what he said was
If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it; if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor


So you're saying we have a shit turd of a law, but after time and polishing it,, we'll have a shiny turd?

because he smelled it? LMAO

Okay, that was kind of funny - but with all of the time you've spent arguing here, you could have easily watched the documentary.

Who knows... if you open your mind to alternative viewpoints, perhaps you'll learn a bit about how you're getting bamboozled.

Or maybe you won't, but at least you'll have more information to pull from for future debates.

Exactly.... if you like your healthcare plan you have, you can keep it, you wouldn't change doctors, he is correct. Like if your Corp provides insurance and keeps what they have, you have to change nothing and neither does the Corp.

If they only cover part of it and pay the fine, you still keep the part insurance you have - nothing changes. If the Company drops you or you drop the insurance company, then you have no healthcare plan and yeah, your doctors would 'always' change unless you pay for the same insurance you had - which is exactly like today.


No, you think it sucks so I'm suggesting you work to change it.. I love it, very few things I would change about it. Most changes I would make, would be more aggressive and a shit ton of regulation.

Do you think all those unions that opted out are going to keep their insurance with no changes? I doubt it, the unions will not be able to afford it
Change it by throwing it out and starting over with both parties involved

Tell me one thing, was it based on one persons point of view with facts he found to back it up?

LMAO

Other than contracted changes? Yep... 100% sure it will stay the same.

This is a Republican healthcare bill.... if you start over, you're going to get the same bill. And you will never 100% agree with every part of the bill, no mater who creates it.

I have to ask who told you it was a republican healthcare law, they voted against it, was it the democrats that told you that? Or are you saying the democrats copied the gop version? That I would buy, but the end result was it was pushed down the throats of the voters

Even if it is, needs to be scraped, even if it was a good bill it would have to be scraped, it didn't get sold to the American people as a good law

The video is not one sided, like you're thinking.... he makes some very good points with many facts throughout. And he doesn't "attack" a side, he actually sides with the people and the passion they have, ie: the Tea Party people.

What he does is show how it was started by the people then taken from the people, spun into a corporate agenda and spit back out for the people to feed on with a different message. Then he shows how/why/where it's happening, the history, connections, and all types of stuff that mostly public information.

You should watch it...

Umm... It's damn near the same bill proposed from them years before, it's damn near a copy of Massachusetts's healthcare bill, which works WITHOUT QUESTION and was created by a Republican.

Of course they voted against it.... even if it was perfect, they would have voted against it.

And bullshit, the American people loved it, screamed for it.. Then the far extreme right and media twisted it into so many lies nobody knew wtf to believe (even supporters). But now that the bullshit is starting to settle down and people are starting to see it's not bad.

You're joking right???? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Like that could ever happen.

I'll tell you this, I was for healthcare reform and after the thing Pelosi said about we'll know whats it it after we sign it, I knew we were fucked.
I also saw how they added the school reform to get the numbers to look better for the CBO. That and the lie Barry said about letting a bill pass on it's own merit, pissed off everyone!
Thats and all the spending going on and nothing to show for it that soured the healthcare bill for the public, not the evil right wing media, the democrats just made it easy

Reagan got it to happen when he worked with the democrats to raise the SSN tax

Clinton got it to happen working with the gop to reform welfare

Obama got a nobel peace prize for showing up and hasn't worked with anyone but his own party and I think some of them got strongarmed

She's a dumb cunt... not Obama. If you hate a side because of one dumb bitch, then you must hate everyone.

The school reform shit is kick ass and greatly needed. I know a shit ton of teachers and they are damn happy this is coming down, they are very pissed at the Bush system.

I'm very glad a President finally had the balls to stand up and do something for the Americans rather than pretend like they would, no part of me is mad / upset that he forced it through.

The spending was just another right wing bullshit twist, that they actually created years before and Obama corrected. And that, that didn't burnt he bill, the right wing media bullshit totally did it, without question. Every time someone speaks against it, it's almost always a bullshit talking point like the list you posted above.

That says... other times parties worked with each other, and this time one party blocked the other out - which we know without question the Republicans did being that they stated they would do exactly this, no mater what they're voting on.

it wasn't that the school reform was bad, they had to use it to show that the whole bill would save money to get it passed, with out it, it would have not passed because of the vote.

I hope the law gets defunded and the history books show what a lame president he really is.