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V_RocKs · 04-11-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

if they introduced a 'pay to own' type model it would be good, other than that cutthroat on the backs of new business

Agree...

directfiesta · 04-11-2011, 03:37 PM

This is aimed to big corporation , that prefer to account for a fixed cost ... needless to say, they will negotiate a lower monthly fee.
Then, according to their needs, licenses will be shared by new users inside that corp, as they need them ....

WiredGuy · 04-11-2011, 03:46 PM

At that price, I agree, it should be pay to own, not rent. Rent should be lower and by quite a bit.
WG

prezzz · 04-11-2011, 04:06 PM

From the US users' point of view, the price may be too steep, but international versions distributed worldwide often are nearly twice as costly as the US market versions. So for international markets this offer doesn't look quite as bad.

AmeliaG · 04-11-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

their facebook product page echos similar sentiment

That is good to hear. Maybe they will eventually take these concerns more seriously.

L-Pink · 04-11-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

All 3 lease cars I had cost less than the insurance would have been if i'd bought them.

That makes zero sense. Where can you lease a car if you aren't insured?

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ottopottomouse · 04-11-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

That makes zero sense. Where can you lease a car if you aren't insured?

.

The deal was 3 years on a brand new car with included all servicing and maintainance and insurance. All left to pay for was petrol.

Didn't have any loading on the included insurance for me being young + high mileage + business use. Insurance is compulsory here and young drivers especially get absolutely raped on pricing.

xenigo · 04-11-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

is it going to be like office how they have a cached version? so the software isnt actually on your pc, it needs online to operate

From the way it read on the site, it's the same software but with a temporary license that expires after a month.

sinclair · 04-11-2011, 05:05 PM

Kind of funny how they are moving toward a monthly subscription model and adult is moving away from it.

$5 submissions · 04-11-2011, 05:37 PM

Interesting trend

fris · 04-11-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

From the way it read on the site, it's the same software but with a temporary license that expires after a month.

still thats cheap, compared to buying creative suite master collection which is close to 3k i think.

HomerSimpson · 04-11-2011, 06:44 PM

looks like a great deal to me...

$35/month for a Photoshop is nothing...
that's great piece of software

sicone · 04-11-2011, 06:49 PM

Web based Photoshop type program for free... http://pixlr.com/editor/

Hotrocket · 04-11-2011, 08:51 PM

Intuit is now offering the same type of monthly payment "subscription" for Quick Books.

http://quickbooksonline.intuit.com/b...nting-systems/
http://quickbooks.intuit.com/pro-apps/

xenigo · 04-11-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

still thats cheap, compared to buying creative suite master collection which is close to 3k i think.

It's $195 / month for Master Collection.

harvey · 04-11-2011, 10:47 PM

hmmmm, let me see: save the money for 3/4 months and have a full PS copy or pay a monthly subscription? decisions decisions

for those that didn't get it, it's WAY overpriced. If you pay month to month for PS extended, in 6 months you pay MORE than the educational price for THE WHOLE creative suite. And even the 1-year-commit is retarded, who will be so idiotic to pay $420 for a 1 year subscription FOR PHOTOSHOP ONLY when you can get the full version, completely legal for almost the same price?

will76 · 04-12-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

thats a good idea. i know a lot of people who cant afford to shell out $500+ at once for a software license so as much as they want to use a legit copy, its to difficult at first

It's a great idea... for adobe.

If you can't afford to pay $500 for a one time purchase for software then you really can't afford $35 a month for ever. It's the people with the mentality "I can't afford $500 but I can spring an extra $35" that will bury themselves in monthly debt. If you can't scrap up or at worst save up $500 over a couple months then you can't afford to bury yourself deeper each month by increasing your monthly expenses.

This would be different if it was "financed" and lets say you had to pay $35 a month for 18 months , and then you own it. In that case, all it cost you was a little interest and you got to spread it out, but a recurring membership deal that never ends. You going to lose big time on that one and wind up paying 2,3,4,5x more in the long run.

Only exception would be to do the membership for 1 or 2 months to try out the software to make sure you like it or if it is exactly what you need or if you need it now but will have money in 1-2 months and will buy it then.

I also don't see it as any incentive to get people to not want to use boot legged copies.

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Originally Posted by harvey

hmmmm, let me see: save the money for 3/4 months and have a full PS copy or pay a monthly subscription? decisions decisions

for those that didn't get it, it's WAY overpriced. If you pay month to month for PS extended, in 6 months you pay MORE than the educational price for THE WHOLE creative suite. And even the 1-year-commit is retarded, who will be so idiotic to pay $420 for a 1 year subscription FOR PHOTOSHOP ONLY when you can get the full version, completely legal for almost the same price?

I agree, $19.95 would have been a much better price point and they could have suckered more people in to it that way and still made much more money for adobe over the long run.

will76 · 04-12-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sinclair

Kind of funny how they are moving toward a monthly subscription model and adult is moving away from it.

adult is moving away from it? news to me. Maybe customers are not falling for it and more or just not buying at all because they can get it for free, but I haven't noticed a move by program owners to stop offering it and trying to sell one time / life time access.

mynameisjim · 04-12-2011, 12:47 AM

Not sure if it's been posted, but Photoshop is $50/month. It's only $35/month if you a buy a year in advance.

v4 media · 04-12-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

no retard. $39/month = >the price of the product in one year. that makes no sense.

the full version of photoshop is $999 and more than that in Europe, so $39 isnt bad if thats the global price, I bet Euros will have to pay more though, fuckers always do that.

Theo · 04-12-2011, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pornpf69

I don't agree with that.... as you can use lots of other tools that will do exactly the same as PS that cost a lot less...

which software is freeware and equivalent to PS? Don't tell me GIMP

k0nr4d · 04-12-2011, 01:55 AM

the most absurd thing about photoshop and adobe products in general is their european pricing.
If you order from adobe.com, photoshop costs say $1000 if you pick country as USA, or 1000eur if you pick it as poland...

TheDA · 04-12-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

hmmmm, let me see: save the money for 3/4 months and have a full PS copy or pay a monthly subscription? decisions decisions

for those that didn't get it, it's WAY overpriced. If you pay month to month for PS extended, in 6 months you pay MORE than the educational price for THE WHOLE creative suite. And even the 1-year-commit is retarded, who will be so idiotic to pay $420 for a 1 year subscription FOR PHOTOSHOP ONLY when you can get the full version, completely legal for almost the same price?

Those prices you listed appear to be the upgrade editions, what does a non-upgrade, non-educational copy, run at in the US, $600-700?

In the UK you can pick it up for around £600 which is around $980.

rowan · 04-12-2011, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by prezzz

From the US users' point of view, the price may be too steep, but international versions distributed worldwide often are nearly twice as costly as the US market versions. So for international markets this offer doesn't look quite as bad.

I paid nearly $AUD1000 for CS2 (full vers, no mucking around with trying to do a dodgy so I can get student pricing), which back then was about $USD650-700...

Photoshop is overpriced because it's the defacto standard. There's nothing really that special about it.

pradaboy · 04-12-2011, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

no retard. $39/month = >the price of the product in one year. that makes no sense.

Always love it when people start name calling over absolutely nothing, shows your class.

Anyway, full version PS is $700 last I checked, so that is 2 years of $35 subscription. Plus any upgraded version is $200 extra but with the $35 subscription you get automatic updates.

ottopottomouse · 04-12-2011, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

Anyway, full version PS is $700 last I checked, so that is 2 years of $35 subscription.

Were you in Rochard's maths class?

pradaboy · 04-12-2011, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Were you in Rochard's maths class?

lol 20 months, big deal.

facialfreak · 04-12-2011, 05:02 AM

What people are not picking up on here, is it's called CLOUD COMPUTING ... You do not install photoshop on your system, nor do you get any CDs with the Photoshop software on them ...

Your $45 a month entails you to a login to the cloud ... that's it!
You will need an active broadband connection at all times while using the software - there is not working offline.

For what it is, yes $49 per month (or even $35 monthly on the annual plan) is very dear ...

Eventually all applications will move to the cloud ... The writing is already on the wall, and there are many advantages for software producers/providers. It all but eliminates software piracy (a booming multi BILLION dollar business), and it means that anybody can use applications on any architecture - be it a netbook, iPad, tablet, or smartphone - regardless of how much RAM or what speed processor you have ... the actual application runs on clusters in the cloud.

The problem with charging exorbitant fees for access to cloud applications, is that these fees add up. You need to pay $60 a month for your broadband connection, $49 for access to Photoshop, another $49 for Flash, another $29 for access to Dreamweaver, maybe $10-20 a month for your online storage locker...

If you want to be a web designer, its going to cost you $200 a month before you even turn your computer on!!

On a positive note, as physical software is weaned out, it will level the playing fields by getting rid of all the kids in mommy's basement with a cracked photoshop torrent, but I still think Adobe is missing the mark here. The profits in the recurring payment business model, is not in how much you charge per month, but how many monthly subscriptions you can sell ...

Adobe would stand to make far better money by bringing a monthly Photoshop subscription down to $9.99 per month, and turning all of the pirated version users into recurring LEGAL clients!!

TheDA · 04-12-2011, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by facialfreak

What people are not picking up on here, is it's called CLOUD COMPUTING ... You do not install photoshop on your system, nor do you get any CDs with the Photoshop software on them ...

Your $45 a month entails you to a login to the cloud ... that's it!
You will need an active broadband connection at all times while using the software - there is not working offline.

For what it is, yes $49 per month (or even $35 monthly on the annual plan) is very dear ...

Eventually all applications will move to the cloud ... The writing is already on the wall, and there are many advantages for software producers/providers. It all but eliminates software piracy (a booming multi BILLION dollar business), and it means that anybody can use applications on any architecture - be it a netbook, iPad, tablet, or smartphone - regardless of how much RAM or what speed processor you have ... the actual application runs on clusters in the cloud.

The problem with charging exorbitant fees for access to cloud applications, is that these fees add up. You need to pay $60 a month for your broadband connection, $49 for access to Photoshop, another $49 for Flash, another $29 for access to Dreamweaver, maybe $10-20 a month for your online storage locker...

If you want to be a web designer, its going to cost you $200 a month before you even turn your computer on!!

On a positive note, as physical software is weaned out, it will level the playing fields by getting rid of all the kids in mommy's basement with a cracked photoshop torrent, but I still think Adobe is missing the mark here. The profits in the recurring payment business model, is not in how much you charge per month, but how many monthly subscriptions you can sell ...

Adobe would stand to make far better money by bringing a monthly Photoshop subscription down to $9.99 per month, and turning all of the pirated version users into recurring LEGAL clients!!

No. It isn't cloud computing. You download the product and install it. You don't need an active broadband connection at all times!

facialfreak · 04-12-2011, 05:18 AM

OK ... I stand corrected, this model is not yet in the cloud, but I do know that Adobe has been working on putting their software into the cloud as a way to eliminate piracy for some time now.

I guess CS5.5 will be a crossover between the tangible goods version, and a full out cloud app.

ottopottomouse · 04-12-2011, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by facialfreak

On a positive note, as physical software is weaned out, it will level the playing fields by getting rid of all the kids in mommy's basement with a cracked photoshop torrent

I've always wondered whether the huge amount of kids with it free actually boosts the overall photoshop is best attitude as they will have learned how to use it long before needing to use it in any real business application and keeps it as the default answer to anybody that asks what software they should be using.

Agent 488 · 04-12-2011, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

I've always wondered whether the huge amount of kids with it free actually boosts the overall photoshop is best attitude as they will have learned how to use it long before needing to use it in any real business application and keeps it as the default answer to anybody that asks what software they should be using.

that is a theory, yes.

cooool · 04-12-2011, 06:24 AM

i like it

facialfreak · 04-12-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

I've always wondered whether the huge amount of kids with it free actually boosts the overall photoshop is best attitude as they will have learned how to use it long before needing to use it in any real business application and keeps it as the default answer to anybody that asks what software they should be using.

Oh I'm sure that factors into it, but as a designer, I have used Paint Shop Pro, Macromedia Fireworks, Corel Photo Magic, and even GIMP. While each one has a different learning curve, none of the other ones did quite the job that Photoshop did/does.

Don't get me wrong, many of the other offerings are very decent softwares, and some people get to be very proficient at them (Remember that Amputate Your Head used to use Fireworks in the early days of his design career ..), they still do not offer the total pixel manipulation solution that Photoshop does!

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