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Will .XXX be the end of porn?

03-19-2011, 05:42 AM

Surly most countries will demand porn be on .xxx domains.

And then it will be a case of you having to opt in to see them or even web firms charging $$$$ to let you see .xxx sites.

This plus the new opt in for cookies this year, surly is the end of porn.

Well the pirated stuff will still be all over.

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03-19-2011, 05:44 AM

No its not. But it could change the way things work drastically

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03-19-2011, 05:48 AM

I am hoping that .xxx will cost a lot.

the main reason is if it puts people off from buying, then most will not bother and in a years time they will be as worth as much as the others that no one wants such as .mobi.

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03-19-2011, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by DVTimes

Surly most countries will demand porn be on .xxx domains.

Demand who?

At best some countries could filter millions of adult.com sites.

This is independent of whether they would allow .xxx

.xxx wil fizzle plain and simple, like all alternate TLDs.

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03-19-2011, 06:20 AM

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03-19-2011, 06:28 AM

The only way .xxx will survive is if some countries start to pass legislation requiring adult domains to be .xxx. And, we could all see that. They would argue it protects children, because it would be easy to filter .xxx sites from a child's computer. If that happens, the adult industry will definitely change drastically. It won't ever "end" because its just too much money and there's too much of a demand. But a lot of us smaller players might get pushed out.

For example, lets say some mediums such as mobile Apple products filtered out .xxx, that would be less business. To someone like Playboy, or Vivid, thats not game-changing. But for someone small who depends on that traffic, they're dead. If some ISPs try to project a "family image" and cut .xxx, same thing. Add to that the possible new difficulties in finding and competing for the best domains on just one TLD.

The group this will help the most will be pirates, as they would have less competition from the legit side, increasing the demand drastically for pirated porn. Plus, pirates would likely get through all filters as they wouldn't be on the .xxx domains.

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03-19-2011, 07:30 AM

The question will be:

1. will you buy .xxx domains?

2. Will you promote sites on .xxx domains?

We could kill .xxx domains by refusing to buy them., and not working in any way with them.

Surly google will have a .xxx filter option.

This is just too easy to filter .xxx domains.

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03-19-2011, 07:49 AM

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03-19-2011, 08:10 AM

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well, traffic coming from those countries that will block xxx probably won't convert at all so I don't care. As I am concerned I won't buy any of those domains. Hope everyone will ignore it but if we have so much tubes, I doubt that webmasters are aware of what they are doing.

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03-19-2011, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by femdomdestiny

well, traffic coming from those countries that will block xxx probably won't convert at all so I don't care. As I am concerned I won't buy any of those domains. Hope everyone will ignore it but if we have so much tubes, I doubt that webmasters are aware of what they are doing.

I'm not as worried about countries as I am about companies and ISPs here in the US. I could see someone like Comcast jumping to be the first "family ISP". Don't underestimate how big of a hit that would be with Conservatives. They may be the biggest consumer of porn, but they are also the biggest opponent to its existence.
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03-19-2011, 08:42 AM

well, that's sounds logical. So what do you guys suggest? I think that only way is to ignore them before someone try to make them obligatory.

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03-19-2011, 09:08 AM

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03-19-2011, 09:10 AM

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03-19-2011, 09:12 AM

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well, that's sounds logical. So what do you guys suggest? I think that only way is to ignore them before someone try to make them obligatory.

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03-19-2011, 09:12 AM

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03-19-2011, 09:14 AM

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03-19-2011, 09:15 AM

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03-19-2011, 09:27 AM

i think we need to 100% agree that we should not ever buy them.

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03-19-2011, 09:29 AM

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03-19-2011, 09:37 AM

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03-19-2011, 09:39 AM

the whole idea is funny really. is there going to be some kind of 'porn police' making sure no one uses other tld's for porn? ha, they would have to hire an army just to keep up and automated programs wouldn't work either. you would end up banning/deleting sex ed sites, aids awareness, ect ,etc. don't buy into the fear people..

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03-19-2011, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by DVTimes

i think we need to 100% agree that we should not ever buy them.

A lot of people are going to jump on that bandwagon, like they do all new things. I seriously doubt the consumers will follow though.
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03-19-2011, 09:43 AM

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the whole idea is funny really. is there going to be some kind of 'porn police' making sure no one uses other tld's for porn? ha, they would have to hire an army just to keep up and automated programs wouldn't work either. you would end up banning/deleting sex ed sites, aids awareness, ect ,etc. don't buy into the fear people..

Why would they need "porn police"? If they passed a law, it would just be "THE police". After the first few big raids, you would see 70%+ of the sites change on their own, then you would have far fewer to deal with. In the end, the only ones left will be those who are in countries that don't respect US/UK law, and piracy will run rampant. A lot of people see this more as a civil thing, but the US could easily tack this on with all child porn laws like 2257, and have this as a more solid way to measure compliance. Then the FBI would enforce it.

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03-19-2011, 09:45 AM

so what happens here? do you lose your other tlds? are you given/moved to xxx counterpart or can someone snatch it from you?
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03-19-2011, 09:46 AM

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You can take my .com when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

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This is fucking ridiculous. These gov's want to try and censure porn? NO. they want to find a way to make more money on it... the domains will be more, statues and policies will be made, licenses will be sold and violators will be prosecuted... don't these fucks know that if it wasn't for porn the internet wouldn't exist or at best be anywhere near where it is today? And arent these the same fucks that sit and watch porn themselves? I dont know maybe the 15 billion a year spent on porn is all from the 3 midgets in a basement banging viagra intravenously... rofl The truth is everyone wants to trash porn but only because they dont want to admit they themselves watch it.... I own a sextoy shop online with 19K products... yo - people order some weird ass shit and not just punk goth kids with a daddy complex... these are lawyers and doctors, everyday people... the same people that are crying about porn are taking 7 and 3/4 ribbed-rubber plugs up their ass and gargglin peanut butter from some twisted snort-whore with scabbies willin to shit in your mouth for a price... Yo you wouldnt believe some of the reviews and stories Ive had submitted to my site... but I guarantee these people will stand for the fight against the evil porn business... fuck them.

The problem is that industry leaders need to get together and start fighting back at this type of shit... what, the government is going to take my .com from me? get fucked. Seriously what needs to happen is everyone get together, go to a rock in the middle of the pacific where the people of an inhabited 3rd world country are poor, invest into it and create a place where we can all run our business without the fear of this type of shit. I mean why not? offshore banking has done really well.... why not offshore our operations and tell these people to Go Fuck Yourself!
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03-19-2011, 09:47 AM

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Why would they need "porn police"? If they passed a law, it would just be "THE police". After the first few big raids, you would see 70%+ of the sites change on their own, then you would have far fewer to deal with. In the end, the only ones left will be those who are in countries that don't respect US/UK law, and piracy will run rampant.

ha, yeah right. so they're gonna bust into johnny average tgp guys home and tell him he needs to switch to .xxx or be arrested? shit, you are lucky if cops show up when you call them and tell them you've been robbed.

they can't stop CP but they'll stop that? give me a fucking break man!

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03-19-2011, 09:52 AM

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so what happens here? do you lose your other tlds? are you given/moved to xxx counterpart or can someone snatch it from you?

As far as I know, it will be just like any other tld. It will go to the big players first, who have the money to get the best names, then it will be a free-for-all with squatters grabbing up everything they can. Then, the legit guys who actually run porn sites will have to fight for whatever is leftover. I won't be buying anything unless it becomes mandatory, because I don't see consumers switching to .xxx. I see absolutely no benefit to my consumers, and no benefit to any of my porn domains to have a .xxx over a .com.
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03-19-2011, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

ha, yeah right. so they're gonna bust into johnny average tgp guys home and tell him he needs to switch to .xxx or be arrested? shit, you are lucky if cops show up when you call them and tell them you've been robbed.

they can't stop CP but they'll stop that? give me a fucking break man!

Umm, this happens. They bust into people's home and seize all their computers, raid their host, shut down their sites because of failing to comply with 2257. No, they won't stop CP, and yeah it takes 5 hours to get to your house after reporting a crime, but if you aren't complying with porn law and they want to make an example, they will be at your house, work, host, girlfriend's house, and have 50 agents show up at the movie theater to make a big ass scene when they arrest you.
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03-19-2011, 09:55 AM

from a seo standpoint i wouldn't touch xxx with charlie sheen's cock.

you would have to be an idiot to see they wont be some kind of filter on them, or the potential to easily do so at some point.
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03-19-2011, 10:20 AM

Dead in the water!

It's either full compliance ALL ADULT.COM move to ADULT.XXX
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Worst case scenerio is 2020AD+ being GIVEN your .XXX for your .COM and the whole DNS system / Browser Upgrade redirects automatically and transparently in a single shift across to make a global filter system.

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03-19-2011, 10:28 AM

must suck to blow a ton of cash on camgirls.com then get camgirls.xxx snatched away from you.
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03-19-2011, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

the whole idea is funny really. is there going to be some kind of 'porn police' making sure no one uses other tld's for porn? ha, they would have to hire an army just to keep up and automated programs wouldn't work either. you would end up banning/deleting sex ed sites, aids awareness, ect ,etc. don't buy into the fear people..

No need for an army - only a handful of payment processors dominate the adult industry. Without payment processing, no business.

It's likely payment processors will likely take the lead and require adult sites to operate completely within .XXX.

Already, payment processors dictate numerous things that adult sites must abide by, including naming conventions, such as forbidding various words / phrases in domains and metatags.

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03-19-2011, 10:54 AM

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We could kill .xxx domains by refusing to buy them., and not working in any way with them.

yeah because that has worked so well in the past for stolen content, spyware, banging cards, etc...

"we could kill" lol the adult industry could never do anything that involved the majority of the people working together. Too many AFF's and Manwin's out there. they don't care about any thing else but their bottom line and unfortunately they have too much of the control/market. You living in lala land if you think its even possible to do this.

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03-19-2011, 10:55 AM

umm who's going to be in charge of what's porn and whats not? are they going force all Adult Processors to make sure adult sites are on .xxx before verifying them? If I have pics of chicks in bikinis is that porn? what about .net .org .co .info and the hundreds of other tlds that have porn on them. it's going to be like .info and .co ... they orginally wanted companies on co and infomation crap on .info ... no one cared. .com will always be the #1 tld. they need to make a .spam to help out spammers more
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03-19-2011, 10:56 AM

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must suck to blow a ton of cash on camgirls.com then get camgirls.xxx snatched away from you.

im going to get budsbabes.xxx

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03-19-2011, 12:16 PM

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No its not. But it could change the way things work drastically

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03-19-2011, 12:20 PM

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im going to get budsbabes.xxx

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03-19-2011, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Agent 488

from a seo standpoint i wouldn't touch xxx with charlie sheen's cock.

you would have to be an idiot to see they wont be some kind of filter on them, or the potential to easily do so at some point.

Very smart observation - the xxx will be blocked by certain countries who already have attempted to do so on the dot coms. This move I believe is only a gesture for those in politics who want to tell those christian voters - "look we took steps to protect everyone from the evil porn empire". Enforcing it will be a nightmare and it will be immediately limited by governments showing they are attempting to protect people.

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03-19-2011, 12:42 PM

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I will ignore them absolutely and even won't trade links with such domains. If everyone do same, they are doomed.

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03-19-2011, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Agent 488

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03-19-2011, 01:56 PM

Right now i vote "no". But who knows what will happen later. We all live in a very weird world.

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03-19-2011, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Ron Bennett

No need for an army - only a handful of payment processors dominate the adult industry. Without payment processing, no business.

It's likely payment processors will likely take the lead and require adult sites to operate completely within .XXX.

Already, payment processors dictate numerous things that adult sites must abide by, including naming conventions, such as forbidding various words / phrases in domains and metatags.

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03-19-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Shankz

I'm not as worried about countries as I am about companies and ISPs here in the US. I could see someone like Comcast jumping to be the first "family ISP". Don't underestimate how big of a hit that would be with Conservatives. They may be the biggest consumer of porn, but they are also the biggest opponent to its existence.

and they'll lose business. bad enough they cap then they'll ban .xxx? Also they'll be sued.
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03-19-2011, 03:29 PM

.XXX is a joke, just like all those other ridiculous TLDs.

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03-19-2011, 04:05 PM

Nope, it will be just the begging, more gTLDs to come .porn .tits .gay .whateveryouaregoingtopayfor .

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03-19-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by Davy

.XXX is a joke, just like all those other ridiculous TLDs.

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03-19-2011, 08:45 PM

internet is free and open nobody cant/wont control it.

if we choose not to buy .xxx then someone else will buy it and if google gives priority too them then we are screwed.

there wont be any limitations on promoting porn other than .xxx
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03-19-2011, 09:03 PM

A group of us should petition for a .adu extension just to compete with (and further dilute) this .xxx bullshit. We can state that "the industry" prefers .adu, and go from there.
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03-19-2011, 09:27 PM

.XXX is useless.
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03-19-2011, 10:18 PM

If they do eventually force all porn sites to be on the .xxx extension, can you imagine some of the domain names were going to have? super-sex-porn-site-link-list-crap-page.xxx will be an awesome domain.

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