I think Paul Markham is too old for this buisness! - GoFuckYourself.com

mizmiz · 03-27-2011, 04:00 PM

You sound depressed and beat up.
Your too old for this stuff, move on...
Its time to quit.
Go wash ur car or travel around the world.
R.I.P

damnage · 03-27-2011, 04:14 PM

What's wrong with Paul? He was very polite when I asked him a question.

Black All Through · 03-27-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by damnage

What's wrong with Paul? He was very polite when I asked him a question.

Indeed Paul is a very well prepared person, he may have some outbursts that may see odd to many, but Paul knows his business.
One of the few in the adult business that wont hold back if someone asks for help.

03-27-2011, 04:24 PM

he's too young for this industry.....IMHO...

CaptainHowdy · 03-27-2011, 04:26 PM

You tell 'em, mizmiz ...

aztecboi2003 · 03-27-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Black All Through

Indeed Paul is a very well prepared person, he may have some outbursts that may see odd to many, but Paul knows his business.
One of the few in the adult business that wont hold back if someone asks for help.

DVTimes · 03-27-2011, 04:41 PM

we love paul.

he is only 6004 years old

TheSenator · 03-27-2011, 04:46 PM

"Seek the old for wisdom and what not to do"

Jakez · 03-27-2011, 04:53 PM

Why are you worried about what that guy is doing? Focus on yourself.

Bladewire · 03-27-2011, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizmiz

You sound depressed and beat up.
Your too old for this stuff, move on...
Its time to quit.
Go wash ur car or travel around the world.
R.I.P

He's old enough not to give a shit what you think and still help others in the community who are willing to listen.

He's been like that since the beginning.

Now I must politely request that you futue te ipsum.

If you didn't understand I can restate:

gun ni ma de dan

Jebi se

Va te faire foutre

Jodete

Va' se foder

Vai por os colhoes de molho

vete ala puta verga

va chingate

TripleXPrint · 03-27-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Why are you worried about what that guy is doing? Focus on yourself.

Cosign. .

Machete_ · 03-27-2011, 06:08 PM

it's time to retire

$5 submissions · 03-27-2011, 06:58 PM

Let him do his thing. Live and let live.

DaddyHalbucks · 03-27-2011, 10:19 PM

He can't be as old as Hef.

Kiopa_Matt · 03-27-2011, 10:45 PM

I think Paul just simply mismanaged his money. I think he was making great coin before, but pissed it all away, under the pretense that cashflow would be there forever. Hey, I did the same thing before too. Fucking around, dropping $6k at a casino in one night, and not even caring because I knew I'd make that money back within a few days.

Now I'm living week-to-week, month-to-month. Fuck! If I was smart with my money back in my younger days, without question, I would be a millionaire right now. Instead, pissed it all away. I'm guessing that's the same position Paul is in right now, with the exception he's about 50 - 60 years older than me.

And now he's resentful that he didn't evolve with the times. When the internet came around, instead of evolving with it, he stuck to the traditional methods which subsequently made his bank account slowly dry up. That's why you see his constant bellowing.

Finike · 03-28-2011, 01:25 AM

It's time for a Paul M. Fan Club now!

grumpy · 03-28-2011, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizmiz

You sound depressed and beat up.
Your too old for this stuff, move on...
Its time to quit.
Go wash ur car or travel around the world.
R.I.P

you have nothing to ad, nothing to mention and nothing interesting to say so please leave. GFY

HomerSimpson · 03-28-2011, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

I think Paul just simply mismanaged his money. I think he was making great coin before, but pissed it all away, under the pretense that cashflow would be there forever. Hey, I did the same thing before too. Fucking around, dropping $6k at a casino in one night, and not even caring because I knew I'd make that money back within a few days.

Now I'm living week-to-week, month-to-month. Fuck! If I was smart with my money back in my younger days, without question, I would be a millionaire right now. Instead, pissed it all away. I'm guessing that's the same position Paul is in right now, with the exception he's about 50 - 60 years older than me.

And now he's resentful that he didn't evolve with the times. When the internet came around, instead of evolving with it, he stuck to the traditional methods which subsequently made his bank account slowly dry up. That's why you see his constant bellowing.

ouch...

CamTraffic · 03-28-2011, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

He's old enough not to give a shit what you think and still help others in the community who are willing to listen.

He's been like that since the beginning.

Now I must politely request that you futue te ipsum.

He probably could teach you one or two things...

03-28-2011, 05:20 AM

paul markham: always happy to help!

CaptainHowdy · 03-28-2011, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Black All Through

One of the few in the adult business that wont hold back if someone asks for help.

I wouldn't trust someone who is "always there for you"...

Paul Markham · 03-28-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

I think Paul just simply mismanaged his money. I think he was making great coin before, but pissed it all away, under the pretense that cashflow would be there forever. Hey, I did the same thing before too. Fucking around, dropping $6k at a casino in one night, and not even caring because I knew I'd make that money back within a few days.

Now I'm living week-to-week, month-to-month. Fuck! If I was smart with my money back in my younger days, without question, I would be a millionaire right now. Instead, pissed it all away. I'm guessing that's the same position Paul is in right now, with the exception he's about 50 - 60 years older than me.

And now he's resentful that he didn't evolve with the times. When the internet came around, instead of evolving with it, he stuck to the traditional methods which subsequently made his bank account slowly dry up. That's why you see his constant bellowing.

Wrong on every count.

We did save some of the money we made, we also saved all the content, nearly all, we made as well which is why we're still in business and many others are not. We also were able to weather two double events that would of put most of you on the breadline.

When you get to 50 and start making the money we were making you're careful with it.

We did evolve with the Internet. From 1995 I was selling to online companies. In fact what didn't we do online? I must of missed it because as a content producer I think we covered it all.

We didn't go into the paysite market 100% or even 50% because of obvious reasons.

We were in Czech producing loads of sets for magazines that were making loads of money. Also selling extremely well from the content stores. It took up most of our time. We had to do castings all around Czech to find good looking new girls, teens preferably, and then shooting them for as much as we thought they would sell.

To open a site that would of in my opinion been good, would of meant going to a country where the girls spoke English. Too many sites, IMO, are full of great looking girls on video who can't speak a word of English. No bloody good for retention because ultimately it's another girl doing the same thing. And that hurts retention.

Going back to the UK or to the US would of cost us a lot of money. And we weren't going to risk losing what we had to chase a risk. Bird in the Hand.

My unhappiness about the way the online porn business is structured started 10 years ago.

Cheap content in sites and expensive traffic thrown at it isn't the way to sell a repeat buy product. Even you're one of the 1,000s who earn your money from the 50% approx that's spent outside the paysite. Because eventually the buyers get harder to sell to, don't retain as long and now they have Tubes, don't even bother to go anywhere else.

My message has always been the same. To sell a product repeatedly it has to be good and has to be worth buying.

Tell me why that is wrong. If you can.

Time has proved me right. Because more and more people choose not to pay for porn. And very few people have a solution. I come up with ideas to improve the members area and get some money back. Truth is so much is spent on traffic few can afford my ideas.

Spending approximately 50% on giving away the product in increasing amounts and 10% on that product will lead you to where you are today. 20 million a day on one Tube site, if you believe Fabian. That's just one site and obvious the surfer doesn't want what we offering. Because it's wrong for them.

Agent 488 · 03-28-2011, 07:48 AM

don't get him started .....

edit: too late.

JFK · 03-28-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Finike

It's time for a Paul M. Fan Club now!

Agreed

Bladewire · 03-28-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Agreed

X 2

cooldude7 · 03-28-2011, 08:05 AM

we need old people in here., they have seen everything from the begining.

Paul Markham · 03-28-2011, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude7

we need old people in here., they have seen everything from the begining.

With age comes experience. Because the old made the mistakes and learned.

Your Dad says "I wouldn't do that if I was you son."

Because he did it and came a cropper.

But the young ignore the advice, tell Dad he doesn't understand and do it. Then come a cropper and try to tell their kids not to do and they do. And they learn and tell their kids ..................

And the circle goes round and round.

Barry-xlovecam · 03-28-2011, 10:17 AM

My Uncle when he got old once said, "My father got smarter the older I got."

BAKO · 03-28-2011, 10:28 AM

He was a bitter old dude when he use to run the content area on hahahahahahaha message board back in the days.

Kiopa_Matt · 03-28-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Tell me why that is wrong. If you can.

Nah, it's just... why do you care? I mean, if I was 70 years old, and had loads of cash socked away as you claim, I wouldn't give a fuck about the direction of online porn, tube sites, the quality of Manwin porn, or the GFY community whatsoever. No offense to the GFY members, and you all seem like fine folk, but you wouldn't be very high on my priority list.

I'd be out having a blast, and enjoying the freedom all my years of hard work have provided me with. Plus I'd be old, so I could have a blast being crazy, and nobody would even care. I definitely wouldn't be spending my last years worrying about the quality of porn some guy named Nathan is producing, and whether or not he's giving it away for free.

But hey, that's just me...

2MuchMark · 03-28-2011, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizmiz

You sound depressed and beat up.
Your too old for this stuff, move on...
Its time to quit.
Go wash ur car or travel around the world.
R.I.P

I would do business with Paul any day. A person with lots of experience, good or bad, and who has made lots of both good and bad decisions, is worth 1 million times more than some punk who thinks he knows it all.

mizmiz · 03-28-2011, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

With age comes experience. Because the old made the mistakes and learned.

Your Dad says "I wouldn't do that if I was you son."

Because he did it and came a cropper.

But the young ignore the advice, tell Dad he doesn't understand and do it. Then come a cropper and try to tell their kids not to do and they do. And they learn and tell their kids ..................

And the circle goes round and round.

Seriously , do u still get a boner or has to take a viagra?

Agent 488 · 03-28-2011, 04:30 PM

NaughtyVisions · 03-28-2011, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

With age comes experience. Because the old made the mistakes and learned.

Your Dad says "I wouldn't do that if I was you son."

Because he did it and came a cropper.

But the young ignore the advice, tell Dad he doesn't understand and do it. Then come a cropper and try to tell their kids not to do and they do. And they learn and tell their kids ..................

And the circle goes round and round.

mizmiz · 03-28-2011, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

I would do business with Paul any day. A person with lots of experience, good or bad, and who has made lots of both good and bad decisions, is worth 1 million times more than some punk who thinks he knows it all.

I know more then u

SleazyDream · 03-28-2011, 04:40 PM

paul's awesome

PornoStar69 · 03-28-2011, 04:50 PM

hes 137 years old....... with respect.

Vendzilla · 03-28-2011, 05:04 PM

too bad we can't see in the future to what mizmiz will be doing when he gets to above 50

Paul Markham · 03-29-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

too bad we can't see in the future to what mizmiz will be doing when he gets to above 50

It's sad to think that very few will be left in the porn industry in 5 years time.

Fiddler · 03-29-2011, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It's sad to think that very few will be left in the porn industry in 5 years time.

We'll be here

NetHorse · 03-29-2011, 03:03 AM

110 is the new 75!!!!!! Paul will be in this business for years to come.

Paul Markham · 03-29-2011, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiddler

We'll be here

But will you be working for them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse

110 is the new 75!!!!!! Paul will be in this business for years to come.

Because we didn't sell all our content outright.

The Duck · 03-29-2011, 03:39 AM

Paul is cool in my book. Being seasoned does not automatically constitute worthless, in business it is usually the opposite.

Paul Markham · 03-29-2011, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duck

Paul is cool in my book. Being seasoned does not automatically constitute worthless, in business it is usually the opposite.

You've only got to look at some of the swipes at me to see how little they know. Didn't adapt, don't shoot great content, shoot old style, didn't open a paysite early enough.

Most of them from clowns who never shot a scene in their life, never adapted except they jumped onto the traffic bandwagon and have nothing in their sig that's worth a damn.

JOP · 03-29-2011, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Nah, it's just... why do you care? I mean, if I was 70 years old, and had loads of cash socked away as you claim, I wouldn't give a fuck about the direction of online porn, tube sites, the quality of Manwin porn, or the GFY community whatsoever. No offense to the GFY members, and you all seem like fine folk, but you wouldn't be very high on my priority list.

I'd be out having a blast, and enjoying the freedom all my years of hard work have provided me with. Plus I'd be old, so I could have a blast being crazy, and nobody would even care. I definitely wouldn't be spending my last years worrying about the quality of porn some guy named Nathan is producing, and whether or not he's giving it away for free.

But hey, that's just me...

Well said. You seem to be spending the years you have left repeating the same stuff over and over again on a forum where mostly college kids hang out. Buy a house in Sarasota and go golfing or fishing if you have saved some money.

tabasco · 03-29-2011, 04:19 AM

Paul is far too modest to acknowledge but he single handily invented Magic Join Links. This alone will earn him residual income into the net millennium while you shit cunts are flipping burgers!! Show some respect for your elders FFS!!

Paul Markham · 03-29-2011, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tabasco

Paul is far too modest to acknowledge but he single handily invented Magic Join Links. This alone will earn him residual income into the net millennium while you shit cunts are flipping burgers!! Show some respect for your elders FFS!!

The magic join links were on one biller. What scared so many was the idea might take off. Giving the customer access to a site with 10 wholes scenes, fast downloads and a short membership.

It would of hurt affiliates if it took off.

They were scared customers might prefer it to a 30 day $30 recurring membership to a site of 10-20 whole scenes.

u-Bob · 03-29-2011, 04:26 AM

You're never too old to do business

DamianJ · 03-29-2011, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabasco

Paul is far too modest to acknowledge but he single handily invented Magic Join Links. This alone will earn him residual income into the net millennium while you shit cunts are flipping burgers!! Show some respect for your elders FFS!!

True dat

Magic Join Links, $5 dollar sites, limiting paying customers to 5kbps. All markham. All genius.

DamianJ · 03-29-2011, 05:37 AM

Remember, it's all about content. Not age.

03-27-2011, 04:00 PM	#1
mizmiz So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holly Place Posts: 1,168	I think Paul Markham is too old for this buisness! You sound depressed and beat up. Your too old for this stuff, move on... Its time to quit. Go wash ur car or travel around the world. R.I.P

03-27-2011, 04:14 PM	#2
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Kiopa_Matt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,448	I think Paul just simply mismanaged his money. I think he was making great coin before, but pissed it all away, under the pretense that cashflow would be there forever. Hey, I did the same thing before too. Fucking around, dropping $6k at a casino in one night, and not even caring because I knew I'd make that money back within a few days. Now I'm living week-to-week, month-to-month. Fuck! If I was smart with my money back in my younger days, without question, I would be a millionaire right now. Instead, pissed it all away. I'm guessing that's the same position Paul is in right now, with the exception he's about 50 - 60 years older than me. And now he's resentful that he didn't evolve with the times. When the internet came around, instead of evolving with it, he stuck to the traditional methods which subsequently made his bank account slowly dry up. That's why you see his constant bellowing. __________________ xMarkPro -- Ultimate Blog Network Management Streamline your marketing operations. Centralize management of domains, pages, Wordpress blogs, sponsors, link codes, media items, sales and traffic statistics, plus more!

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03-28-2011, 05:20 AM	#20
Altwebdesign Guest Posts: n/a	paul markham: always happy to help!

03-28-2011, 07:48 AM	#23
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03-29-2011, 04:19 AM	#46
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03-29-2011, 04:26 AM	#48
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03-29-2011, 05:37 AM	#50
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