002

pretty hard to break the state law

That's not really related... we aren't talking about having a little bit of personal stash, these people grow it, clearly they're doing something a bit bigger with it.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

hmm, i had read those sorts of things were worked out years ago.

http://coloradoindependent.com/79820...source=twitter

Posted Mar 18 this year...

"The IRS is thought to have begun audits on at least 12 medical marijuana dispensaries in California under the determination that past business deductions are invalid because of a clause in the federal tax code prohibiting any business that traffics in Schedule I or II drugs from making business deductions on their tax returns. The move could bankrupt every dispensary that it targets. The first dispensary to receive a final audit decision from the IRS is the Marin Alliance for Medical Marijuana (MAMM) in Fairfax, Calif."

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

hmm, i had read those sorts of things were worked out years ago.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=82344

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

http://coloradoindependent.com/79820...source=twitter

Posted Mar 18 this year...

"The IRS is thought to have begun audits on at least 12 medical marijuana dispensaries in California under the determination that past business deductions are invalid because of a clause in the federal tax code prohibiting any business that traffics in Schedule I or II drugs from making business deductions on their tax returns. The move could bankrupt every dispensary that it targets. The first dispensary to receive a final audit decision from the IRS is the Marin Alliance for Medical Marijuana (MAMM) in Fairfax, Calif."

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=82344

oh i hear ya, just not sure what the irs is doing this for (again) 2007 tax law case on this.
+ dispensaries all state you are making a donation right? they are counselors advising you on which strains to get.

i mean it's all bogus, we all know that. nevertheless, the revenues are insane and i don't see why the irs would NOT want those tax dollars.

[cherrylula]

I will add that my sister worked briefly at a dispensary in LA and applied at a few others, it was a joke. I know they are all not ran that way and they did force many to close I heard, but man oh man it was some black dude from NY running the place and he was paying underage illegal mexicans to run things... lol the stories. I know a lot of the places are still selling illegally to those who don't want to get cards, and my old bud connects back in LA none of them supported the legal way because they didn't want to lose profit... lol.

I still support my right to smoke a plant, or eat it raw even. lol

[dyna mo]

isn't the #1 cash crop in the u.s. marijuana? irs doesn't want a piece of that? hmmmmmmmm.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

I will add that my sister worked briefly at a dispensary in LA and applied at a few others, it was a joke. I know they are all not ran that way and they did force many to close I heard, but man oh man it was some black dude from NY running the place and he was paying underage illegal mexicans to run things... lol the stories. I know a lot of the places are still selling illegally to those who don't want to get cards, and my old bud connects back in LA none of them supported the legal way because they didn't want to lose profit... lol.

I still support my right to smoke a plant, or eat it raw even. lol

mostly strippers working day gigs at the ones i hit these days.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

oh i hear ya, just not sure what the irs is doing this for (again) 2007 tax law case on this.
+ dispensaries all state you are making a donation right? they are counselors advising you on which strains to get.

i mean it's all bogus, we all know that. nevertheless, the revenues are insane and i don't see why the irs would NOT want those tax dollars.

I think the're trying to make the prices go up.... this is just step 1.1

Like everything 'good' in this Country, the fed, state and local will screw it to death in taxes, just need a few more years. And if it really ends up making crazy money, I think they're just push it to the markets, buy on speculation.. then the prices will really go up.

It has the word Medical attached to it, nothing in this Country with that word attached to it stays cheap for long.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I think the're trying to make the prices go up.... this is just step 1.1

Like everything 'good' in this Country, the fed, state and local will screw it to death in taxes, just need a few more years. And if it really ends up making crazy money, I think they're just push it to the markets, buy on speculation.. then the prices will really go up.

It has the word Medical attached to it, nothing in this Country with that word attached to it stays cheap for long.

that's why i like it all as it is right this very moment. it's all skirting the law and works perfect, just need the irs to go along.