The .xxx panel is underway at The Phoenix Forum

[DWB]

So what do you do. Move on or keep shouting?

I always thought it was going to pass and am really not too worried about it. I'm frustrated at the ignorance of the industry and how blind everyone seems to be, but not worried. I don't have plans to be in porn forever so if it ends in 10 years or tomorrow, I'm ok with that. Later would be better than sooner, but it wouldn't be the end of the world for me if I woke up tomorrow and the internet was gone.

[LAJ]

Ok, I'll dumb it down for you.
I didn't speak to you or Conner because you're true hangers on in the business. You've never run a program, never done anything of any significance. The two of you wasted about a 1/2 hour with your idiot questions during the panel.

As for seeing me alone or with the same people........sure kid.


Love your newfound presence here on GFY as ynot continues to fail and it's board grinds to a halt.

LOL so sayeth the man who roofs houses for a living and has been a hanger on to Mojo for his internet career.

I've been instrumental in keeping YNOT profitable for the 11 years that I've been there. Sure don't need your approval tho. How's tuna fish bitch doin?

For the record, Connor and I ignored you.

[Connor]

Ok, I'll dumb it down for you.
I didn't speak to you or Conner because you're true hangers on in the business. You've never run a program, never done anything of any significance. The two of you wasted about a 1/2 hour with your idiot questions during the panel.

As for seeing me alone or with the same people........sure kid.


Love your newfound presence here on GFY as ynot continues to fail and it's board grinds to a halt.

Yawn.

I'm happy to go back and forth here ... more sig spots. You might want to update that 1998 banner of yours though, to get max effect here.

Since you're speaking plainly, let me. Ron you're like the old guy alone in the back of a bar leering at the college girls. Everyone wonders why he's there, but he just sticks around and creeps everyone else out.

I know you think you were once something in this business, but licking the sweat off of Fantasy Man's balls doesn't count. And even if that DID count, it's been a decade. If you had one ounce of ability, I'm guessing we'd have seen it in the way of something noteworthy. The fact that you still think YNOT is a "board" shows your age. I'm sorry to say, all you are known for is trolling GFY now.

Now run along son, and buy your little .XXX domain names. And tell Stuart that I sent you... so he knows there's no hard feelings.

[Connor]

We have no influence, no voice and no collective body to represent us. That's the way we wanted it. That's the way it is.

It certainly seems true that we had no voice in the .XXX creation decision.... but at the moment, at least, we DO have a choice whether to buy the things or not.

[Connor]

LOL so sayeth the man who roofs houses for a living and has been a hanger on to Mojo for his internet career.

Hahahaha... I'd say there's no coming back from that, but I'm guessing 12clicks isn't clever enough to stay away.

[wasteland]

Thanks for the nods, Brad, Conner, and many others. Moderating that session was probably the most challenging one in the 12 years I've been doing them.
I also have a video of the entire thing that I will post up as soon as I get back to boston. But wait! I can't get back to Boston for 2 more days as I am stranded in Phoenix waiting for Southwest to button up the "sun roofs" on ther 737-300 series that I am supposed to be on! LOL

Please send beer and chips. I am at the four points Sheraton waiting to be rebooked.

Colin

P.S. 12clicks and Conner. Please play nice. This sort of hammering is not real helpful to the dot-xxx damage control dialogue.

P.P.S. Love my one quote at the end if the XBiz article. Yes, I worked that session hard to keep it within civilized boundaries, but being a smart ass about taking a shit in times square was sort of classic "me", eh? Heehee

[wasteland]

I'm guessing CCbill used Colin because he could keep himself from being overtly hostile and CCbill was looking to create an informative panel and not a witch hunt

Ummmmm...... Ron...... Used me? LOL
I'll let that one go.

It was a rather odd timeline on this one:

1. Originally, I was slated as moderator, and Diane Duke was on the panel with Ron at CCBill, Jeffrey Douglas from FSC, and Allison Vivas, I was told that ICM (dot xxx) did not want to be on it.

2. Then, they found out Tom Hymes was coming and I offered to defer to his experience and skill as the moderator, and I would now be a panalist.CCBill said okay.

3. THEN, on the first day of the show, ICM decided they wanted to be on it, and to add Chris from Wildline to it. But, also a request to have me moderate it, take Diane off of it, and have Tom be "just a speaker" as they felt he was too biased to moderate. (like I am a Berger choice? The guy that gave testimony at ICANN in San Fran two weeks ago? Yeah. I have the skills to be neutral as a moderator, but to stick Tom on the panel and release him from any neutrality requirements, and stick Diane in the audience with a laptop to check facts and access to a microphone? May have been an odd strategy.

So, anyway, that' how it went down. Gary at CCBill handled this like a real pro and it reall was a great session that took 6 months off od my life moderating!

Colin

[Brad Mitchell]

Have that video sent to me please and I will get it up proper for the viewing audience volume.

[wasteland]

Oh, and note to self:
Typing on an iPad from a hotel on GFY sucks. There is no way to correct typos out of the little text input box, so I am sure that last post made me look lazy and such!

So, I am stranded in Phoenix still. Sheraton four points hotel as said before for at least the next day or two waiting for southwest to close the sun roofs. Beer, chips? A steak and a Ukranian midget tap dancer? Show you care! Send Colin your support to room 412 to show you care. One in 12 French fries will be forwarded to Joan at ASACP.

Colin

p.s. Thank you for stopping typing, Paul.

[12clicks]

Connor and jay,
Despite your protestations to the contrary, you're a couple of piss ants in this industry. My employees make more than you and always have.
Ynot is dead thanks to you clowns. You post here because ynot has an audience of pretend employees and that's about it.
The businessmen here think you're a joke.
Please explain once more what business you have again?
Employees are a dime a dozen and employees with big mouthes and no brains certainly don't speak for the intelligent end of our business as Greg D. Aptly pointed out on the panel

[wasteland]

Connor and jay,
Despite your protestations to the contrary, you're a couple of piss ants in this industry. My employees make more than you and always have.
Ynot is dead thanks to you clowns. You post here because ynot has an audience of pretend employees and that's about it.
The businessmen here think you're a joke.
Please this explain once more what business you have again?
Employees are a dime a dozen and employees with big mouthes and no brains certainly don't speak for the intelligent end of our business as Greg D. Aptly pointed out on the panel

Oh dear.
Ron at 12clicks did not heed my plea.
I am stepping away from this one now, but again suggest you take this offline or out of this post. It's just not appropriate here.

Colin

[12clicks]

Sorry Colin,
Your post would have held sway on page one.
You were a fantastic moderator and CCBill did an amazing job navigating the political landscape to make that seminar happen.

To portray it any other way is childish and not truthful.

[wasteland]

Sorry Colin,
Your post would have held sway on page one.
You were a fantastic moderator and CCBill did an amazing job navigating the political landscape to make that seminar happen.

To portray it any other way is childish and not truthful.

Let's just leave it at that between you and I, Ron.
I'm not a big GFY guy, so if you want to continue the conversation, give me a ring or icq.

Cheers,
Colin

[will76]

LOL so sayeth the man who roofs houses for a living and has been a hanger on to Mojo for his internet career.

I've been instrumental in keeping YNOT profitable for the 11 years that I've been there. Sure don't need your approval tho. How's tuna fish bitch doin?

For the record, Connor and I ignored you.

I heard Mojo is the reason 12Clicks has made any amount of money online, Mojo is the brains, 12clicks is just the "front man". Hell, I heard Mojo even got Ronnie started with his own roofing gig.

[LAJ]

Connor and jay,
Despite your protestations to the contrary, you're a couple of piss ants in this industry. My employees make more than you and always have.
Ynot is dead thanks to you clowns. You post here because ynot has an audience of pretend employees and that's about it.
The businessmen here think you're a joke.
Please explain once more what business you have again?
Employees are a dime a dozen and employees with big mouthes and no brains certainly don't speak for the intelligent end of our business as Greg D. Aptly pointed out on the panel

Blah de blah blah blah.

Your personal assessment of us Ron is completely irrelevant. Not worth arguing with you since I know who supports us, and I've got nothing to prove or explain to you. You have no clue how much money we make, what all of our business entities entail, nor do we feel the need to brag about it much less even talk about it.

And what employees do you speak of when you are an employee yourself? And what businessmen here do you speak of that you now have a voice for?

Ahh, so many questions, so little time and I know you'll just respond with more hollow, and unoriginal insults. But again, sadly, your relevance only exists as a troll on this forum for the most part nowadays. I'll bet that's a bitter pill to swallow and that you wish you could have those black chips back from the tables at the Venetian, eh?

I wish I could have my 30 minutes back since I gave you 29 too many here.

Anyway snowflake, thanks for helping me to rest my case.