If someone wanted to start a phone sex business.... - GoFuckYourself.com

Yngwie · 08-02-2010, 07:05 PM

Who would be the best and easiest to use for credit card billing? A friend of mine is curious about this so I figured that I would ask here. Any info would be helpful.

Yngwie · 08-02-2010, 07:25 PM

bump before I go to bed.

BigDeanEvans · 08-02-2010, 07:33 PM

You're about 25 yrs late on that one..good luck

Deej · 08-02-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

You're about 25 yrs late on that one..good luck

Youre absolutely wrong.

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Credit Card billing is a must. You can use other methods of course but you are missing out on the majority of your potential payments without it.

It is high risk of course so there are exaggerated fees to incur when setting up.

epitome · 08-02-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

You're about 25 yrs late on that one..good luck

Perhaps late to make a mint, but based on the fact that late TV is still full of commercials for phone sex, people are still turning a profit.

Smokieflame · 08-02-2010, 07:46 PM

In the 90s and early 2000s Don Laprie had the phone sex biz on lock down. You may remember his late night infomercial for his Making Money with Ads program. Since he went belly up in 01 I am sure it left a large gag in this biz so being 25 years to late is a bit wrong. There are a few really good billing companies out there for this type of billing (sadly i dont know there names but easily searchable) But like Deej said this is a HIGH risk biz for chargebacks, even more so then Porn. And charging by the minute can ad up in some huge chargebacks so the fees involved are very HIGH.

BigDeanEvans · 08-02-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Youre absolutely wrong.

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Credit Card billing is a must. You can use other methods of course but you are missing out on the majority of your potential payments without it.

It is high risk of course so there are exaggerated fees to incur when setting up.

is phone sex the new gold rush?

Deej · 08-02-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

is phone sex the new gold rush?

gold rush? Depends on how you market it. Its nowhere near 25 years too late to start a PS biz.

Agent 488 · 08-02-2010, 08:22 PM

i don`t think don lapre was in the phone sex biz.

Axzar · 08-02-2010, 09:59 PM

Apply at my sig.. Phone sex is no problem. Our current phone sex clients consistently do very well.

jerryb · 08-03-2010, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

is phone sex the new gold rush?

It always has been ... and ... is presently HOT!!!

Yngwie · 08-03-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame

In the 90s and early 2000s Don Laprie had the phone sex biz on lock down. You may remember his late night infomercial for his Making Money with Ads program. Since he went belly up in 01 I am sure it left a large gag in this biz so being 25 years to late is a bit wrong. There are a few really good billing companies out there for this type of billing (sadly i dont know there names but easily searchable) But like Deej said this is a HIGH risk biz for chargebacks, even more so then Porn. And charging by the minute can ad up in some huge chargebacks so the fees involved are very HIGH.

You mean Don Lapre? The "I made millions place smalls ads" guy. haha. He wasn't in the phone sex business. ;) I know that this is a high risk business, but it's still profitable if ran properly.

Yngwie · 08-03-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

You mean Don Lapre? The "I made millions place smalls ads" guy. haha. He wasn't in the phone sex business. ;) I know that this is a high risk business, but it's still profitable if ran properly.

placing not place. haha

kristin · 08-03-2010, 08:57 AM

Let me guess, your "friend" is you and your lady, isn't it?!? ; )

Yngwie · 08-03-2010, 09:11 AM

You're partly right.. I have nothing to do with it, but my girlfriend would be the "friend". I'm just trying to get her as much info as possible.

Deej · 08-03-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

You're partly right.. I have nothing to do with it, but my girlfriend would be the "friend". I'm just trying to get her as much info as possible.

Well its pretty hard to be successful as a solo phone sex operator and might not be worth it as a solo enterprise when dealing with merchant accounts and what not. If she is interested in working for an already setup company thats been going for years, have her hit me up and Ill connect her with my girls

Yngwie · 08-03-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Well its pretty hard to be successful as a solo phone sex operator and might not be worth it as a solo enterprise when dealing with merchant accounts and what not. If she is interested in working for an already setup company thats been going for years, have her hit me up and Ill connect her with my girls

Oh I know it will not be an easy thing, but this is something she really wants so I'm trying to get her as much info as possible. She's been working for a company for a couple years. At first as a pso then later both pso and dispatcher. She's been talking about starting her own thing for years, but at this point she's much more serious about doing this. She doesn't expect it to make her a fortune and I make sure to tell her things that won't over inflate her expectations.

Either way, I just want to get as much useful info as possible and even though I won't actually be involved with the actual phone sex part I will still do whatever I can to help her.

Which company is it that you're talking about?

Yngwie · 08-03-2010, 12:46 PM

Another bump.

Yngwie · 08-03-2010, 07:57 PM

Heading to bed, but wanted to bump my thread.

Deej · 08-03-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

Oh I know it will not be an easy thing, but this is something she really wants so I'm trying to get her as much info as possible. She's been working for a company for a couple years. At first as a pso then later both pso and dispatcher. She's been talking about starting her own thing for years, but at this point she's much more serious about doing this. She doesn't expect it to make her a fortune and I make sure to tell her things that won't over inflate her expectations.

Either way, I just want to get as much useful info as possible and even though I won't actually be involved with the actual phone sex part I will still do whatever I can to help her.

Which company is it that you're talking about?

I was going to ask you the same question about whose shes been working with

Frasier · 08-04-2010, 03:08 AM

I know several phone sex girls who make well over 5k monthly. There is plenty of money in this niche

Yngwie · 08-04-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

I was going to ask you the same question about whose shes been working with

Well, they don't have a website or anything, but from what I remember seeing on her pay stubs it said JJL Inc. I think. Either way, she doesn't really like that place.

Sabby · 08-04-2010, 08:12 AM

Niteflirt and Talksugar...

I make about $2k/month between the 2... lately...

I used to do $1k/day on nf...

Sabby

xmas13 · 08-04-2010, 08:21 AM

Tell her to go to college

Sabby · 08-04-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby

Niteflirt and Talksugar...

I make about $2k/month between the 2... lately...

I used to do $1k/day on nf...

Sabby

Im not the top girl on there anymore though... Ive spread out... I dont trust anyone enough to be exclusive.

Sabby

SilkySnatch · 08-04-2010, 08:28 AM

Niteflirt is good for the solo girl.. I have done phonesex through Niteflirt for 5 years averaging around $62,000 a year after I pay taxes... I also worked for a really good company for 2 years, tons of whales..

Sabby · 08-04-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SilkySnatch

Niteflirt is good for the solo girl.. I have done phonesex through Niteflirt for 5 years averaging around $62,000 a year after I pay taxes... I also worked for a really good company for 2 years, tons of whales..

You should have alot of tax writeoffs working from home... (my accountant just found something i didnt claim in 10 years worth about $10k.. I could go back... but its alot of paperwork and have rev can up my ass.. lol... I just survived an audit).

Sabby

Sabby · 08-04-2010, 08:59 AM

Niteflirt is awesome though... they had some issues breaking away from keen but I think they are coming back. If only they would launch a new affil program...

Sabby

Deej · 08-04-2010, 10:26 AM

Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

Sabby · 08-04-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

I still get some worthwhile calls and video sales

Sabby

Yngwie · 08-04-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

My girlfriend tried niteflirt and it didn't make her much at all.

SilkySnatch · 08-04-2010, 01:08 PM

With niteflirt you make your money off of your regulars.. I have about 15-20 guys who call everyday to once or twice a week, you are sort of doing the GFE thing over the phone with them..

@Sabby, with taxes I use a tax preparer that specializes in adult performers, she is pretty good http://www.taxdomme.com/

I worked for LDW for a few years, really good company she has a lot of "elite" clientele

Yngwie · 08-04-2010, 04:41 PM

Ok, with all the replies in this thread there has only been one post mentioning anything having to do with processing. There has to be more that do this type of processing.

MikeSmoke · 08-05-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

That's exactly right. They made some VERY stupid decisions during the whole keen separation and from what I understand, they've never recovered.

Yngwie · 08-05-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

That's exactly right. They made some VERY stupid decisions during the whole keen separation and from what I understand, they've never recovered.

Plus there are way to many girls on NF for a new one to actually make anything noticeable.

Sabby · 08-05-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

Plus there are way to many girls on NF for a new one to actually make anything noticeable.

You used to be able to pay to feature your listings... so that would make it easier for a new girl to get started. Now you must rely on your click/conversion ratio to keep you on top. I have a mailing list of about 3000 I could/should be working that more.

I dont like to put all my eggs in one basket anymore... but you can only ever be the best at something if u focus yourself on that one thing...

Sabby

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TrashyGirl · 08-06-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

You mean Don Lapre? The "I made millions place smalls ads" guy. haha. He wasn't in the phone sex business. ;) I know that this is a high risk business, but it's still profitable if ran properly.

I'm vaguely remembering he was promoting a 1-900 phone sex line along with the sports bets tips line, scoop line, psychic line?

BucksGuru · 08-06-2010, 02:37 PM

i think phone sex business its so bad idea for this time

Yngwie · 08-06-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BucksGuru

i think phone sex business its so bad idea for this time

I don't think that any business idea is bad. It's all on how you run it. Some people would start something like this and expect huge returns quickly which is why many would fail. Sure, the economy sucks, many people are jobless, but there is still money to be made. It will require more work, but it can be profitable.

Yngwie · 08-07-2010, 11:49 PM

Another bump for more info.

TrashyGirl · 08-08-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

Ok, with all the replies in this thread there has only been one post mentioning anything having to do with processing. There has to be more that do this type of processing.

For adult biz including phonesex, MP3, membership site fees or cam, Zombaio processses, they're in your sig.

CCBill processes, but if you want Visa and not just MC and Disc (plus JCB for int'l), you have to pay $750 annual Visa fee. Zombaio absorbs that fee for you.

There's also a processor who is promoting to audiotext providers - connectcollect.com - $397 set up fee and at least $49 p/m fee per month, all 4 major cc's. But I'm not sure they're using an adult merchant account because Amex began getting out of the adult "intangibles" like audiotext, so I think connectcollect might be using the "middleman model". Caller uploads money to connectcollect and then connectcollect pays the provider of the service. Not saying it's shady, just seems to be the way they do it.

Yngwie · 08-10-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashyGirl

For adult biz including phonesex, MP3, membership site fees or cam, Zombaio processses, they're in your sig.

CCBill processes, but if you want Visa and not just MC and Disc (plus JCB for int'l), you have to pay $750 annual Visa fee. Zombaio absorbs that fee for you.

There's also a processor who is promoting to audiotext providers - connectcollect.com - $397 set up fee and at least $49 p/m fee per month, all 4 major cc's. But I'm not sure they're using an adult merchant account because Amex began getting out of the adult "intangibles" like audiotext, so I think connectcollect might be using the "middleman model". Caller uploads money to connectcollect and then connectcollect pays the provider of the service. Not saying it's shady, just seems to be the way they do it.

Zombaio does not process for what's needed in this case.

Yngwie · 08-17-2010, 10:37 PM

I need more info... if you don't want to post the info in here you can ICQ me: 16544251 or email me at [email protected]

Serial Pervert · 08-18-2010, 06:23 AM

does it still exist?

emjay · 03-11-2011, 01:31 AM

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08-02-2010, 07:05 PM	#1
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	If someone wanted to start a phone sex business.... Who would be the best and easiest to use for credit card billing? A friend of mine is curious about this so I figured that I would ask here. Any info would be helpful. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

08-02-2010, 07:25 PM	#2
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08-02-2010, 07:46 PM	#6
Smokieflame Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 596	In the 90s and early 2000s Don Laprie had the phone sex biz on lock down. You may remember his late night infomercial for his Making Money with Ads program. Since he went belly up in 01 I am sure it left a large gag in this biz so being 25 years to late is a bit wrong. There are a few really good billing companies out there for this type of billing (sadly i dont know there names but easily searchable) But like Deej said this is a HIGH risk biz for chargebacks, even more so then Porn. And charging by the minute can ad up in some huge chargebacks so the fees involved are very HIGH. __________________ Sig too big https://gfy.com/the-round-table/950962-rules-live.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT AVN DOT com

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Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	You're partly right.. I have nothing to do with it, but my girlfriend would be the "friend". I'm just trying to get her as much info as possible. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	Ok, with all the replies in this thread there has only been one post mentioning anything having to do with processing. There has to be more that do this type of processing. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I need more info... if you don't want to post the info in here you can ICQ me: 16544251 or email me at [email protected] __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca Last edited by Yngwie; 08-17-2010 at 10:43 PM..

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