Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18041912)

yes, i am saying those changes spurred/contributed to the change. one of my goals over the last 15 months was to experiment with a variety of workouts and eating plans so i could find the one that works best for me. i don't want to spend a shitload of time in the gym, i don't want to always eat skinless chicken and 2 cups of vegetables every 4 hours.

so meni, on another board, let me know about a program called lean gains. it's not based on what you eat but when you eat. basically it involves fasting every day, so for 16 hours (from 9 at nite till 12-1 the next day, i do not eat anything at all. then between 1 and 8 i eat whatever i want to.

there's research that backs up the benefits of intermittent fasting in regards to not only keeping lean mass but adding lean mass as well. in addition to many other benefits of fasting, such as hormone output.

for the protocol to work, it has to be coordinated with resistance training, not much but the right stuff- compound movements 3x a week, about 2.5 hours total.


so i decided to give it a whirl and it does work for me and fits very well with my lifestyle. :)

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18042020)

Interesting, I'll have to look into it. Initially it seems to go against much of the normal rhetoric we hear of making sure you don't skip breakfast, avoiding high fat, high carb foods and eating smaller more frequent meals, but its worth checking out.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18042048)

it throws all of that out the window. i haven't had breakfast in over 5 weeks, i have had many days where i've eaten 1 meal- and that meal had 250 g protein. which is another myth IF challenges, only being able to digest 30g protein at a time. not so. frequent meals, not necc., fat is good for you. the myth that any one of the macros (fat, carbs, protein) is the cause of obesity has also been debunked imo.

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18042168)

Isn't a massive helping of protein in one go bad for your kidneys or something?

Fuck knows how you manage the fasting - there's no way I could go 16 hours without eating.

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 18042218)

i call foul!
the pic you claim is "now" has been your avatar for quite a while..

guessing the toughest part is to work off the fat around the waist area..
you never answered the guy who asked hgh or tst?